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RE: fedora 11 worst then ever release





Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:30:03 +0800
From: solarflow99 gmail com
To: MathStuf gmail com; fedora-list redhat com
CC: 
Subject: Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release



On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Ben Boeckel  wrote:

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Farkas Levente wrote:



> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox

 wrote:

>

>> "all of my system has a wrong openssl version"

>>

>> all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly

wrong. I've seen

>> preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's

the main reason

>> I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.

>>

>

> i use fedora install dvd in this case! if it's do a half

upgrade then  it's

> also the bug of the installer.

>

>

>> "i already install f11 yum show 2069 packages to update!!!

just one month

>> after the release! my system consist of 2059"

>>

>> In other words your box didn't update to F11 in the first

place, it just

>> updated a few things and exploded, which is what it tends to

do. You were

>> basically running FC10 and a few random bits of FC11.

>

>

> as i wrote i use fedora install dvd! if it's jusr updated a

few things then

> it's also the bug of the installer.



This is a problem with the DVD that is hard to solve. Fully

updated F10 is newer than F11 was when the DVD was spun

(especially when the DVD is a month old)...so not everything got

updated. There was a thread on it earlier on this list. It

either breaks other things to fix or the DVD is just broken to

update from after X days of release.


so you're not the only one with F11 problems, I cant even install it, the bug isn't being looked at either, there nothing I can do.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508465  


I have watched this thread for a couple of days, and finally decided to throw
in my $.02's worth.
1. I had absolutely NO problems with F11's installation. 
2. I did have a problem with the fact that the Kernel does not enable support 
   the Ralink 28xx chipset. I had to recompile the source and enabled it myself.
   However, even eith latest kernel, 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586, it is still not
   enabled, and had to repeat the process of rebuilding it from source.
   That is a huge drag!
3. Audio in 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 stopped working. I had no problems with the
   audio in kernel 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586. What the hell did they do to break
   the audio in this latest kernel update?
4. Oh yes... rebuilding from source:
   My laptop is an AMD Athlon64 (2.2 GHz, 2GB Ram) and 6GB of swap.
   Building the kernel from source    takes HOURES!!!
   I started the build at almost 1 pm, and now it is 5:39 pm, and it still has
   a long way to go:
   $ ps -ef | grep 'make all'
   mk        1889 30589  0 12:57 pts/3    00:00:00 make all modules

   This is the last line I just grabbed from the build window:

   CC [M]  sound/core/seq/seq_fifo.o

   I have never experienced kernel building that took so many hours.

   How many needdless and unneccessary subsystems/modules are configured by
   to be built default??
   I saw so many other posts of user's problems with audio, video, and other
   issues, which are never resolved from release to the next release. It seems
   that the fedora dev team is more interested in testing new features on the
   guinea pig user community. Perhaps that is exactly whet fedora is all
   about.

MK

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