fedora-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 181

Plating plating at ruraltel.net
Fri Sep 19 21:29:34 UTC 2008


Hello Christy, sorry I have not gotten you called back.
There is nothing to report on Nana,  It is the same as always and I think 
going to her doctor or at least Dr. Fast is nothing but a waste of time 
because he does nothing for her.  We might try a rumaloligst to see if the 
can help with the fibermyalga?    She is having a little better week, 
yesterday was not the greatest but today is better.  Kris Kathy there at 
riverside said she had been really blue when she has not been feeling well 
and they have tried to talk her into coming to Hays, I told Nana that has to 
be her choice.  They are concerend about not having enough family.  That is 
a second time they have mentioned that to me in a year.
Yes, I will bring all of my stuff with me when I come to show you.  I want 
to come when your going to be there so if you can look at your Calendar and 
let me know when it would be good for you and we can make time to get 
together.  Our compacts are really nice and not big like the older ones. 
Our older ones where like to siz of a loaptop but therse are much smaller. 
They are awesome.  Well, I will let you go and have a great weekend and let 
me know at week and day would work.  Thanks Meghan
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>   1. Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works (Mike McCarty)
>   2. Re: Estimating System wattage (Rich Emberson)
>   3. Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200 (Arthur Pemberton)
>   4. Re: network vs NetworkManger services ?? (Tim)
>   5. Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200 (Tom Horsley)
>   6. Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200 (Dave Burns)
>   7. Re: Blog Client (Rahul Sundaram)
>   8. Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works (Tim)
>   9. Re: Blog Client (Srikanth Konjarla)
>  10. Re: Blog Client (Rahul Sundaram)
>  11. Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
>      Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530) (Jim Cornette)
>  12. Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
>      Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530) (Ed Greshko)
>  13. Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works (Mike McCarty)
>  14. Re: where are the updates? (Renich Bon Ciric)
>  15. Re: How to search the Fedora List (Renich Bon Ciric)
>  16. Re: Slightly [OT] Network Monitoring/Alerting tools (Adam Hough)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:56:24 -0500
> From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE0EB8.5070808 at sbcglobal.net>
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> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> You may want to run ls -l /dev/cdrom to see where it points to. If
>> this was the only device on the secondary IDE controller, and you
>> are not using cable select, then it is possible that the old drive
>> was jumpered as a slave drive, and the new on is jumpered as either
>> master or cable select. That would mess up the cdrom symlink.
>
> Ok, I put both of them on the cable, jumpered as CS, with the CD
> on the Master, and the DVD on the slave location. I rebooted, and
> got an entry in my fstab...
>
> /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
> /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
>
> [spaces edited]
>
> Also,
>
> $ ls -l /dev/cd*
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     8 Aug 21 19:26 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     8 Aug 21 19:44 /dev/cdrom1 -> /dev/hdd
> brw-rw----  1 root disk 15, 0 Feb 23  2004 /dev/cdu31a
> brw-rw----  1 root disk 24, 0 Feb 23  2004 /dev/cdu535
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     8 Aug 21 19:44 /dev/cdwriter -> /dev/hdd
>
> The CD drive works as expected. The DVD does not. When I put a
> written CD into the CD drive, it mounts, and shows the label.
> When I put the same disc into the DVD drive, it brings up the
> CD Creator box, like it was blank. Closing that, and doing a mount
> causes the disc to mount and be usable, but the label is not
> noticed, it mounts just as cdrom1.
>
> Mike
> -- 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:01:18 -0700
> From: "Rich Emberson" <emberson.rich at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Estimating System wattage
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
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> Knute Johnson wrote:
>> Rich Emberson wrote:
>>> So, I recently built a new system. I figured out what
>>> motherboard I wanted, what cpu, how much memory and
>>> disk and then I when and used a couple of the online
>>> system wattage calculators and got somewhere between
>>> 500 to 650 watts. I could not get (find) a PSU
>>> with the right connectors for the motherboard so
>>> I ended up getting Silverstone Zeus 750 watt supply
>>> (yea, overkill). I then got a UPS from a local store.
>>> They had a sale and a higher end UPS turned out to
>>> be cheaper than a 600 watt unit, so I got a
>>> APC UPS BX1500LCD (865 watt) (again, overkill but nice).
