Good bye

[Todd Denniston]

Les Mikesell wrote, On 01/31/2008 09:56 AM:
> Ian Malone wrote:
> 
>>> I'd like to see something resembling truth-in-advertising on the
>>> project site about
>> [...]
>>
>> "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in
>> free and open source software."
> 
> I know enough about software development to know what that means, but I 
> wouldn't expect an average potential new user to interpret that as 
> "we'll ship a lot of broken stuff and pretend it's a feature".  

Actually I think it's more of a "hey for those of us who tested rawhide, this 
stuff was working (or at least not reported as such), red hat would like those 
of you who are adventuresome to let them know if some small portion of this is 
ready for a truly stable release of RHEL, and if it breaks we'll try to fix it 
quick."

> And 
> there is nothing about the hostility to outside software.
> 

I don't think it is so much hostility as ambivalence.  As you can see[1] I am 
one of those who has ideas and attitudes that conflict with fedora stated 
policy. I understand their policy, I just don't like it, and _I_ can work 
around the issue for _now_.  And if I wanted something that was rock solid, 
unchanging, approved for use in ultra secure environments, with an enterprise 
support plan, lacking in packages and out of date for the hardware I have to 
work with, I would use an RHEL. The reason we have different distro's out 
there is because we all have different trade offs we have to make. [must _try_ 
debian/ubuntu and see if they will integrate something that works NOW with 
smart cards for ssh and encrypted file systems, even if they have a _long_ 
term plan of using something else to do the same thing.]

Oh and notice the ambivalence in the first part of my reply? RH and I differ 
on the statement 'fedora is RHEL beta'. :)

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=186469

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Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter