Ldap, Pam, Nss, Samba

[Ric Moore]

On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 21:45 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 00:28 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 14:58 -0400, Thom Paine wrote:
> > > All I need for now is an address book for the facility here, then
> > > another one that the users can search through that is integrated with
> > > an outside directory for users to pick mail to send to.
> > 
> > Good luck! There are several step-by-steps available that disagree with
> > each other on one point or another. It's easy has heck to stay confused.
> > I'm waiting for someone to come up with a nice and easy gui that will
> > design the proper connections for me, after I fill in some blanks and
> > check off some tick boxes! Someone will do it, and earn my everlasting
> > praise and thanks. I have prayed over the matter. <grins> Ric
> ----
> GUI based console...however I wouldn't necessarily suggest that this is
> going to make things any easier for you.
> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/
> 
> The reason that 'step-by-steps' disagree with each other is because
> there is no one correct way to do things but whatever works is likely
> correct.

So, if you follow one and it doesn't cut it, then try to follow that
with another that might not like the first attempt text edits, then the
pooch is screwed. At least that seems to be my experience. 

> The fact is that the original concept of LDAP bears little resemblance
> to the uses that it has today.
> 
> If you want the one-vision, GUI based, rigidly designed, fill in some
> blanks, check off some boxes LDAP, Microsoft Active Directory is the
> ticket. But you will bang your head against the wall once you try to
> customize it.

I would prefer that one-vision GUI based, rigidly designed, fill in some
blanks, check off some boxes LDAP, to just get it to work, with room to
try hand editing a *working* system later, all in Open Source. How 'bout
those apples?? <cackles> If the M$ idiots can do it, are you saying that
our propeller heads can't?? Say it ain't so! 

> 
> The really simple answer...learn LDAP. The simple book and method to
> learn LDAP...
> LDAP System Administration by Gerald Carter. Book is now getting old,
> long in the tooth, uses ldbm instead of bdb but the book makes it really
> obvious how to use LDAP and once you learn that, customizing it for what
> you want to accomplish is simple.

Thank God we don't take that approach to all the other major apps. Half
this group would be without email or a network to pipe it through. I
studied sendmail for a solid week in a real paid-for classroom setting.
But, I'd STILL prefer a gui anyday of the week as, without regular use,
the knowledge has completely escaped me. Gone. Phfffft! Up in smoke.
Departed. Gone to the hereafter and the rest of that Dead Parrot
routine. 

I *could* go back and re-learn how to script HTML with vi, but I'm lazy
as heck and much prefer to use an WYSIWYG HTML editor. Same thing. At
any rate, I've buckled down hard, on three occasions, from scratch, and
could not manage to get it to work. And, I'm admitting to it, open to
the dread of potential public shame and ridicule. I set up the scripts
and somewhere in the setting up of the mysql entries it burps and
refuses to work. Just maybe the howtos were a little bit outa date? 

So, I'd also have to learn all of the mysteries of MSQL in order to get
past that as well? I used to run dbaseII from command line in CP/M. I
hated that too! <grins hugely> I just want for our mailing list of 1,300
entries to be accessible to the web to just a couple of users. I just
never imagined it would be so difficult. I've done the hard
part ...typing all of that membership stuff in. OK, I'll try it one more
time, but it won't be tonight! <sighs> Ric


   
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