Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
Thu Jul 17 19:33:43 UTC 2008
Rick Stevens wrote:
>
>> The history is really much more complex than this. Wikipedia has a
>> nice graphic of how the open/commercial parts developed at
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix. But basically since the
>> government-regulated monopoly (AT&T) that did the initial work could
>> not sell it directly, they licensed it for research purposes to
>> universities where the original BSD additions were components that had
>> to be installed on top of the AT&T code.
>
> I've known Wikipedia stuff to be wrong and part of this is. In the old
> days, you couldn't call it "Unix" unless you had a source code license
> from Bell Labs (not AT&T). I know, I was involved in the negotiations
> our company had with BL to get System V source. They wanted, IIRC, $50K
> in 1982. We said "too much, guys."
>
> You could, however, get a license for BSD for a LOT less ($5k, I think),
> and that's what a LOT of people did (including Sun, DEC, IBM, Data
> General, Silicon Graphics and others too many to name).
This doesn't make much sense until the completion of the standalone BSD
that I thought happened a lot later. Originally you had to have an AT&T
license to run the BSD additions. And at these prices it's pretty easy
to see why everyone was running Windows a few years later - I still
blame AT&T for that.
> Many companies DID use SVR4.2 as the base for later versions of their
> OSes. Sun's Solaris (SunOS 5.x) is SVR4.2-based, whereas the original
> SunOS (SunOS 4.x) was BSD-based. They renamed it Solaris to
> differentiate it from the BSD-based earlier OS. DG's later versions of
> their DG/UX was SVR4.2-based. The first PC-esque SVR4.2 I used was on a
> (blast from the past) Amiga 2000 (Motorola 68020), followed by "E-NIX"
> (from Everex Computers) on actual i386 hardware.
>
> DEC got so pissed off at the Unix title owner that they went to OSF/1
> (Mach-based) for the Alpha products (eventually called "Tru64") and
> dropped BSD and SVR4.2 completely.
Sensible pricing could have changed everything. Dell had one of the
least expensive versions of SysVr4 that was still around $1k per box and
it was one of the few that would adapt to generic SCSI drives instead of
being limited to the vendor's set compiled into the kernel (like AT&T's
own retail version). It mysteriously disappeared right when Windows95
came out. Of course after the court revelations about Microsoft's
anti-competitive practices, it wasn't so mysterious.
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Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
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