>>> What is interesting about this UPS is that it can
>>> show the current wattage used by your system on its
>>> LED (along with other stuff).
>>> Now, my strategy for constructing the new system was to pick
>>> a motherboard that was build for high-end power and then
>>> pick cool components; I am a developer, not a game player
>>> and this system will house MythTV and Asterisk someday,
>>> well as serve as a development box.
>>> So, what I ended up with was:
>>>
>>>     ASUS P5Q Deluxe
>>>     Intel quad core QX9550
>>>         95 watts max for $550
>>>         (the QX9650 is 130 watts at $1000)
>>>     8GB CORSAIR (DOMINATOR) TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF
>>>     Asus EN7300GT silent graphics board
>>>         idle: 8.7 Watts
>>>         max: 16.1 Watts
>>>     2 WD VelociRaptor Model: WD3000GLFS 300
>>>         Read/Write  6.08 Watts
>>>         Idle        4.53 Watts
>>>         Standby     0.42 Watts
>>>         Sleep       0.42 Watts
>>>     2 WD Caviar GP Model: WD10EACS 1 TB
>>>         Read/Write  7.50 Watts
>>>         Idle        4.0 Watts
>>>         Standby     0.97 Watts
>>>         Sleep       0.97 Watts
>>>     ASUS V60 cpu cooler (overkill)
>>>     SAMSUNG  SH-S203N DVD/CD RW
>>>     Logitech SBF-90 Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel
>>>     Logitech 967738-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys
>>>     SST-ST75ZF Zeus power supply (overkill)
>>>     APC UPS BX1500LCD (overkill, but very nice)
>>>     Lian Li PC-A71 Black (overkill, but very, very nice)
>>>     BIOS 0803
>>>     Fedora 9 64
>>>
>>> Now, with no applications running, idle, according to the UPS
>>> the system uses 70 watts.
>>> The highest wattage I can get it to use running bunches of
>>> parallel compiles is about 125 watts.
>>>
>>> My question is: whats with the online wattage estimators?
>>> Are they all implemented by folks selling power supplies
>>> who want to sell users bigger ones than are needed?
>>>
>>> In terms of power needs, I ended up way over-specing $$ the system.
>>> Basically, I ended up with a system that
>>> uses as much power as a 120 watt light bulb.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>
>> Watts are simple, you just add them up.  When I add up yours, I get
>> 114.5 max load for the items you listed.  I would guess then that the
>> 125 watts you are seeing is probably pretty close.  The power supply you
>> bought is probably bigger than you need but the UPS, if you want to run
>> on the battery more than a couple of minutes, is probably undersized.
>
> Turns out another part of the UPS' LED output is an estimation of how long
> it can support the current system at current load. For my system this time
> varies from 60 to 70 minutues.
>
>>
>> If I were going to build a computer, I would probably size my power
>> supply for twice the expected load plus a little to account for things I
>> don't think of.  Now it is possible to put a lot of load on USB ports
>> with external drives or other equipment so you would want to allow some
>> more for that.
>>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:01:16 -0500
> From: "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
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> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Jim Cornette <fc-cornette at wowway.com> 
> wrote:
>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:35:20 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
>>>
>>>> I myself am not on the announce list
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>> Because I never thought the list was informative.
>
> So you made your own decision. That seems to be the business of no one
> else. You choose your distro, you choose your software, you choose
> your mailing list.
>
> -- 
> Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine
> ( www.pembo13.com )
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:35:39 +0930
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: network vs NetworkManger services ??
> To: tim at birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie, For users of Fedora
> <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1219367139.16775.2.camel at suspishus.lan.cameratim.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 18:31 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> it's rather annoying to be told something works automatically
>> if in fact it doesn't work for you.
>> It doesn't leave much room for advice on what to do about it.
>
> The answer's rather obvious:  If it doesn't work for you, then use
> something *else* that's not automatic.  It's *always* been the case that
> automatic /somethings/ aren't suitable for all situations (cars with
> automatic transmissions have problems in some conditions, auto-focus
> lenses make mistakes under many conditions, etc.).
