fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

Fri Sep 12 04:53:09 UTC 2008

Hi friends,

Currently i am facing the problem in FC 9

    The Problem is:

    I have installed FC  9 in Intel 852GM chip with 6.4" display.
    But i can not set 640x480 resolution.
    i can able to set from 800x600 to 1024x768 range.
    I want to set 640x480 resolution.
    Can you provide the VGA driver?
    How to rectify this problem?

    Thanks a lot.

With Best Regards,
Winiston.P
Futura Automation Pvt Ltd.
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>   1. Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height (Florian Sievert)
>   2. Re: Should I disable the old updates repo? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>   3. Problems after updates  (was: Fedora 8 and 9 updates
>      re-enabled) (John Thompson)
>   4. Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice (Dave Cross)
>   5. Re: Should I disable the old updates repo? (Brian Millett)
>   6. Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice (Mauriat)
>   7. Fedora 10 (Rawhide) missing pand - UPDATED
>      (Andrew Kenton Mitchell)
>   8. Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend (Robin Laing)
>   9. XFCE F9 ssh gui? (Frank Murphy)
>  10. Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree (Rex Dieter)
>  11. Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui? (Mark Haney)
>  12. Re: Should I disable the old updates repo? (Rex Dieter)
>  13. Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui? (Frank Murphy)
>  14. Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height (Timothy Murphy)
>  15. Re: microphone not recording (JoaoCid)
>  16. Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui? (John Thompson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:02:13 +0200
> From: Florian Sievert <floriansievert at phobeus.de>
> Subject: Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height
> To: gayleard at eircom.net, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
> advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C94105.50205 at phobeus.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Timothy,
>> I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
>> panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
>> Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
>> My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.
>>
> The way of doing it has changed since 4.0.x. It is solved much better in
> 4.2 trunk, however the feature does exist, even if it is quite well
> hidden. First get sure that you unlocked widgets. Either click on the
> cashew of the panel or select "panel settings" from the context menu. A
> new bar appears next to the panel. If you select the border of this
> panel, you can select the size that the panel should have. If you click
> on the bar, you can drag it into another screen edge. Hope this helps.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Florian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:14:32 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1221147872.23460.12.camel at bree.homelinux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 20:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>> > I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
>> > while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
>> > place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to 
>> > work.
>>
>> If you have edited the files by hand, rpm updates won't overwrite the
>> configuration files usually and instead create .rpmnew files which gives
>> the user a chance to manually review and adopt the changes.
>
> I realize that, I wasn't complaining :-)
>
> poc
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:45:14 -0500
> From: John Thompson <johndthompson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Problems after updates  (was: Fedora 8 and 9 updates
> re-enabled)
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C93D0A.2050703 at gmail.com>
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> I pulled down and installed about 90 updates, but since then none of the
> objects in my ~/Desktop will launch programs -- instead they open as
> text files in the editor.
>
> I had this happen once before and managed to fix it, but for the life of
> me I can't remember how?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> - --
>
> - -John (john at os2.dhs.org)
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:40 +0100
> From: "Dave Cross" <davorg at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 2008/9/11 Brian Millett <bmillett at gmail.com>:
>> Timothy Murphy escribío:
>>> I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
>>> for keeping a record of appointments, etc.
>>>
>>> These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
>>> to be well-designed, and the default choice
>>> which any rival must improve upon in some way.
>>>
>>> The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
>>> "Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
>>> at <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/
>>> Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.
>>>
>>> I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".
>>>
>>> But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
>>> more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>> What do you use for email?  Sounds like you use KDE, but...
>>
>> I use Thunderbird and the lightning plugin.  The integration is much 
>> better than before
>> and is quite good.  The appointments, or invites sent by my mac friends 
>> can easily be
>> subscribed to.  It works for me.  I use the latest plugin found below and 
>> it is stable for me.
>>
>> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/linux-xpi/lightning.xpi
>
> And if you're using Thunderbird with Lightning then I also highly
> recommend the Provider add-on which enables two-way synchronisation
> with Google Calendar.
>
>  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4631
>
> Dave...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:27:11 -0500
> From: Brian Millett <bmillett at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C946DF.9010704 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Mikkel L. Ellertson escribÃo:
>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>>> On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
>>>> the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
>>> I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
>>> while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
>>> place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.
>>>
>>> poc
>>>
>> Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
>> .rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
>> config file does not work with the new version...)
>>
>> Mikkel
>>
>
> Not those.  I had the fedora.repo.  What I got instead was two new ones
>
> fedora-updates-newkey.repo
> fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo
>
> I just deleted the older fedora-updates.repo & fedora-updates-testing.repo
>
> Thanks for all help.
>
> -- 
> Brian Millett - [ Ivanova (re: Kosh's ship), "Hunter, Prey"]
