Time to upgrade FC8->FC10
Gene Heskett
gene.heskett at verizon.net
Wed Feb 11 21:06:38 UTC 2009
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:31:58AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> So, I'll ask it again: Preupgrade wants to download the install image to
>> the /boot partition. Unforch the F8 installer refuses to allow a /boot
>> partition of over 199 megs, and we all know that image has to be bigger
>> than that. So the question remains: How do I tell preupgrade to use /tmp,
>> or even / as a scratchpad location for this install image download?
>
>I'm not aware of any such limit, and asked a few knowledgeable folks
>who weren't either. What I suspect happened is you tried to create a
>/boot partition in the existing space between the beginning of your
>hard disk, and an existing partition (probably the extended area,
>maybe swap) after it that you weren't blowing away.
The drive was at that point clean when it failed the first time, then I went
back before I started the install again, used fdisk to make a 500MB 1st
partition, a 2gb swap next so it was on the outside fast part of the drive,
and several more partition of various sizes cuz I like /var on its own, /root
on its own/ and /home on its own, but when I restarted the installer and it
put it clear at the end of the disk and kept it there regardless. WTH is it
with this that it also insists that /root cannot be a separate partition, but
must be a subdir of /? Total nonsense, that you cannot even setup a drive
the way you want it, skip that part of the install & just go do it.
I have never figured out why you people hate fdisk so much. Back when you
called it disk druid or some such it was a PIMA, and while the face is now a
lot prettier, it is just as terminally broken in its heart as ever.
>There are a limit
>to what even good heuristics will do to address this problem, and
>having played with the installers for other distros, I don't think
>it's unique to Fedora.
Probably not and will remain so until all are using fdisk or (g)parted to do
the disk configuration.
>You can use parted -- or better yet, one of its GUI cousins -- to deal
>with this problem, but it's not a simple exercise by any means. If
>you're reading this in an interface that uses a fixed-width font, this
>diagram might make sense. Otherwise, it might not:
Perfect here.
>
>.-- beginning of disk end of disk --.
>V V
>
>|=====|==========|=================================================|
>
> /boot swap extended partition (maybe LVM?)
>200 MB 1 GB (rest of disk)
> sda1 sda2 sda3
>
>Some of that 200 MB is taken up by the kernels, initial ramdisks, etc.
>your system has installed. You could remove extra kernels to make
>more space; each set of files takes up somewhere in the neighborhood
>of 8-10 MB, I believe. Then you could try preupgrade. If you tend to
>keep lots of kernels that could be a problem. I thought that the
>amount of data that preupgrade downloads is under 150 MB, but not
>much.
>
>If you reinstalled and chose to reuse that extended area and swap
>as-is, you ended up with limited choices for resizing /boot.
This time it will be on a 400GB deathstar. Distro yet TBD, but likely ubuntu.
>On the other hand, if you did a whole bunch of partition-moving voodoo
>-- and I promise you it's not for the faint of heart, I've done it
>myself, only after a full backup -- you *might* be able to end up with
>
>this:
>|-------|==========|===============================================|
>
> empty swap extended partition
> 300 MB
>
>Now you've got extra space and when you run the installer, you can
>keep the existing partitions and write a bigger /boot as well.
And I just got finished half an hour ago, moving my complete amanda vtape
archive to a new 1TB drive, so yes, you could say I'm reasonably familiar
with such, as long as the supplied tools don't override what I want. In the
F8 case for both installs, they did, either resetting my choices to what they
wanted, or by refusing to recognize them at all.
If I was to reinstall on this drive, I'd just move the end of boot/swap border
in about a half a gig.
>Really, in the interest of time and hair-pulling, in these cases I
>simply tend to back up data and reinstall, setting up the partitions
>in a more useful way for future-proofing. Right now, I'd go for about
>250-300 MB for /boot to ensure that future preupgrades fly without a
>hitch.
And all you have to do is get past the 199meg limit for /boot that the F8
installer insisted on. Use fdisk to set it up bigger, and the installer
would not recognize it.
--
Cheers, Gene
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