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Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 19:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it
work, which is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default.
ignoring the reality that PA works for most people out of the box, I
would agree with you but I can't ignore the reality. It works for me. It
has worked for me on every computer I have installed Fedora on. It works
for me on every computer I have installed Ubuntu on.

So tools to correct the cases which don't work out of the box and can't
be made to work are not needed because it works most of the time? What
do we need this Linux for anyway, after all Windows works most of the

There are tools, but they are not really dedicated Pulse Audio
tools. You have to go to the Pulse Audio web side that read the
documentation there. (I don't have the link handy, but I posted it
in this thread already.) The one time I had problems, it was an Alsa
configuration problem after an upgrade... (/etc/asound.conf problem.)

There are things like the Pulse Audio volume meters that can tell
you if the signal is getting to pa. The pa volume control can tell
you a lot more about what is going on. For a lot more information,
but harder to understand, there is the device chooser and audio manager.

When you drop down to the Alsa layer, there are tools like aplay and
amixer. There is also alsa-info. System-config-sound mostly works
with this layer. Then there are the assorted volume controls. I use
the standard Gnome volume control, and it offers different sets of
mixer controls, depending on what level/card you are trying to control.

Yes, it can get complicated, especially if you have several sound
cards, and you want to direct different sources to different cards.
But I think the flexibility is worth it.

If this was optional I might agree, but the assumption that the standard sound config should use seven sound tools and two config files when the typical user has been playing one source to two speakers since 1.2.13/oss days is divorced from reality.

Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
  "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

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