From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

[Bill Davidsen]

Craig White wrote:
> Linuxguy123 wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 12:15 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>>  
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Linuxguy123<linuxguy123 at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>    
>>>> I've been using F11 since it came out and it works great. But I haven't
>>>> had any sound since I did the upgrade.  Sound worked great in F10. Its
>>>> getting old not having sound.  How do I get it working ?
>>>>
>>>>       
>> What is Fedora expecting us to use and what do we need to do to get it
>> working ?
>>
>> Thanks
> ----
> Fedora was expecting to use PulseAudio but you removed that as your 
> predicate. That puts you with a vocal minority who would rather gripe 
> about pulse audio than make it work so it will be up to them to tell you 
> how to solve the sound issues that you 'fixed' by removing pulseaudio 
> package.
> 
Good, then point us to the documentation which describes how to make the 
alsamixer, advanced mixer, PA volume and tabs, and anything else which might 
clarify how to use the four or five sound apps which all interact with each 
other in such a way that sound works without days of fiddling which stop working 
at the next upgrade. PA is too damn fragile to use unless you are one of the few 
who has it work out of the box.

PA should have been an option for whoever has the bizarre obscure problem PA 
solves. And I have not been able to get any reasonable input from mic or line 
with PA on any of five systems, three of which work with SuSE, or Ubuntu, or 
Slackware (that's what the users changed to).

If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it work, which 
is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default.


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