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Re: increasing time spent on grub during pm-hibernate



Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> I think that the new kernel will simply refuse to load the hibernated
> image and boot normally (as after an improper shutdown).
>   

Right, but the image will be removed, so what was the point of
hibernation? If you wanted to reboot into the new kernel anyway, a plain
reboot should take less time


> Yes. But if you do not have windows partitions mounted and you hibernate
> and reboot to do something in windows, grub will immediately
> try to resume, you understand what happens and try to shutdown everything
> before the kernel actually runs. If you are lucky you power on
> again, you manage to have to grub menu shown by pressing one key
> and you boot windows and then resume Linux. If you are unlucky,
> the resume image is not usable anymore (the system has been resumed and
> then powered off) and you lose all the session you wanted to
> preserve. 

Also, if you try to use a Live CD, it will most likely try to mount the
swap partition, also potentially destroying the hibernated state.

> And that's an additional case of "inexperienced users
> can do stupid things, so we have to block experienced users
> doing smart things".
> (I used to run tuxonice and this "holding-hands" stuff was not there,
> luckily).
>   

That's what differentiates an amateur project from a polished
professional one. The beginner project relies on the user to be smart
enough to not do these things. But Fedora is used by a lot of different
users, some are not as much computer-literate as you are. It has to put
up guards against them.

I'm not saying that option shouldn't be there, but I do believe it's a
very sensible default.



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