>
> -- 
> [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:08:12 -0400
> From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley at att.net>
> Subject: Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <20080821210812.3a156f40 at zooty>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:28:36 +0900
> Joel Rees <joel.rees at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Because I never thought the list was informative.
>>
>> This is a perception that needs correcting.
>
> Actually, when this all started, I took a look at the
> announce list archives, and came to the definitive conclusion
> that in fact, it really isn't an informative list.
> I mean, even the announcement that started this whole
> mess can't be called informative :-).
>
> What we really need is the fedora-disaster list that
> comes with a guarantee that no message not related to imminent
> peril to all fedora users is ever posted to the list.
> I might consider subscribing to that, but really I still
> think messages of that nature should be cross posted
> to all fedora mailing lists.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:12:11 -1000
> From: "Dave Burns" <tburns at hawaii.edu>
> Subject: Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <943be0b10808211812v6fb9d87by26d0da4865f477f9 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Know what I wish? That posts with the subject "Re: Infrastructure
> status" actually discussed infrastructure status, and that discussions
> of 'how to improve dissemination of info about infrastructure status'
> had a different subject. Though the one I just suggested kinda blows.
> And here I am contributing to the deliquency.
> Dave
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:00:54 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Blog Client
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE16CE.4010000 at fedoraproject.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
>> What is the popular tool to use as a weblog client (for wordpress
>> primarily)?
>
> Drivel
>
> #  yum info drivel
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Available Packages
> Name       : drivel
> Arch       : i386
> Version    : 2.1.1
> Release    : 0.5.20071130svn.fc9
> Size       : 432 k
> Repo       : fedora
> Summary    : A journal or "blog" client
> URL        : http://www.dropline.net/drivel
> License    : GPLv2+
> Description: Drivel is an advanced journal client for the GNOME desktop.
> It had been designed with usability in mind, and presents an elegant
> user interface.
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:05:47 +0930
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1219368947.16775.8.camel at suspishus.lan.cameratim.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 18:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>> I replaced my CD-ROM writer with a DVD-ROM writer, and now
>> automounting of either CD-ROMs or DVD-ROMs no longer takes place.
>> Instead, the CD-Creator gets started up, as it does for a blank
>> writable CD-ROM.
>
> Bad drive?  Does it work anywhere else?
>
> -- 
> [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:36:54 -0700
> From: Srikanth Konjarla <srikanth.konjarla at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Blog Client
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE1836.8060607 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have installed it. But, can't find API support for wordpress. Is it
> supported?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
>>> What is the popular tool to use as a weblog client (for wordpress
>>> primarily)?
>>
>> Drivel
>>
>> #  yum info drivel
>> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
>> Available Packages
>> Name       : drivel
>> Arch       : i386
>> Version    : 2.1.1
>> Release    : 0.5.20071130svn.fc9
>> Size       : 432 k
>> Repo       : fedora
>> Summary    : A journal or "blog" client
>> URL        : http://www.dropline.net/drivel
>> License    : GPLv2+
>> Description: Drivel is an advanced journal client for the GNOME desktop.
>> It had been designed with usability in mind, and presents an elegant
>> user interface.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:17:53 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: Blog Client
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE1AC9.20202 at fedoraproject.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
>> I have installed it. But, can't find API support for wordpress. Is it
>> supported?
>
> Yep. Check this article for details:
>
> http://www.linux.com/feature/58265
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:49:15 -0400
> From: Jim Cornette <fc-cornette at wowway.com>
> Subject: Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
> Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE1B1B.5040700 at wowway.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>
>> Why can't people just read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate
>> and come to a decision on what lists they want to be on? What's with
>> all the hand holding?
>>
> Because the selection of lists is long and the primary lists people
> frequent are adequate to add an additional announcement from time to
> time on important information.
>
> There is no hand holding needed. Send it to the major lists also for
> important information.
>
> Live with it! Not everyone would subscribe to a low traffic and
> generically named list called Announce.
>
> I did sign up for the list a few minutes back. Still, throw important
> information toward the higher subscribed lists.
>
> Jim
>
> -- 
> Were these parsnips CORRECTLY MARINATED in TACO SAUCE?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:22:27 +0800
> From: Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko at greshko.com>
> Subject: Re: Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was
> Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE22E3.6030508 at greshko.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Jim Cornette wrote:
>
>> I did sign up for the list a few minutes back. Still, throw important
>> information toward the higher subscribed lists.
