A sound problem one more time.- THE SOLUTION AT LAST (PLEASE NOTE)
Phil Clyde
pclyde at usa-american.net
Sun Feb 17 18:22:43 UTC 2008
When I get this kind of problems....I load VLC and or TVtime
they will load the needed libraries correctly if no major kernel changes
vlc.org (FRANCE) or freshrpms.net
Phil
Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Friday 15 February 2008 20:32, Mark C. Allman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday 15 February 2008 02:35, Mark C. Allman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 22:13 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 14 February 2008 18:01, Mark C. Allman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 22:43 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday 13 February 2008 21:34, Frank Chiulli wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nigel,
>>>>>>>> I have a Sound Blaster Live! Value. This is an older machine.
>>>>>>>> F8 detected the card automatically. Unfortunately I can't tell
>>>>>>>> you exactly when I got the error. I had tried lots of things
>>>>>>>> to get sound to work but never did. It wasn't a big deal.
>>>>>>>> Then I was looking at something else when I was the error. I
>>>>>>>> figured that I would take a look at it. It seems like an easy
>>>>>>>> fix. It seems pretty obvious to me what was wrong. So I
>>>>>>>> corrected it. Then sound worked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply Frank. I was hoping that you would say that
>>>>>>> your card was also an isa one, and would tie it in with Aarons
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's nice to see that both of you have resolved the problem, but
>>>>>>> what's going on to cause these problems is beyond me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you see from what I posted above, my audigy2 soundblaster was
>>>>>>> detected ok, and apart from disabling pulseaudio by removing
>>>>>>> alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, and adding the usual lines to
>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.conf for my usb midi keyboard that uses
>>>>>>> snd-usb-audio, the sounds are working ok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, the fact that both you and Aaron now have sounds is the
>>>>>>> main thing. Quite why you've both had problems, and me none, I've
>>>>>>> no idea. That's computers for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nigel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Mark says:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I run the "alsa-info.sh" script I see an error message when it
>>>>>> tries to collect the data that says something like "no soundcard
>>>>>> found." I think it's the same error that I see when I run aplay to
>>>>>> list out cards:
>>>>>> [mcallman at prez tmp]$ aplay -l
>>>>>> aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, when I look at the script results, I see the following at
>>>>>> about line 65 (this is after I tried "model=toshiba" in
>>>>>> modprobe.conf even though my laptop is a Dell XPS 1710):
>>>>>> Loaded sound module option
>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>> Module: snd_hda_intel
>>>>>> enable : N
>>>>>> id : <NULL>
>>>>>> index : 0
>>>>>> model : toshiba
>>>>>> position_fix : 0
>>>>>> power_save : 0
>>>>>> power_save_controller : Y
>>>>>> probe_mask : -1
>>>>>> single_cmd : N
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could the "enable: N" line be the key here? For those of you that
>>>>>> have sound working, what do you see listed for "enable?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it helps, you can look at all the test results that the script
>>>>>> uploaded at:
>>>>>> http://pastebin.ca/903970
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Mark C. Allman, PMP
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark. I've sort of lost the plot a bit, but do you have your sound
>>>>> working now?
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask because the Alsa development folks are working hard on
>>>>> resolving problems, particularly with the hda intel cards. Alsa
>>>>> driver 1.0.16 has just been released, and I see many patches being
>>>>> applied to the hda intel codecs, including your STAC9200 one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nigel.
>>>>>
>>>> Sound works using:
>>>> Pidgin
>>>> VLC (playing Rush/Tom Sawyer right now)
>>>> RealAudio
>>>>
>>>> It does not work for:
>>>> gnome-cd (won't start a track)
>>>> grip (starts reading tracks, but no sound)
>>>> aplay/arecord ("no soundcard found")
>>>> Flash in Firefox
>>>> system-config-soundcard (everything's there--just no sound!!)
>>>>
>>>> I can pipe a ".au" file (if I remember the extension correctly)
>>>> to /dev/audio and I hear it.