> "You can see why we've had to quarantine this whole area. The last
> maintenance crew we had in here wouldn't come back. They kept having
> dreams about this thing. They said it talked to them in their sleep."
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:28:24 -0400
> From: Mauriat <mirandam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
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> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> 
> wrote:
>> I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
>> for keeping a record of appointments, etc.
>>
>> These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
>> to be well-designed, and the default choice
>> which any rival must improve upon in some way.
>>
>> The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
>> "Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
>> at <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/
>> Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.
>>
>> I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".
>>
>> But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
>> more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?
>>
>> Any suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>
> I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it would also be great if
> anyone has had positive experience with a calendar solution that is
> known to just work with a PDA (PDA recommendations accepted as well).
>
> -Mauriat
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:33:10 -0400
> From: Andrew Kenton Mitchell <andrew.mitchell at wdidata.net>
> Subject: Fedora 10 (Rawhide) missing pand - UPDATED
> To: fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com, fedora-list at redhat.com,
> fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <48C94846.2010906 at wdidata.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I sent a message asking for advice/help yesterday.  Sorry if I'm
> burdening anybody's in box, however, I have more info and I wanted to 
> share.
>
> The rawhide bluez-utils package seems to be missing /usr/bin/pand.
>
> I tried to add the --enable-pand witch and rebuild the RPM from sources
> however, bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.src.rpm doesn't seem to want to extract
> on my system.
>
> I dug around to see if pand was provided by a differing package:
>
> # yum whatprovides */pand
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386 : Bluetooth utilities
> Matched from:
> Filename    : /etc/rc.d/init.d/pand
> Filename    : /etc/sysconfig/pand
>
>
>
> bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386 : Bluetooth utilities
> Matched from:
> Filename    : /etc/rc.d/init.d/pand
> Filename    : /etc/sysconfig/pand
>
> Then I decided to try a bluez-utils reinstall:
>
> ]# yum install bluez-utils
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> Parsing package install arguments
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-2.fc10 set to be updated
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>
> Dependencies Resolved
>
> ================================================================================
>  Package              Arch          Version              Repository
>    Size
> ================================================================================
> Installing:
>  bluez-utils          i386          3.36-2.fc10          rawhide
>    483 k
>
> Transaction Summary
> ================================================================================
> Install      1 Package(s)
> Update       0 Package(s)
> Remove       0 Package(s)
>
> Total download size: 483 k
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
> bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386.rpm
>
>       | 483 kB     00:03
> Running rpm_check_debug
> Running Transaction Test
> Finished Transaction Test
> Transaction Test Succeeded
> Running Transaction
>   Installing     : bluez-utils                                       [1/1]
> service bluetooth does not support chkconfig
>
> Installed: bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-2.fc10
> Complete!
>
> The init script error surprised me.  Does anybody know if this is a just
> a bug.  Is pand being depreciated?  If so, what is the replacement?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Can anybody suggest a fix or alternative?
>
> -- 
> Andrew Kenton Mitchell
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:44:08 -0600
> From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
> Subject: Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C958E8.7060904 at drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Mike McMullen wrote:
>> Thank you Gilboa and James!
>>
>> Here's a little more information.
>>
>> Someone gave me the de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 PC. So I have a free PC
>> I'd like to turn into a NAS server. This doesn't have to be pretty just
>> functional and semi-cheap.
>>
>> Since there isn't room in the PC case for the drives, let alone cooling
>> and power, I figured some external case/RAID storage box might do the
>> trick.
>>
>> This thing doesn't need to be the fastest on the planet just reliable
>> and as inexpensive as possible. I need the money for lenses for the
>> cameras. ;o)
>>
>> I've been looking at enclosures etc at www.pc-pitstop.com that use a
>> port multiplier.
>>
>> These seem reasonable. Anyone know anything about port multipliers? Am I
>> missing something big here?
>>
>> I'm definitely not an expert on raid storage.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 06:35 -0700, Mike McMullen wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am trying to build a NAS server based on Fedora 9.
>>>
>>> I will be using a de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core with 2GB RAM
>> and
>>> two 250GB drives mirrored for the OS stuff and a few apps.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Instead of purchasing an external case, I would look at the suggestion
> of getting a new computer with enough SATA ports to work with you drive
> requirements.  It could be cheaper to do this and provide a server that
> can do other things like transcoding videos or running ImageMagick
> scripts on directories of photos.
>
> I just purchased a large Thermaltake case that can hold all the drives
> my ASUS motherboard has SATA and IDE ports for.
>
> I am looking at this as well but looking at the new Seagate 1.5TB drives.
>
> From a previous thread, you may want to order your drives at different
> times to ensure that all your drives don't come from the same batch.
>
> I was looking at using RAID 1 but the lost drive space over RAID 1 and
> RAID 5 is drastic enough.
>
> I have had drive issues under RAID 1 with software RAID and recovery was
> very easy.  I don't see any reason for hardware RAID for a home small
> business system.  You can use that money for a decent camera lens.
>
>
> -- 
> Robin Laing
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:06:18 +0100
> From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d at gmail.com>
> Subject: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
