fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95
winiston
winiston at futuraautomation.com
Fri Sep 12 04:33:49 UTC 2008
Hello Kelvin Kofler,
I meant to say Fedora 9.
With Best Regards,
Winiston.P
Futura Automation Pvt Ltd.
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> 1. Yum Errors (Dan Bunyard)
> 2. Re: no new kernels? (Steve Repo)
> 3. Re: Regarding Fedora core 9 (Kevin Kofler)
> 4. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
> 5. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
> 6. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
> 7. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
> it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Kevin Kofler)
> 8. Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail (Tim)
> 9. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
> tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
> 10. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
> tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
> 11. Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing (Kevin Kofler)
> 12. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak)
> 13. Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues (Daniel J Walsh)
> 14. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> 15. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
> it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> 16. Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS (landon kelsey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:31:34 -0400
> From: "Dan Bunyard" <danodemano at gmail.com>
> Subject: Yum Errors
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID:
> <8b7257c50809110331q150da4acvb6143f9c0e65d971 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> After running yum update a second time on my Fedora 9 system, I am now
> receiving this when I try to run yum:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module>
> yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
> File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
> errcode = main(args)
> File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 84, in main
> base.getOptionsConfig(args)
> File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 184, in getOptionsConfig
> enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 189, in
> _getConfig
> startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins,enabled_plugins)
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 355, in
> doPluginSetup
> plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins, enabled_plugins)
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 152, in
> __init__
> self._importplugins(types)
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 195, in
> _importplugins
> self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 251, in
> _loadplugin
> module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
> File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py", line 111
> ('committers', 'committer')]
> ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:10:36 +0530
> From: "Steve Repo" <scmuser at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: no new kernels?
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
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> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, landon kelsey <landonmkelsey at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> ditto! I suppose changing too many things at once!
>>
>> Never change horses in mid stream
>>
>> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Tom Horsley <tom.horsley at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley at att.net>
>> Subject: no new kernels?
>> To: "Fedora List" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:03 PM
>>
>> Just asking :-). I was kinda surprised that no new
>> kernel showed up in any of the F8 or F9 updates
>> (for me anyway).
>
>
> I'm rather wait for 2.6.27 since it's just around the corner (i'm
> waiting for ath9k) :)
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:46:55 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: Regarding Fedora core 9
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T104625-300 at post.gmane.org>
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> winiston <winiston <at> futuraautomation.com> writes:
>> Currently i am facing the problem in Fedora core 9
>
> Fedora core 9 does not exist. You mean Fedora 9.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: Yum Error
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T105644-593 at post.gmane.org>
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> Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
>> <Type 'exceptions KeyError' > yum.YumRepo. YumRepository object at
>> 0xd69cpc><traceback object at 0xb87366c>
>
> This error has nothing to do with signing keys.
>
> That said, Rawhide packages are NOT signed. That's because they're NOT
> intended
> for the average user to install and in particular, MUST NOT be installed
> on a
> Fedora 9 system.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:00:08 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: Yum Error
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T105813-791 at post.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
>> I know that.
>> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
>
> There's a reason: it has been built for Rawhide and thus wants Rawhide
> libraries. This in turn forces other applications to be upgraded to
> versions
> also built against Rawhide libraries, which means you're upgrading a huge
> number of packages to Rawhide versions and effectively no longer running
> F9,
> but a broken mix of F9 and Rawhide.
>
> KDE 4.1.1 packages actually targeted for F9 are about to be pushed to
> updates-testing (and the stable updates about a week later).
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:05:58 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: Yum Error
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T110033-187 at post.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Jim <mickeyboa <at> sbcglobal.net> writes:
>> I know this may shock you Patrick but I now have kde-4.1.1-fc10 running
>> in FC9. No error messages.
>
> <SARCASM>Congratulations!</SARCASM> You are now running an unsupported mix
> of
> F9 and Rawhide packages. You are going to encounter many bugs due to the
> fact
> that the mix is completely untested. You are also going to end up with
> some
> packages which got updated from Rawhide getting no security updates
> because
> Rawhide has a newer version and you're not pulling the security updates
> from
> Rawhide (because chances are you didn't even keep track of WHICH packages
> you
> installed from Rawhide, it's definitely not just KDE, due to the network
> of
> dependencies and reverse-dependencies). And there is NO reliable way to
> get
> back to stock F9 without reinstalling.
>
> So you're left with only 2 options:
> A. upgrade to Rawhide completely, track Rawhide and eventually end up with
> F10,
> assuming you manage to jump off Rawhide at the right time and won't drag
> in F11
> Rawhide stuff again.
> B. completely reformat and reinstall F9 from scratch and NEVER EVER AGAIN
> touch
> the Rawhide repository.
>
> We're building KDE updates for F9 for a reason!
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:23:25 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
> it ! Folderview and panel questions...
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112248-110 at post.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
>> includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker (or
>> Dolphin).
>
> You mean Kickoff (i.e. the menu). There's no Kicker in KDE 4.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:59:22 +0930
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail
> To: gayleard at eircom.net, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
> advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1221132562.2926.1.camel at suspishus.lan.cameratim.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 14:59 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> Also I assume if They start a service by default
>> They must have some reason to do that.
>
> There's quite a few "running by default" services that don't seem
> sensible defaults. e.g. There's an ISDN service, and that's such an
> unusual type of comms that I'd expect anyone using it would know how to
> turn on the service for themselves.
