Advice for Red Hat/Fedora

[max bianco]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 13:44 -0500, max bianco wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Gene Heskett
> > <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:
> >         On Wednesday 20 February 2008, Phil Meyer wrote:
> >         >Gene Heskett wrote:
> >         >> Greetings folks;
> >         >>
> >         >> As a staunch believer in Open Source in the form of linux,
> >         I've always
> >         >> wondered just where M$ would attack linux, and it appears
> >         they have found
> >         >> an ally and a willing vehicle in Novel, who I am told now
> >         owns gnome.
> >         >>
> >         >> I'll let the data in this link speak for itself.
> >         >>
> >         >>
> >         <
> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/15/mono-contamination-in-ubuntu/>
> >         >
> >         >...
> >         >
> >         >Might I recommend http://groklaw.net where these issues have
> >         been
> >         >researched as closely as humanly possible.
> >
> >
> >         I follow Pamela.
> >
> >         >MS is a real threat to the FOSS community, make no mistake.
> >          However,
> >         >most of their FUD campaigns fail under scrutiny.
> >         >
> >         >The single biggest threat to FOSS are software patents.  It
> >         is
> >         >unknowable who will pull the trigger first.  It might well be
> >         MS, but it
> >         >could be IBM or any number of patent trolls.
> >         >
> >         >If you want to really stretch the ability of your tinfoil
> >         hat, just
> >         >consider:
> >         >
> >         >1. IBM has the largest patent portfolio in the world.
> >         >2. MS has submited as many as 3,000 patent applications a
> >         year for the
> >         >last several years.
> >         >3. IBM has sold off all corporate assets that had contractual
> >         >obligations to MS.
> >         >
> >         >Can you even imagine what would happen if IBM and MS were to
> >         declare
> >         >open war over software patents?
> >
> >
> >         Both of which have deeeeep pockets, and could sue each other
> >         for decades which
> >         would in the end only enrichen the lawyers.  No profit in
> >         that.
> >
> >         I've Been Moved is currently on our side, apparently having
> >         seen the
> >         handwriting on the wall several years ago.  But M$ most
> >         certainly isn't, and
> >         I can't think of any better a way than to sign don't sue
> >         agreements with one
> >         of the more prolific contributors to FOSS in general, and sit
> >         back and wait
> >         till their contributions contain enough patented stuff to
> >         throw a real 36"
> >         monkey wrench in the gears by suing the rest of the linux
> >         folks out of
> >         existence because those deeeeep pockets aren't there.
> > ,
> >
> > We will know M$ is desperate when they start canvasing neighborhoods
> > to see who's running linux.  As for Novell, well they either screwed
> > themselves or did everyone a big favor( i think they just wanted the
> > infusion of capital). Microsoft has yet to reveal these supposed
> > patent violations, i think any court in the land would say that it is
> > reasonable to list the patents so that the situation can be rectified
> > but so far they have refused. I believe they are full of shit and they
> > won't list the violations either because: 1)there aren't any,
> > 2)someone they can't get to sign one of these ludicrous agreements(ie
> > REDHAT) has a bigger gun ( in some form or another), 3)they could
> > potentially have to open their code to prove it( which may show how
> > many patents they are violating, while also showing the world a
> > crapload of new vulnerabilities
> > to exploit), 4) any patent violations would be easily rectified or
> > shown to be obvious.
> > M$ doesn't even have the balls to attack linux directly anymore, they
> > hide behind proxies I'd say they are losing their nerve over in
> > Redmond. In the end only one thing is sure, its gonna interesting.
> On the other hand M$ anounced today it would rellease 3,000 pages of its
> Vista and Office code to the public.
> >
>

Only the parts that have been around since windows 95 i'll wager.
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