Advice for Red Hat/Fedora

[Henning Larsen]

On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 18:25 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Frode Petersen <fropeter at online.no> wrote:
> > Henning Larsen skrev:
> >
> > > Is there any initiative from anyone to get rid of these problems. I
> >  > don't want gnome, I don't want KDE, but I want krename and nautilus.
> >  >
> >  > Could those and other programs get freed from KDE/Gnome?
> >  >
> >  > I thought Linux is about openness not lockin like it is now.
> >  >
> >  > Henning Larsen
> >  >
> >
> >  Some years ago there actually was an initiative launched, intended to
> >  come up with an environment-neutral target for development, so that
> >  programs written towards that target would run on the gui on the user's
> >  computer without the need to pull inn things from the other one. It
> >  still exists:
> >
> >  http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/
> >
> >  I don't remember how long ago it started up, but I perceive it as being
> >  quite a few years ago. I believe it was either FSF (Free Software
> >  Foundation) or OSDL (Open Source Development Labs) that started it.
> >  (They are now merged into The Linux Foundation).
> >
> >  Considering the original intent if the project, and all the years that
> >  have passed since it's inception, I don't think that their achievements
> >  have been remarkable. I guess KDE and Gnome proved to be too fast moving
> >  targets to keep up on two fronts.
> >
> >  I really wish they had succeeded!
> 
> Why?
> 
because it would be nice to install one package if we want one program,
and remove one package to get rid of that program.

I think you understand that argument.

Henning