>>>>
>>>> Some "/proc/asound" stuff:
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/
>>>> card0 cards devices hwdep Intel modules oss pcm seq timers version
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/cards
>>>> 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
>>>> HDA Intel at 0xdfffc000 irq 21
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/card0
>>>> codec#0 codec#1 id oss_mixer pcm0c pcm0p pcm1p
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/pcm
>>>> 00-01: STAC92xx Digital : STAC92xx Digital : playback 1
>>>> 00-00: STAC92xx Analog : STAC92xx Analog : playback 1 : capture 1
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/modules
>>>> 0 snd_hda_intel
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/devices
>>>> 2: : timer
>>>> 3: : sequencer
>>>> 4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
>>>> 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
>>>> 6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
>>>> 7: [ 0- 1]: hardware dependent
>>>> 8: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent
>>>> 9: [ 0] : control
>>>> [mcallman at prez X11]$ ls -ld /proc/asound/Intel
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2008-02-14 20:18 /proc/asound/Intel ->
>>>> card0
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions would be welcome. If any of the Alsa development folks
>>>> would like a test bed to try out ideas just let me know.
>>>>
>>>> -- Mark C. Allman
>>>>
>>> Hi Mark. I know I've got pulseaudio on the brain, as I had problems with
>>> it, and disabled it, but have you got the default install of F8, where
>>> pulseaudio is enabled? I ask because of the sound apps that you have
>>> working. Realplayer uses OSS, VLC uses natively OSS, or Alsa, and also
>>> Gnomes ESD. Not sure about Pidgin (Gaim), but I believe it uses OSS for
>>> it's sounds. Puzzling why Alsa apps won't work.
>>>
>>> If you havn't messed with pulseaudio since installing F8, I think I'd do
>>> a: yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
>>>
>>> having done that I'd see if now aplay, audio cd's, etc work.
>>>
>>> Enough for now.
>>>
>>> Nigel.
>>>
>> The only PulseAudio package I have installed is
>> pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8. It's needed for
>> libflashsupport-000-0.1.svn20070904.
>>
>
> Hi Marc. Sorry for the delay in replying. I spent a while today going back
> through the alsa-devel archives, and the only reference to the Dell XPS 1710,
> was one for the Dell XPS M1710w (which may well be the same machine), and was
> to do with a problem with the subwoofer not working with the alsa 1.0.14
> driver, and on a Suse install. See below for the thread.
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-August/subject.html
>
> I'll contact the guy directly, after you've replied to this post, to see if he
> had any problems with getting sound working on his machine. I'd like to
> clarify some things with you first though.
>
> First, and I hate to say the word, but pulseaudio. I know you have removed
> most of the pulseaudio packages, but would you confirm that the
> "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio" package is no longer installed. Yumex should show
> if it's installed, or rpm -q alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.
>
> Secondly, and just out of interest, do you have access to alsamixer on the
> command line?
>
> Thirdly. You have model options for snd-hda-intel set as model=toshiba. From
> the ALSA-configuration.txt file, that's in the alsa driver tarball, I see the
> following model options, including one for the Dell XPS M1710
> (model=dell-m23). It's worth trying that one, as it seems pretty specific.
> See below for the full list of options. (It's for the 1.0.15 alsa driver)
>
> STAC9200
> ref Reference board
> dell-d21 Dell (unknown)
> dell-d22 Dell (unknown)
> dell-d23 Dell (unknown)
> dell-m21 Dell Inspiron 630m, Dell Inspiron 640m
> dell-m22 Dell Latitude D620, Dell Latitude D820
> dell-m23 Dell XPS M1710, Dell Precision M90
> dell-m24 Dell Latitude 120L
> dell-m25 Dell Inspiron E1505n
> dell-m26 Dell Inspiron 1501
> dell-m27 Dell Inspiron E1705/9400
> gateway Gateway laptops with EAPD control
>
>> The OSS packages I have installed:
>> alsa-oss-libs-1.0.14-3.fc8
>> nss_compat_ossl-0.9.2-3.fc8
>> alsa-oss-1.0.14-3.fc8
>> alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.15-2.fc8
>>
>>
>> -- Mark C. Allman
>>
>
> Over to you, and all the best.
>
> Nigel.
>
>
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