Google Earth

[Karl Larsen]

Antonio M wrote:
> 2008/1/11, Lamar Owen <lowen at pari.edu>:
>   
>> On Thursday 10 January 2008, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>     
>>>     It sounds to me since it does the same thing on F7 and F8 that there
>>> might be a problem with google-earth. It might be that it is designed to
>>> work in the ubuntu operating system.
>>>       
>> I'm running Google Earth right now on my F8 system.  I didn't have to do
>> anything special.  The system is a Dell Inspiron 640m laptop with Intel
>> graphics, and Google Earth 'Just Worked' with no extra drivers required.
>>
>> On my desktop F8 system, the only difference is that I have an nVidia card (so
>> that SecondLife will work; we are doing some educational development in SL);
>> in order to get GoogleEarth to work, I installed the livna nvidia driver, and
>> it just works.
>>
>> The livna RPM of the nVidia driver IS THE NVIDIA DRIVER THAT NVIDIA
>> DISTRIBUTES; it's just packaged properly for Fedora, and just works (at least
>> on my hardware).  If you use the raw nVidia driver file you will have
>> problems due to the GL library problem already mentioned; the nVidia raw
>> driver simply doesn't respect the existing ownership of some files, and,
>> since it was installed to allow the RPM database to know about that, the next
>> time that portion of you system is updated the nVidia files will be
>> overwritten (which will crash the nVidia driver).  And, if the nVidia
>> installer doesn't register those overwritten files with the RPM database,
>> just exactly how does RPM know to not overwrite when that portion is updated?
>> This is nVidia's fault for not working with the installed system's package
>> manager; it's not Fedora's fault.
>>
>> The livna crew have made the nVidia distributed binary drivers 'Fedora-fied'
>> (for lack of a better word) and the system then works correctly.
>>
>> Again, the livna nVidia drivers ARE the nVidia written and distributed
>> drivers, just with the packaging change to allow the nVidia driver to
>> peacefully coexist with the rest of the system.
>>
>> This is one reason that, if at all possible, I try to always use properly RPM
>> packaged programs rather than try to build from source (there is one major
>> exception to this rule for me, and that is Plone, since the Plone versioning
>> is pretty critical, and upgrades aren't necessarily smooth; plus, Zope and
>> Python 2.5 are not friends yet; in the Plone case I use the plone.org unified
>> installer, which installs all needed dependencies in a separate tree).  If i
>> install a package that overwrites an RPM-managed file, then I can EXPECT an
>> upgrade to the package that, according to the RPM database, owns that file,
>> to cause system breakage.  This  is basic system administration stuff.
>> --
>> Lamar Owen
>> www.pari.edu
>>
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>>     
>  and after latest (this morning) Xorg updates my GoogleEarth didn't
> work any longer: I am waiting that Firefox will allow me to download
> again GE and re-install (not sure which version is on my PC...) to
> see.
> Any way, I think that the problem is connected to drivers and not to GE.
> I am using nv driver, now I have same problem, user is immediately
> loggesd out as soon as it starts GE...
>
>   
    Here is my situation now. I have got my F8 working with the Nvidia 
tarball but did notice since you mentioned it, that it takes liberties 
with gtk. I was happy that the Google Earth is now working fine on this 
new fully updated F8 and my older F7.

    I would like to try the re-packaged rpm files from Fedora. How do 
you start the update system so it works with every new kernel? I think 
someone said you have to go to freshrpms wherever that is :-)

    It would be nice if this was written down in the Installation Guide. 
That where you discover you need Nvidia.


Karl


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