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RE: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

> From: craigwhite azapple com
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:48:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?
> On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:34 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Craig White wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 19:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>>> If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it
>>>> work, which
>>>> is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default.
>>> ----
>>> ignoring the reality that PA works for most people out of the box, I
>>> would agree with you but I can't ignore the reality. It works for me. It
>>> has worked for me on every computer I have installed Fedora on. It works
>>> for me on every computer I have installed Ubuntu on.
>> So tools to correct the cases which don't work out of the box and can't be made
>> to work are not needed because it works most of the time? What do we need this
>> Linux for anyway, after all Windows works most of the time...
> ----
> you make less sense every time you get deeper into this discussion.
> If you think Windows is less trouble, you should use Windows. I don't
> have a problem with that.
> If you think pulse audio is a problem, then don't use it. I have no
> problem with that.
> pulse audio is little more than a collection layer for audio from
> various sources. I am fairly convinced that most of the griping I see on
> this list about pulse audio has less to do with pulse audio than people
> having trouble getting their Intel motherboard audio to work properly.
> Pulseaudio just seems to be a convenient spot to focus one's blame.

Well, not entirely true. I had to stop pulseaudio because it was slowing
down my machine quiet a lot. Top showed it was using between 20 and 38%
of cpu bandwidth. Believe it or not, even after the audio track stopped
playing!! I DO  NOT need a CPU killer audio deamon, thank you.

> I recognize that it is frustrating to have problems, even regressions
> with new releases of Fedora but you have to keep in mind that the
> kernel, the kernel modules and of course the underlying software is
> still in a rapid state of change and the way to make it work for
> yourself and everyone else behind you is to perform diligent bug
> reports.
> If you think that I don't understand these issues, I have had bug
> reports about not being able to boot Optiplex 320's via grub since
> Fedora 7.
> Griping on this list is for losers.
> Craig
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