that old GNU/Linux argument

max bianco maximilianbianco at
Tue Jul 15 16:09:17 UTC 2008

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Joe Klemmer <klemmerj at> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:25 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> If you take *GNU* libc, rebuild it to target a different kernel while
>> exporting the same ABI, and voila, you can drop Linux entirely from
>> what you call a Linux Operating System, and pretty much all
>> applications will still work just the same.  Because they're not
>> applications for Linux.  They're applications for GNU libc.  They
>> couldn't care less that they're running on top of the kernel Linux.
>> For them, the kernel is irrelevant.
>        This sounds like you're making the argument that all beer
> should be called Water/Beer because water isn't specific to beer and
> can be used with/in any other beverage.  Water couldn't care less that
> it's mixing with hops or wheat.  For water, the other ingredients are
> irrelevant.
>        You seem to be making a good case that the GNU parts are
> ubiquitous and therefor there's no reason to explicitly state their
> inclusion.
>> Next frequently raised fallacious objections?
>        Well, this has been fun.  My need for mindless ranting...
> Uh, I mean "debate" as been filled.  Back to what's loosely known
> as productivity.
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Its amazing to me that with all these brains nobody likes to discuss
strategies and solutions, just a bunch of endless nitpicking and
finger pointing. Its no wonder Microsoft dominates the desktop
computer market.

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