java again really

[Karl Larsen]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>> Why should you use Jpackage?/What is Jpackage?
>>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/flozano/archive/2005/12/if_you_use_linu.html 
>>>
>>>
>
>>    Hi and thank you. Well it didn't go into detail but it appears the 
>> Jpackage is a rpm made from the Sun Inc. package. But it somehow 
>> looses it's ownership by Sun Inc. I guess this is a tricky thing to do.
>
> The jpackage site never actually redistributed the Sun jvm because 
> that used to be prohibited although you could download your own copy 
> directly.
>
>>    Looking at F8 there is a rpm for F8 that includes the current 
>> built-in Java. For some reason there is a need for iced-tea. This is 
>> not part of that writing.
>>
>> But it does not seem to work as well as installing the jre from the 
>> Sun web site and say yes to their demands :-)
>
> Jpackage had two different options for this install for the linux 
> versions they supported.  One way was for you to download the Sun 
> non-RPM binary and then run their script which would package it into 
> an RPM package, adjusting the install location and adding the symlinks 
> to work the way the alternatives system expects and setting it up as 
> the default.
    Hi Les, this method sounds like what I would like to see Fedora 
start to use. You can get the latest tar ball of java and then add the 
commands to install it where you want with the sim links included. Then 
it is installed with rpm -i filename.rpm :-)

    I will get a current tarball and see what I can do. But I am not a 
rpm builder. But could learn I guess. The question is do you modify the 
tarball?



> This method gives you an RPM that you can use for a single-step 
> install on additional systems.  The other choice was for you to 
> download and install the Sun RPM package that installs under 
> /usr/java/, then install the matching jpackage java-sun-compat-xxx RPM 
> that sets up the alternatives system with symlinks to the 
> Sun-installed location.  The jpackage portion (either way) also 
> supplies the jvm/jdk requirement that is needed to install the many 
> java applications available from the jpackage repository.  But this is 
> all ancient history since fedora is no longer interested in 
> collaborating and has not supplied a matching replacement.
>
    It needs to be explored with Sun Inc. about what they can accept. To 
just build a Fedora rpm would be bad. They invented the java language 
and are still giving away the needed support software today. I will try 
and send an email to Sun that makes sense.
   
Karl

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