will we ever have radeon drivers that aren't crap?

[Bill Davidsen]

John Mellor wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 20:15 +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, den 23.07.2009, 13:56 -0400 schrieb Robert P. J. Day:
>>> apologies for the unduly harsh tone but, seriously, will there ever
>>> be radeon drivers available for fedora that aren't complete junk?
>>> this has been going on for some time now, and nothing's changed.
>>>
>>>   currently, on my 1280x800 display gateway laptop, i need to run the
>>> vesa driver and get only 1024x768 because, if i try to run the radeon
>>> driver, i'll get my full resolution, and my session will last maybe
>>> 10-15 minutes before finally locking up, at which point the only
>>> response i can get is moving the mouse around the screen verrrrrry
>>> slowly but nothing else, requiring a power cycle.  (the vesa driver
>>> will, of course, work perfectly for days on end.)
>>>
>>>   it's been like this since early in the f11 test cycle, and it
>>> depresses me to think i'll still be fighting with this when the first
>>> cut of f12 comes out.
>>>
>>>   what's the story on video drivers these days?  and why are they such
>>> unmitigated trash?
>>>
>>> </rant>
>>>
>>> rday
>> We had a radeon test day in the Fedora 11 test cycle:
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Radeon_2009-04-01
>> If you had this error in the test cycle, that would've been the right
>> day to report it. My card works fine, by the way. If you want to get it
>> fixed, some information, at least your card model would be nice.
>> Regards,
>> Julian
> 
> Ok, here is one that makes F11 a serious reversion and a total writeoff
> as a desktop at this point:
> ATI HD3650 512MB AGP
> - no 3d support at all, F10 had pretty good 3D

Just ordered a card with that characteristic.

> - shuts down every so often

Haven't seen that on any of my six system here, all using Radeons of various 
type. Your use may differ.

> - slow 2D driver, far better prior to F11 using the RPM Fusion non-free
> driver
> 
I'm told that's an issue with kernel revision, not F11 directly. ATI hasn't 
ported the driver as of the last time I looked.

> I'm not using F11 anymore, as it is far worse that F10.  In F10 I can
> play FPS games beautifully and power management actually works, unlike
> F11.

I don't play any games which use the power management, for useful applications I 
don't know what you see, speed varies, screen brightness changes, etc, on my 
systems.

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