trends in fedora

[Bill Davidsen]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Given that the network isn't brought up until the user logs in
>>
>> Checking the "activate device when computer starts" option in
>> system-config-network works nicely for me.
>>
> I had the feeling that I needed NM to get wsa working, but I'll try 
> anything at this point. I'll let you know if that helps.
> 
It appears that the current working solution is to start the interface by hand 
after the system is up, define it in network and keep NM out. It may be that NM 
simply came in with an upgrade at the same time as the breakage, but I'm not 
going back.

The proximate cause seems to be that DHCP tried to set up the NIC before it 
associates, because the supplicant is either not starting early enough or just 
taking too long to get connected. I about 85% sure of that sequence, most o the 
time I get associated but no IP, and my little script doesn't start dhclient 
until the AP is connected.

> I just wish upgrade would mean "works better" rather than "works 
> differently if at all." This system was dead reliable before the 
> "security update" came along.
> 
The timing of this startup may well have been right on the edge before the 
upgrade, and making something faster might be the one thing which made it too fast.

Thanks to all who offered ideas, given the ability to generate a script and no 
issues about running it being too inconvenient, I'm regarding this as ugly but 
working.

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Bill Davidsen <davidsen at tmr.com>
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