>
> --
> [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I
> read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:29:42 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
> tricks thread.
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112822-602 at post.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> landon kelsey <landonmkelsey <at> yahoo.com> writes:
>> ridiculous! does anybody put directions on a toilet?
>
> Many people do...
> http://images.google.com/images?q=toilet+instructions
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:26:31 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
> tricks thread.
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T112616-951 at post.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> linuxguy <linuxguy123 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> Question: Is there a way so that when I click on a folder in a folder
>> view that it opens a new folder rather than with dolphin ?
>
> No.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:17:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at>
> Subject: Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <loom.20080911T111644-157 at post.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> linuxguy <linuxguy123 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> On booting F9 with the recent KDE4.1 update, I get:
>>
>> A Fatal Error Occurred
>> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal
>> 11 (SIGSEGV).
>
> This is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461848
> This was reported to us only after 4.1.0 went stable.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:08:05 -0400
> From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" <mjc at avtechpulse.com>
> Subject: Re: blue screen of death after logout
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C90A25.80200 at avtechpulse.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>> If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability.
>> Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets
>
> Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't
> working at a different resolution than the desktop...
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:43:23 -0400
> From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C9126B.8010808 at redhat.com>
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> Stephen Croll wrote:
>> Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>> So it looks like you already have a leaked file descriptor in the shell
>>> that you are running these commands from
>>>
>>> Does ls -lZ /proc/self/fd show anything stange?
>> Yes it does, fd 25:
>>
>> [root at gerbil ~]# ls -lZ /proc/self/fd
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 0 -> /dev/pts/0
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1 -> /dev/pts/0
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 2 -> /dev/pts/0
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 25 ->
>> socket:[18571]
>> lr-x------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 -> /proc/3446/fd
>>
>> It would appear fd 3 is what ls is using to read the entries in
>> /proc/self/fd (also verified with strace):
>>
>> [root at gerbil ~]# ls -lZ /proc/self/fd &
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 0 -> /dev/pts/0
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 1 -> /dev/pts/0
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 2 -> /dev/pts/0
>> lrwx------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 25 ->
>> socket:[18571]
>> lr-x------ root root
>> unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 -> /proc/3463/fd
>> [1] 3463
>> [1]+ Done ls --color=auto -lZ /proc/self/fd
>>
>> I've been trying to figure out the mysteries of NetworkManager and
>> mixing wired and wireless connections. I just noticed that if I don't
>> have NetworkManager configured at boot, I don't get the AVC denial nor
>> do I see the socket on fd 25.
>>
>> Additionally, I noticed that even if NetworkManager is configured at
>> boot, I don't see the AVC denial/fd 25 issue when running in a virtual
>> terminal. Upon further investigation, this issue only seems to occur
>> when running KDE+konsole, but not KDE+gnome-terminal, nor
>> GNOME+konsole, nor GNOME+gnome-terminal.
>>
> So KDE+Konsole seems to be leaking a file descriptor.
>
>> Also, I don't see fd 25 when connecting remotely (over SSH) and
>> running the above ls command.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Croll
>>
>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:18:44 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: blue screen of death after logout
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1221137324.13947.5.camel at bree.homelinux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
>> > If your Multisync is like some of mine it has dual input capability.
>> > Sometimes when changing modes (such as after logout) the monitor gets
>>
>> Why does the monitor change modes after logout, anyway? gdm isn't
>> working at a different resolution than the desktop...
>
> Could be because the X server is restarted.
>
> poc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:26:10 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like
> it ! Folderview and panel questions...
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1221137770.13947.8.camel at bree.homelinux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:23 +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> > Craig was mistaken. Right-click on empty space to a get a menu which
>> > includes adding widgets. To add an app, Right-click on it in Kicker (or
>> > Dolphin).
>>
>> You mean Kickoff (i.e. the menu). There's no Kicker in KDE 4.
>
> Yes. Ironically I could never remember the name Kicker since it means
> nothing whereas Kickoff does kind of mean something :-)
>
> poc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:56:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: landon kelsey <landonmkelsey at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <422344.20829.qm at web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I get all ALL kinds of advice on these forums!
>
> I've gotten this:
>
>> yum clean all
>> yum clean metadata
>> yum clean dbcache
>
> from several different sources.
>
> I am spread way too thin already to become an expert on yum, XORG,
> X11, SELinux, the kernel, device drivers, etc.
> and many other technologies I have NO knowledge of!
>
> I will use yum as an update mechanism and trust its creators
>
> as I do with XP Prof.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils; WORKS
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 4:11 AM
>
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:32:16 -0700 (PDT), landon kelsey wrote:
>
>> my yum update now show all done
>>
>> I was told one must do these occasionally :
>>
>> yum clean all
>> yum clean metadata
>> yum clean dbcache
>
> Who has said that? It's nonsense, because "all" implies
> "metadata dbcache packages headers". No need to run three
> different commands if you want to purge everything. These
> options are explained in the manual, btw.
>
>> yum update
>>
>> or get nothing when there IS something to get!
>
> "yum clean metadata" is enough to make Yum re-download the repository
> metadata (instead of reusing cached data for 30 minutes). When refetching
> metadata it is possible that you are assigned to a different mirror
> that is more up-to-date than your previous one. There is NO guarantee
> for that.
>
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