install woes, SUCCESS!

whoosh whoosh777 at blueyonder.co.uk
Wed Jul 30 15:59:52 UTC 2008


On 30-Jul-08 15:35:08 Nigel Henry wrote:
>On Wednesday 30 July 2008 17:09, whoosh wrote:
>> thanks for the info,
>>
>>
>> looking at the Fedora 9  64bit DVD:
>>
>> the first option is:
>>
>>
>> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img
>>
>> I  tried
>>
>> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img noapic nolapic
>>
>> but that also  was frozen up.
>>
>>
>> the second option is
>>
>> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text
>>
>> I tried instead:
>>
>> vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text noapic nolapic
>>
>> that is also frozen up at the:
>>
>> "disc found   To begin testing the media ...." screen.
>>
>> can you suggest any other boot commands to try?

>I'd try the acpi=off, but I didn't need any boot options, as far as I
remember


I tried that just now and the test media screen now responds!

vmlinuz initrd=initrd.img text acpi=off




>to get Fedora 8, or 9 to boot, although as I said, I do see that I have 
>appended the kernel, probably post-install. Mind you that's a different 
>machine, different hardware to yours.

>Although you have FC3 installed with no problems, I would still look in your 
>BIOS, and see if there is an option to disable acpi, and if so, disable it, 
>as, as I mentioned, I couldn't boot anything with acpi enabled on this mobo 
>of mine.

the only ACPI option is:

ACPI Suspend Type 

with value either "S1(POS)" or "S3(STR)"

anyway the problem is now resolved,




>Nigel.
>>
>> On 30-Jul-08 14:25:41 Nigel Henry wrote:
>> >On Wednesday 30 July 2008 11:29, whoosh wrote:
>> >> first I downloaded the Fedora Core 9 64 DVD iso, took many hours,
>> >>
>> >> but on attempting to install, it freezes up at the test media screen.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I then downloaded all the FC9 64 CD isos, tried the first one and
>> >> it freezes up at the test media screen.
>> >>
>> >> I tried submitting a report on the University of Kent form, but that
>> >> failed!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I then tried the FC9 64 net install CD and it freezes up on the
>> >> choose language screen.
>> >>
>> >> The PC is an AMD Sempron 64 tower, from probably 2006. I thought
>> >> maybe there are bugs in the early AMD64 CPUs.
>> >>
>> >> so I tried the FC9 32 net install iso, freezes up on the "Choose a
>> >> language"
>> >>
>> >> screen. That suggests it isnt a 64 bit bug.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I tried Ubuntu 64, 8.04.1 that freezes up once the desktop appears.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> when I say freeze up I mean no response to keyboard (or mouse for
>> >> Ubuntu).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I installed FC3 some years ago without problem, and I use FC3 and
>> >> Windows XP
>> >>
>> >> all the time without problem.
>> >
>> >This may not be of much help, but I recently built a new machine with an
>> > Asus
>> >
>> >M2N-X Plus mobo (sktAM2), and an AMD64 3800+ CPU. Nothing at all would
>> > boot on it, install discs, or live cd's, (keyboard, mouse, whole machine
>> > locked up), until I disabled acpi in the BIOS, so that may be worth a
>> > try.
>> >
>> >I still had a bunch of problems installing some distros. Kubuntu Gutsy
>> > Gibbon
>> >
>> >7.10 (live cd, with option to install on desktop once booted) booted, and
>> > got
>> >
>> >as far as startx, but locked up before showing the KDM splash screen.
>> >
>> >Fedora 8 installed ok, but I had problems booting post install, and had to
>> > do
>> >
>> >an interactive startup, as it was hanging at starting some services
>> >(ip6tables, and cpu frequency scaling), which I then said (NO) to during
>> > the interactive startup. It looks like I may have had problems also, when
>> > it got booted as far as startx, with locking up prior to displaying GDM
>> > login screen, as I see that I've appended the kernel line in
>> > /boot/grub/menu.lst with noapic nolapic
>> >
>> >Then I tried installing Kubuntu Breezy, which is perhaps a similar age to
>>
>> your
>>
>> >FC3, and that installed ok, using the kernel 2.6.12-9-386. Upgraded Breezy
>> > to
>> >
>> >Dapper, as I had the updates lying about on another disk, which gave me a
>> > new
>> >
>> >kernel 2.6.15-52-386. Rebooted into the new kernel, and it got as far as
>> >displaying KDM to login, but again everything was locked up. Well I knew
>> > that
>> >
>> >it booted ok with the original kernel, so tried it just to very that
>> > Dapper would work ok with the older kernel, and no problems. Not sure if
>> > I tried appending the new kernel with noapic nolapic, but if I did it
>> > didn't work, as
>> >
>> >I ended up booting into runlevel 1, tried startx, and the KDE desktop
>> > opened with no probs. So I thought I'd boot into runlevel 3, login, and
>> > try startx as user. Appended the kernel line with a 3 in grub, booted,
>> > and no runlevel 3, but now the new kernel (2.6.15) has no problems, KDM
>> > opens, and I login with no probs. Thats a bit weird, I know, but seems to
>> > indicate perhaps, that
>> >
>> >it might be a kernel related problem, all these freeze ups, as no prob
>> > with 2.6.12, but probs with 2.6.15, and later.
>> >
>> >Sorry for this very long post, but persevere please.
>> >
>> >Now back to Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10. I tried alsorts to try and stop it
>> >locking up when starting X. noapic, nolapic, acpi=off, noapic nolapic
>> >(together), ll to no avail. The kernel line to boot the live cd also had a
>> >bit "forcevesa" or something like that. I thought that should have been
>> > ok. The pci-E graphics card is ati, but usually vesa works ok if ati
>> > won't, but I
>> >
>> >did notice that the the monitors menu showed a resolution of 1640 x
>> >something, and my monitor uses 1024 x 768, so maybe the lockups were due
>> > to the monitor/graphics card being totally out of range, when trying to
>> > use either the vesa or ati driver with booting the live cd.
>> >
>> >I removed the forcevesa bit from the kernel line, and appended it with
>> >acpi=off, and booted, it got as far as starting x, tried to start it a
>> > couple
>> >
>> >of times, then dropped me back into text mode. Can't remember if I
>> > directly edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, to change the max res to 1024 x 768,
>> > or if I ran dpkg --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but either way, once
>> > done a startx
>>
>> got
>>
>> >me the login screen, and I got the live cd's desktop. Clicked on the icon
>> > to install to harddrive, and that went ok, but I still have to append the
>> > kernel
>> >
>> >line in /boot/grub/menu.lst with acpi=off, otherwise the machine locks up
>> >when starting x.
>> >
>> >Apologies for the long post again, but there may something here that will
>> > you
>> >
>> >a few pointers.
>> >
>> >As I said though, nothing would boot at all, until I disabled acpi in the
>> >BIOS.
>> >
>> >Btw, the processor is 64 bit, but all my installed distros are 32 bit
>> > (i386).
>> >
>> >I also tried the 1st cd for Fedora 9 to see if there were any boot
>> > problems, but as a few days have passed now, and have just finished
>> > dl'ing disk 6 (on dialup), I can't remember any specific bootup problems
>> > for Fedora 9, apart from acpi needing to be disabled in the BIOS.
>> >
>> >All the best.
>> >
>> >Nigel.
>> >
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