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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

Farkas Levente wrote:

> first of all i use linux since '94 so i've seen a few releases. and
> learned to wait a few weeks before upgrade. now i try to upgrade from a
> few fully update f10 to f11.
> it's a nightmare!

It seems to me that your problems divide into 2 different categories:

1. Problems with anaconda, ie the actual installation; and

2. Problems with a working system.

For the latter, I haven't found FC-11 much better or worse
than previous versions;
some things have got better, eg NetworkManager and KDE,
others have got worse, eg sound.
(CUPS has also deteriorated slightly, in my experience.)
Some of the system-config programs, eg system-config-network,
which didn't work at all, now work badly.

I don't think anaconda has got worse, at least from FC-10 to FC-11.
But it is certainly not getting better.
I used to read the anaconda-development list,
and in my view the whole approach is misguided,
trying to do more at installation time
rather than simplifying anaconda
so that it works on more or less any machine.

There would be a lot to be said, in my view,
for a much simpler and more basic installation,
followed by a second step taken on a working system.
(Like Windows?)

Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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