>
> Come to think of it...  There is no reason to subscribe to the "announce"
> list.  When something of great importance happens someone not in the know
> will ask "what is going on" and someone on the "announce" list will repost
> it here.  :-)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:24:15 -0500
> From: Mike McCarty <Mike.McCarty at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Automount of CD-ROMs no longer works
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48AE234F.9000203 at sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Tim wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 18:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>>> I replaced my CD-ROM writer with a DVD-ROM writer, and now
>>> automounting of either CD-ROMs or DVD-ROMs no longer takes place.
>>> Instead, the CD-Creator gets started up, as it does for a blank
>>> writable CD-ROM.
>>
>> Bad drive?  Does it work anywhere else?
>
> Well, that's what I've been wondering. It mounts. It writes CDs
> and DVDs. The CDs look ok on another machine. The DVDs I dunno.
> I can mount them and look around using the same drive. I don't
> have another machine with Linux to test with, however.
>
> Mike
> -- 
> p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}
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> This message made from 100% recycled bits.
> You have found the bank of Larn.
> I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:11:37 -0500
> From: Renich Bon Ciric <renich at woralelandia.com>
> Subject: Re: where are the updates?
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1219371097.4662.4.camel at localhost6.localdomain6>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 04:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> The build system (or more specifically the hosts) has been disabled
>> for
>> about a week now and is not enabled yet although the web interface
>> has
>> been up for the last few days. I expect there will be a announcement
>> when it is ready again.
>>
>> Rahul
>
> Thanks, Rahul, good to know... Hope everything comes out fine.
> -- 
> Renich Bon Ciric
> http://www.woralelandia.com/
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:17:18 -0500
> From: Renich Bon Ciric <renich at woralelandia.com>
> Subject: Re: How to search the Fedora List
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
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> On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 09:41 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> Searching the Fedora List came up in another thread. I thought this
>> important enough information to have a thread of its own. See web link
>> below:
>> http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2
>>
>> --
>> =======================================================================
>> The trouble with computers is that they do what you tell them, not what
>> you want. -- D. Cohen
>> =======================================================================
>> Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam at sbcglobal.net
>>
>
> I'd use the fedora crawler
> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=011057779923588025604%3Aakrqpglozlu
>
> Contributors are welcome.
> -- 
> Renich Bon Ciric
> http://www.woralelandia.com/
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:01:00 -0500
> From: "Adam Hough" <adam at gradientzero.com>
> Subject: Re: Slightly [OT] Network Monitoring/Alerting tools
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
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> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>
>>> Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We do run OpenNMS as well, and it's a good tool, but I was interested 
>>>>> in
>>>>> something /like/ nagios that does monitoring and alerting.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I understand the distinction or why you'd need both. 
>>>> OpenNMS
>>>> is like nagios in some ways, different in some.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, the OpenNMS version we have is older, and it's sitting on a Debian
>>> Sarge box that I want to blow away and install Fedora on.  But that's 
>>> not
>>> the reason for the question.  We run nearly every monitoring tool out 
>>> there,
>>> and my boss is extremely picky. He doesn't really like any of them
>>> completely.  They all have flaws in his mind so he wants to see what 
>>> else
>>> might be available now, that either might not have been 4 years ago, or 
>>> has
>>> greatly improved since then.
>>
>> Well, OpenNMS has certainly improved recently and is still being 
>> developed
>> rapidly.  Don't draw any conclusions from seeing an older version.  Also, 
>> it
>> is very configurable.  It does the obvious stuff out of the box but can 
>> be
>> extended in an assortment of ways.  Plus, if you can use one of the 
>> packaged
>> versions it is much easier to install than a few years ago.
>>
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>
> My only beef with OpenNMS is that it is a polling type monitoring
> system which is fine for say network gear but I would rather have a
> client/server setup for servers that I want to monitor.  OpenNMS from
> what I can tell still does not give me the flexibility that I want or
> need that I get from other system such as Hobbit (BB) or Nagios.
> Though I will admit I had not know all that much about snmp other then
> to make sure that it is turned off on systems I install to give bots
> one less attack point if they make it past my iptable rules in some
> manner.
>
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