****Re: Data Recovery:

Mon Oct 27 12:36:42 UTC 2008

I've upgraded/updated installed packages for Fedora 9.  I've removed Xen.  I am able to start either KDE or Gnome.

However, individual applications are a hit-or-miss.  Very much a miss with either KDE or Gnome.  The application will give all indications that it is starting, either the message on the status bar or a flash screen.  But, it does not start.   The only ones I have been successful to start thus far are Kyum (both), Terminal (Gnome), File Manager (Dolphan in KDE).  

When I shut down in Gnome, the system hangs.

I hope some one has some ideas.

Thanks.
-------------- Original message from Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com>: -------------- 

> some suggestions... 
> 
> - that you use keep discussions on the list and not think of me as your 
> personal support dude. 
> 
> - that you suggested that you updated to Fedora 9 but that boot options 
> are Fedora 8 and have to answer my first question about how you updated 
> from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 - i.e. the process used because it appears 
> that it failed. You probably don't realize that when you fail to answer 
> the first question I asked, I lost a lot of enthusiasm to help. 
> 
> - let whatever updates do their thing because it does seem as though 
> you've got something very unfinished installed there and if it were 
> completely updated, that seems that would be a good thing. 
> 
> - that you learn to read release notes, especially before doing things 
> like update an installation because sometimes, they are really 
> important. 
> 
> - if after the updates, gnome still fails to give you menus with 
> applications, someone on the list can tell you how to restore them back 
> to defaults. 
> 
> Craig 
> 
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:08 +0000, vohnmaxwell at bellsouth.net wrote: 
> > 
> > After some trial and error and gnashing of teeth, I have finally 
> > gotten to the point where I can bring up 2 separate terminal sessions 
> > within the Gnome Gui Desktop. However, I am still not able to click 
> > on applications, such as FireFox or Yum and have it launch within the 
> > gui desktop. 
> > 
> > I will use the terminal sessions to continue updating Fedora 9 (about 
> > 500 currently). 
> > 
> > Could the possible issue with launching the applictions within the 
> > desk top be related to the boot options? When I boot and press any 
> > keep to bypass the default (Xen), the options it displays are for 
> > Fedora 8 not 9. 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from Craig White 
> > : -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 13:11 +0000, vohnmaxwell at bellsouth.net 
> > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Here a are the steps I've taken and the results. 
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Installed Fedora 9 
> > > > Found that Fedora 9 does not support Xen very well. When 
> > > > loading, it would encounter a (XEN) Xen is relinquishing 
> > VGA console 
> > > > message then hang up. When I would bypass XEN and attempt 
> > to use one 
> > > > of the listed Fedora versions, which I would have assumed 
> > would be 
> > > > Fedora 9, the list would be for versions of Fedora 8. 
> > After they 
> > > > would load, the applications would not run. I would click 
> > on an 
> > > > application, say Firefox, and it would not load. Nothing 
> > would 
> > > > happen. I would seem that Fedora was confused by having 
> > some parts 
> > > > perhaps Fedora 9 and others Fedora 8 and not being 
> > compatable. 
> > > ---- 
> > > 
> > 
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Virtualization.html 
> > > 
> > > "However, the Xen kernel now lacks Dom0 support. An existing 
> > Xen 
> > > host/Dom0 must continue to run Fedora 8. Xen Dom0 support 
> > will be added 
> > > back in Fedora 10." 
> > > 
> > > This was in the release notes for Fedora 9 
> > > ---- 
> > > > 2) I tried the Rescue and was confused as to what/how it 
> > worked. 
> > > > if said that it put my system to /mnt/sysimage and that I 
> > could 
> > > > use the chroot /mnt/sysimage. Well, I am a GUI kind-of-guy 
> > and I am 
> > > > clumbsy using anything in command mode. 
> > > ---- 
> > > I would suggest that you become familiar with it because 
> > that would 
> > > appear to be necessary to bring your system back online. 
> > > 
> > > boot linux rescue 
> > > command line stuff... 
> > > 
> > > chroot /mnt/sysimage 
> > > yum update # you really need to update 
> > > yum update # you will probably need to update again because 
> > > # the first update will probably just add updates.newkey 
> > > grub-install /dev/sda 
> > > ---- 
> > > > 3) when I backed out of the RESCUE and rebooted into one 
> > of the 
> > > > Fedora versions (not XEN), it came up with the main screen 
> > but no 
> > > > applications, not icons and the title bar at the bootom 
> > and 2 items 
> > > > which siad (UNKNOWN). Clicking on these resulted in 
> > nothing 
> > > > happening. 
> > > ---- 
> > > I'm not sure what your intentions are with Xen but it's not 
> > going to 
> > > work right for Fedora 9...the release notes do make note of 
> > that. 
> > > ---- 
> > > > 4) I then attempted to do a reload of Fedora 9 (update an 
> > existing 
> > > > release). This results in just the word GRUB appearing in 
> > the 
> > > > upper left of an otherwise blank screen. Nothing happens 
> > after this. 
> > > ---- 
> > > try above instructions...should help 
> > > ---- 
> > > > It this juncture, I am very concerned. I have photos and 
> > scanned 
> > > > documents on the drive and want to pull them off before I 
> > screw things 
> > > > up more. 
> > > ---- 
> > > sounds as if they might be on one of the Xen domains but how 
> > would I 
> > > know that. 
> > > 
> > > It might be best to install the Fedora 10 test at this point 
> > just to get 
> > > Xen working again...I am just not aware how well it works 
> > and what is 
> > > broken. 
> > > 
> > > Craig 
> > > 
> 
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