Java Solution

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 15:26 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Karl Larsen wrote:
> > 
> > >>> 2. Next the small wimpy java 1.51 which is of no
> > use to a serious 
> > >>> java user should not be made available to the
> > user.Instead there 
> > >>> should be dummy /usr/java/default/bin/java file
> > which will print out 
> > >>> "Java not installed" if you press java in a
> > Terminal. There needs to 
> > >>> be a link between /etc/alternatives/java to
> > /usr/java/default/bin/java.
> > >>
> > >> Most "Serious java users" ie corporations are
> > using either 1.4 (as we 
> > >> are at work) or 1.5, so stop speaking of
> > something you know nothing 
> > >> about. Hardly anyone is using 1.6 commercially
> > yet. And they're the 
> > >> people who are "serious users", not people trying
> > to run applets in 
> > >> their browsers...
> > >>
> > >    Why lie about what I KNOW? I tried to install
> > jedit with the 1.5 on 
> > > F8 and it just spit out error messages. Then I bit
> > the bullet and 
> > > installed what Sun Inc said is right and jedit
> > works SUPER.
> > > 
> > > That is fact not you GUESS.
> > 
> > You are comparing 1.5 apples to 1.6 oranges.  The
> > 1.5 you tried was not 
> > Sun java, and jedit probably works just fine with
> > Sun Java 1.5 as well 
> > as the 1.6 you installed.
> > 
> Know Les, 1.5 apples (one and a half apples)
> 1.6 oranges (one and six tenths of oranges)
> What do apples and oranges have to do with java?
> 
> Jun from Sun cannot even be compatible with itself. 
> See article below.  Fedora is working with Sun on
> these and other issues.  Please be patient :).  
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the 1.5 that Karl (and thus Les by extension) was the gcj version that
is bundled by Fedora and it's cloudy if not completely disconnected from
the Sun 1.5.x releases and obviously the Sun 1.6 releases. That's what
Les meant by Apples and Oranges (GCJ Java and Sun Java)

The fact remains that Karl is one confused puppy and Les stretches to
make a point that Karl's confusion represents the greater confusion as a
whole which is absurd because Karl represents wrongfulness and confusion
across the board, not just wrt java

I am quite certain that 5 days ago, I suggested that Les be patient but
that hasn't stopped him from trying to score ethereal points, and most
ashamedly, using Karl as proof of how problematic the situation is.

Craig