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Re: Google Earth



Antonio M wrote:
2008/1/11, Lamar Owen <lowen pari edu>:
On Thursday 10 January 2008, Karl Larsen wrote:
    It sounds to me since it does the same thing on F7 and F8 that there
might be a problem with google-earth. It might be that it is designed to
work in the ubuntu operating system.
I'm running Google Earth right now on my F8 system.  I didn't have to do
anything special.  The system is a Dell Inspiron 640m laptop with Intel
graphics, and Google Earth 'Just Worked' with no extra drivers required.

On my desktop F8 system, the only difference is that I have an nVidia card (so
that SecondLife will work; we are doing some educational development in SL);
in order to get GoogleEarth to work, I installed the livna nvidia driver, and
it just works.

The livna RPM of the nVidia driver IS THE NVIDIA DRIVER THAT NVIDIA
DISTRIBUTES; it's just packaged properly for Fedora, and just works (at least
on my hardware).  If you use the raw nVidia driver file you will have
problems due to the GL library problem already mentioned; the nVidia raw
driver simply doesn't respect the existing ownership of some files, and,
since it was installed to allow the RPM database to know about that, the next
time that portion of you system is updated the nVidia files will be
overwritten (which will crash the nVidia driver).  And, if the nVidia
installer doesn't register those overwritten files with the RPM database,
just exactly how does RPM know to not overwrite when that portion is updated?
This is nVidia's fault for not working with the installed system's package
manager; it's not Fedora's fault.

The livna crew have made the nVidia distributed binary drivers 'Fedora-fied'
(for lack of a better word) and the system then works correctly.

Again, the livna nVidia drivers ARE the nVidia written and distributed
drivers, just with the packaging change to allow the nVidia driver to
peacefully coexist with the rest of the system.

This is one reason that, if at all possible, I try to always use properly RPM
packaged programs rather than try to build from source (there is one major
exception to this rule for me, and that is Plone, since the Plone versioning
is pretty critical, and upgrades aren't necessarily smooth; plus, Zope and
Python 2.5 are not friends yet; in the Plone case I use the plone.org unified
installer, which installs all needed dependencies in a separate tree).  If i
install a package that overwrites an RPM-managed file, then I can EXPECT an
upgrade to the package that, according to the RPM database, owns that file,
to cause system breakage.  This  is basic system administration stuff.
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 and after latest (this morning) Xorg updates my GoogleEarth didn't
work any longer: I am waiting that Firefox will allow me to download
again GE and re-install (not sure which version is on my PC...) to
see.
Any way, I think that the problem is connected to drivers and not to GE.
I am using nv driver, now I have same problem, user is immediately
loggesd out as soon as it starts GE...

Here is my situation now. I have got my F8 working with the Nvidia tarball but did notice since you mentioned it, that it takes liberties with gtk. I was happy that the Google Earth is now working fine on this new fully updated F8 and my older F7.

I would like to try the re-packaged rpm files from Fedora. How do you start the update system so it works with every new kernel? I think someone said you have to go to freshrpms wherever that is :-)

It would be nice if this was written down in the Installation Guide. That where you discover you need Nvidia.


Karl


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