> To: fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1221156378.2373.12.camel at frank-01>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
> authorised_keys etc..
>
> What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based.
>
>
> Frank
>
>
> -- 
> gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :(
> aMSN: Frankly3D
> http://www.frankly3d.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:09:19 -0500
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>
> Subject: Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <gabmsf$mcd$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> David R. Wilson wrote:
>>> Hello fellows,
>>>
>>> Dependency problem I ran into this morning from 2 machines:
>>>
>>> xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 from livna has depsolving
>>> problems
>>>   --> Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
>>> package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
>>> Error: Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
>>> package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
>>>
>>>
>>> Could someone take a look?
>>
>> Known issue. Updates have been pushed and not just synced with all the
>> mirrors yet. Might try
>
> Afaict, it's one mirror in particular out of sync,
> livna.cat.pdx.edu
> most/all others are fine.
>
> -- Rex
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:12:45 -0400
> From: "Mark Haney" <mhaney at ercbroadband.org>
> Subject: Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
> To: <frankly3d at gmail.com>, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
> advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48C95F9D.8090206 at ercbroadband.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> Frank Murphy wrote:
>> I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
>> authorised_keys etc..
>>
>> What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based.
>>
>>
>> Frank
>>
>
> You lost me, what do you mean?  Do you need to get a GUI on the server
> you SSH into?  If so, you should just be able to run a remote X session.
>
> From the CLI once you've logged in, try running xconsole then you can
> start up any GUI application you want.  (At least that's how I do it.)
>
>
>
> -- 
> Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar
>
>
> Mark Haney
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> ERC Broadband
> (828) 350-2415
>
> Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:10:47 -0500
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu>
> Subject: Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <gabmv8$mcd$2 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Brian Millett wrote:
>
>> The old fedora-updates.repo ??
>
> No (you can, but it's not necessary).
>
> -- Rex
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:17:43 +0100
> From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
> To: Mark Haney <mhaney at ercbroadband.org>
> Cc: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
> Fedora." <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1221157063.2373.16.camel at frank-01>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 14:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
>> >
>>
>> You lost me, what do you mean?  Do you need to get a GUI on the server
>
> GUI on the client, in gnome you can "connect to server" your in, and
> bookmark it.
>
> I don't want to type, just "connect to server", but thunar doesn't seem
> to have a similar function.
>
>
>> you SSH into?  If so, you should just be able to run a remote X session.
>>
>>  From the CLI once you've logged in, try running xconsole then you can
>> start up any GUI application you want.  (At least that's how I do it.)
>>
>
> I don't want to start a gui on the server.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:27:49 +0200
> From: Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net>
> Subject: Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <gabo36$r73$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Florian Sievert wrote:
>
>>> I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
>>> panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
>>> Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
>>> My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.
>>>
>> The way of doing it has changed since 4.0.x. It is solved much better in
>> 4.2 trunk, however the feature does exist, even if it is quite well
>> hidden. First get sure that you unlocked widgets. Either click on the
>> cashew of the panel or select "panel settings" from the context menu. A
>> new bar appears next to the panel. If you select the border of this
>> panel, you can select the size that the panel should have. If you click
>> on the bar, you can drag it into another screen edge. Hope this helps.
>
> Unfortunately, following your advice (probably wrongly)
> has had a disastrous effect.
> My panel has disappeared completely,
> including the F start icon.
> The only way I can run any application (like knode)
> is to right-click on the empty screen and choose "Give command".
>
> How can I get my panel back?
> Clicking on "Add panel" has no noticeable effect.
>
> I tried mv-ing .kde to .kde.bak and re-starting X.
> This worked, but would mean I have to re-set all my settings,
> which would be too boring.
> It is easier to do without the panel.
>
> If I knew which file in .kde/share/configs/ actually deals with the panel
> I could probably fix it.
>
> Sorry, but my experience with KDE-4.1 has been very bad, to date.
> My impression is that the KDE team have become much too clever,
> and have forgotten that simplicity is often the best way.
>
> In any case, does anyone know where I can find my panel, please?
>
>
> -- 
> Timothy Murphy
> e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
> tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
> s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:31:03 +0200
> From: JoaoCid <no-reply-gw at fcp.surfsite.org>
> Subject: Re: microphone not recording
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <050b4f36d233a86a4a7745c6e356dfbe at fcp.surfsite.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello Antonio,
> Thanks for the feedback, first of all...
> The answer is yes, I've done that in the alsamixer (gui/gnome version), 
> and what I find strange is that I am not able to see the respective 
> information also in the alsamixer console-version!
> Does this help to go a bit further?
> Again, thanks
> :)
> Joao
>
>
> -- 
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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:42:45 -0500
> From: John Thompson <johndthompson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?
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> Frank Murphy wrote:
> | I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
> | authorised_keys etc..
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> | What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based
>
> PuTTY for linux:
> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml
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> - -John (john at os2.dhs.org)
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