****Re: Data Recovery:

[Craig White]

some suggestions...

- that you use keep discussions on the list and not think of me as your
personal support dude.

- that you suggested that you updated to Fedora 9 but that boot options
are Fedora 8 and have to answer my first question about how you updated
from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 - i.e. the process used because it appears
that it failed. You probably don't realize that when you fail to answer
the first question I asked, I lost a lot of enthusiasm to help.

- let whatever updates do their thing because it does seem as though
you've got something very unfinished installed there and if it were
completely updated, that seems that would be a good thing.

- that you learn to read release notes, especially before doing things
like update an installation because sometimes, they are really
important.

- if after the updates, gnome still fails to give you menus with
applications, someone on the list can tell you how to restore them back
to defaults.

Craig

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:08 +0000, vohnmaxwell at bellsouth.net wrote:
> 
> After some trial and error and gnashing of teeth, I have finally
> gotten to the point where I can bring up 2 separate terminal sessions
> within the Gnome Gui Desktop.  However, I am still not able to click
> on applications, such as FireFox or Yum and have it launch within the
> gui desktop.
>  
> I will use the terminal sessions to continue updating Fedora 9 (about
> 500 currently).  
>  
> Could the possible issue with launching the applictions within the
> desk top be related to the boot options?  When I boot and press any
> keep to bypass the default (Xen), the options it displays are for
> Fedora 8 not 9.
>  
>  
>         -------------- Original message from Craig White
>         <craigwhite at azapple.com>: -------------- 
>         
>         
>         > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 13:11 +0000, vohnmaxwell at bellsouth.net
>         wrote: 
>         > > 
>         > > Here a are the steps I've taken and the results. 
>         > > 
>         > > 1) Installed Fedora 9 
>         > > Found that Fedora 9 does not support Xen very well. When 
>         > > loading, it would encounter a (XEN) Xen is relinquishing
>         VGA console 
>         > > message then hang up. When I would bypass XEN and attempt
>         to use one 
>         > > of the listed Fedora versions, which I would have assumed
>         would be 
>         > > Fedora 9, the list would be for versions of Fedora 8.
>         After they 
>         > > would load, the applications would not run. I would click
>         on an 
>         > > application, say Firefox, and it would not load. Nothing
>         would 
>         > > happen. I would seem that Fedora was confused by having
>         some parts 
>         > > perhaps Fedora 9 and others Fedora 8 and not being
>         compatable. 
>         > ---- 
>         >
>         http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Virtualization.html 
>         > 
>         > "However, the Xen kernel now lacks Dom0 support. An existing
>         Xen 
>         > host/Dom0 must continue to run Fedora 8. Xen Dom0 support
>         will be added 
>         > back in Fedora 10." 
>         > 
>         > This was in the release notes for Fedora 9 
>         > ---- 
>         > > 2) I tried the Rescue and was confused as to what/how it
>         worked. 
>         > > if said that it put my system to /mnt/sysimage and that I
>         could 
>         > > use the chroot /mnt/sysimage. Well, I am a GUI kind-of-guy
>         and I am 
>         > > clumbsy using anything in command mode. 
>         > ---- 
>         > I would suggest that you become familiar with it because
>         that would 
>         > appear to be necessary to bring your system back online. 
>         > 
>         > boot linux rescue 
>         > command line stuff... 
>         > 
>         > chroot /mnt/sysimage 
>         > yum update # you really need to update 
>         > yum update # you will probably need to update again because 
>         > # the first update will probably just add updates.newkey 
>         > grub-install /dev/sda 
>         > ---- 
>         > > 3) when I backed out of the RESCUE and rebooted into one
>         of the 
>         > > Fedora versions (not XEN), it came up with the main screen
>         but no 
>         > > applications, not icons and the title bar at the bootom
>         and 2 items 
>         > > which siad (UNKNOWN). Clicking on these resulted in
>         nothing 
>         > > happening. 
>         > ---- 
>         > I'm not sure what your intentions are with Xen but it's not
>         going to 
>         > work right for Fedora 9...the release notes do make note of
>         that. 
>         > ---- 
>         > > 4) I then attempted to do a reload of Fedora 9 (update an
>         existing 
>         > > release). This results in just the word GRUB appearing in
>         the 
>         > > upper left of an otherwise blank screen. Nothing happens
>         after this. 
>         > ---- 
>         > try above instructions...should help 
>         > ---- 
>         > > It this juncture, I am very concerned. I have photos and
>         scanned 
>         > > documents on the drive and want to pull them off before I
>         screw things 
>         > > up more. 
>         > ---- 
>         > sounds as if they might be on one of the Xen domains but how
>         would I 
>         > know that. 
>         > 
>         > It might be best to install the Fedora 10 test at this point
>         just to get 
>         > Xen working again...I am just not aware how well it works
>         and what is 
>         > broken. 
>         > 
>         > Craig 
>         >