F11: Firefox v3.5.2-2 causes daily system lockouts.

Daniel B. Thurman dant at cdkkt.com
Tue Sep 8 13:54:55 UTC 2009


On 09/07/09 10:13, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 09/07/09 09:33, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>> On 09/06/09 23:51, Terry Barnaby wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2009 10:11 PM, Tony Nelson wrote:
>>>> On 09-09-06 13:20:31, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090803
>>>>> Fedora/3.5.2-2.fc11 Firefox/3.5.2
>>>>>
>>>>> After extensive testing with the divide&  conquer
>>>>> method, I have discovered that FireFox is causing
>>>>> all sorts of hissy-fits, the worst, being a complete
>>>>> system lockout, once per day, requiring a hard-reboot.
>>>>> This is cause during inactivity, and no, it is NOT the
>>>>> Gnome screen-saver.  As long as FF is NOT running,
>>>>> I used my system for 1 week, gnome screen-saver w/
>>>>> random - not a single lockout, no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second worse part about FF is the rendering of
>>>>> the graphics are horrible - extra black lines vertically,
>>>>> horizontally, both on forums with tables, and some
>>>>> weird characters every now and then.
>>>>
>>>> I also see font rendering artifacts, mostly in Firefox, but in other
>>>> apps as well.  I blame the video driver, possibly the EXA 
>>>> acceleration,
>>>> though I haven't tried XAA yet (per `man radeon`).  I have an old ATI
>>>> Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] rev 0.  It could be that your lockups
>>>> have the same cause.
>>>>
>>> I also had quite a lot of lock-ups with a system using an ATI R200 
>>> based graphics chip (and issues with a R300 ATI stsrem). I suspect 
>>> that the
>>> fact that you use Firefox a lot leads you to suspect Firefox 
>>> although the
>>> problem affects many other apps ...
>>> In my case compiling and using the latest freedesktop 
>>> drm/mesa/xf86-video-ati
>>> graphics driver code from git sources fixed the issues.
>>> Unfortunately there have been no drm/mesa/xf86-video-ati updates for
>>> Fedora 11 yet ...
>>>
>> I don't use Firefox alot.  The point of all of this is
>> that if you leave firefox running, the very moment
>> that your system idles and goes into screenlock, it's
>> all over. You cannot get back in. You are forced to
>> reboot.
>>
>> Likewise if you kill Firefox for the day or night,
>> the system will idle, go in screenlock, and you
>> can get back in after typing your password.
>>
>> I have tested Thunderbird, and it does not cause
>> lockouts.  I have tested other browsers, same thing,
>> no lockouts.
>>
>> The culprit is Firefox v3.5.2-2, or so I think.
>>
>> I am going to downgrade FF to 3.4, if that does not work,
>> 3.0 or just throw it away completely,  Firefox has changed
>> many things including the API (XULRunner) and has not
>> tested this release fully, IMO, at least with the 945G/GZ
>> graphics chip, anyway.
>>
>> I have F10 (Multi-boot) and do not have these kind of problems.
>>
>> I have a feeling F10/11 is deja-vue all over again... get it out and
>> let the end-users test & troubleshoot our problems! Oy veh!
>>
>
> I removed F11-FF v3.5.2-2 and installed F10-FF v3.5.2-1 on F11:
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U;
> Linux i686; en-US;
> v:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090804 Remi/fc10 Firefox/3.5.2-1
>
> Rendering problems went away.  I'll let
> you know about lockouts by tomorrow.
>
Ok, FF v3.5.2-1 works.  No rendering problems and no
lockup problems.  It says that -2 fixes security problems
in XULRunnner - however - it screwed up other things
quite severely as in my case.  I'm staying with -1 until
the next release.




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