Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
Sun Jul 20 20:04:53 UTC 2008
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>
>> If I add some bsd code into a gpl'd work, could I then distribute the
>> resulting binary and only the previously gpl'd code?
>
> No, you have to provide the whole with the permissions and the
> conditions set forth in the GPL, which the modified BSD license
> permits you to do.
>
>> Instead, I believe it becomes encumbered with the gpl restrictions -
>> and could not be used otherwise.
>
> When part of the whole, yes.
Which was and is exactly my point. The GPL must cover the work as a
whole and thus is only compatible with licenses that permit their own
terms to be replaced with those of the GPL.
> When took in isolation, it's still under
> the modified BSD license,
Nothing can be taken in isolation when it is part of work containing any
GPL-covered content because of that work-as-a-whole restriction.
>> No, I understand that restrictions are not freedom.
>
> So, let's see, just because you're prohibited from using software for
> stealing money from others' bank accounts, and you could decide to
> change any piece of software to do just that, then no software
> whatsoever can be free, because it's under a restriction?
That's not, and shouldn't be, a restriction applied to the software itself.
> Just because you're prohibited from removing the copyright notice and
> the license from code under one of the various permissive licenses,
> it's not free, because it's under a restriction?
If there was some use that this requirement prevented, then I'd say it
would make the code not free - but I can't think of any such use and
thus consider it free.
> You seem to have a very odd understanding of what freedom is about.
> You appear to disregard the fact that one's freedom doesn't invade
> someone else's freedom.
How so? There are specific regulations for that, none of which involve
combining software components that you otherwise have the right to use
and redistribute.
> If you were the only person in the universe,
> and you could change physical laws to suit your wishes, then you might
> be able to equate freedom to 'no restrictions'. Once others enter the
> picture, what you claim as freedom, if claimed by the others, would
> turn into power usable against you: threats to *your* actual
> *freedom*. I don't think that's an outcome you'd be interested in,
> and you wouldn't be so selfish as to wanting that kind of power only
> to you, so there's some inconsistency in your stance.
None of which has anything to do with the outcomes that we can observe
for less restricted software - the original TCP/IP code being a fine
example. I want more of that kind of outcome and I don't understand why
anyone would want it to have been prevented.
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Les Mikesell
lesmikesel at gmail.com
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