gilpel altern org wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> While it is important to you, and important to companies like >> Red Hat, > > So, it's important for Red Hat and until now, your point was that it is > irrelevant to Fedora because Fedora is for experts. So you expect RHEL to > acquire a user base by people getting use to it through CentOS, I suppose. > I guess you do not understand the difference between Red Hat and Fedora. The two are not interchangeable. I expect Red Hat to acquire a user base through Red Hat Enterprise Linux. CentOS and Scientific Linux are two clones of RH Enterprise Linux, without the support. > I've never used CentOS but, getting stuck with the likes of GIMP 2,2 does > sound very appealing to me as a desktop user. > I don't know - it probably appeals to the corporate users because of the support available from Red Hat. > OTOH, I've tried Mint, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, PCLinuxOS, > Slackware and quite a few others, I suppose. > > So far, Fedora is the one that worked best for me. I'm sure, with a 3 page > list of do and don't, most Windows users could get it running. The > question is "Would they go through a 3 page list?" Knowing that there will > be a whole lot more to get accustomed to, wouldn't they wonder why things > aren't done right without the do and don't? > Take a look at Mandriva - it is a lot like Fedora, but without most of the things that bother you. It started as a i686 fork of Red Hat when the i686 machines were state of the art. You keep thinking that Fedora is aimed at people coming over from Windows. If they were a "geek", they might feel at home here. But for a user that wants things to "just work" and is only interesting in getting office work done, or browsing the web, there are better off with another distribution. Fedora getting a large market share would go a long way to drop Linux's overall market share. Let me try this a different way. You are pushing for changes in the direction of Fedora that most of the Fedora community do not want it to take. We do not want a distribution aimed at the average computer. I can just picture the results when an update breaks things. We want people that try to solve the problem, or at lease report it, and do not act like it is the end of the world because they can not do x, y, or z while the problem is worked out. These are the type of people that we encourage to stick around help work out the bugs. This is the group Fedora is targeted at. Not the average user. Most of the things you are complaining about are because of who the distribution is targeted at. When we fix problems, the fixes go back upstream, so hopefully other distributions do not run into the same problem. Sometimes we write the documentation that gets included in later Fedora and other distributions. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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