I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!? [SOLVED - kinda]

[Todd Zullinger]

Hi Bill,

William Case wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:11 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>
>> Have you checked the Received headers of the messages in question?
>
> No I hadn't.  I am not sure what I would be looking for.

Ahh.  Well, you'd want to follow the received headers to watch as each
mail server passed the mail along.  There will be date stamps.  It can
often be useful to note when there is a long delay where it occurs, as
it can tell you who's system is letting the mail sit.

Let's take a look here...

> a) instant re-send from fedora list.
[...]
> Received: from 209.132.177.33  (EHLO hormel.redhat.com) (209.132.177.33)
>  by mta108.rog.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:59:52 -0700
> Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com
>  [10.8.4.110]) by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CAA618E65;
>  Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:15 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com
>  (nat-pool.util.phx.redhat.com [10.8.5.200]) by listman.util.phx.redhat.com
>  (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8RKZCNU006740 for
>  <fedora-list at listman.util.phx.redhat.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:12 -0400
> Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com
>  [10.5.110.8]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8)
>  with ESMTP id n8RKZB8f011863 for <fedora-list at redhat.com>;
>  Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:12 -0400
> Received: from smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com
>  (smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.224.74]) by mx1.redhat.com
>  (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n8RKYxXu024407 for <fedora-list at redhat.com>;
>  Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:00 -0400
> Received: (qmail 82241 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 20:34:59 -0000
[...]
> Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (billlinux at 99.245.242.191
>  with plain) by smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP;
>  27 Sep 2009 20:34:59 -0000

The headers are generally added on top, so the last one in the list
above is you connecting to your SMTP server to send the mail.  That
happened at 20:34:59 -0000 (or 16:34:59 EDT).  It went from there to
another yahoo.com server before getting to redhat.com and winding
through the mailman listserver software and coming back out of
redhat.com to yahoo at 13:59:52 -0700 (or 16:59:52 EDT).  So this had
about a 25 minute round trip.

> b) 20+ hour delay re-send from fedora list.
> Received: from 209.132.177.33  (EHLO hormel.redhat.com) (209.132.177.33)
>  by mta108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:16:33 -0700
> Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com
>  [10.8.4.110]) by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89821619323;
>  Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com
>  (nat-pool.util.phx.redhat.com [10.8.5.200]) by listman.util.phx.redhat.com
>  (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8S1EsKx007371 for
>  <fedora-list at listman.util.phx.redhat.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:54 -0400
> Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com
>  [10.5.110.7]) by int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8)
>  with ESMTP id n8S1Esu5031734 for <fedora-list at redhat.com>;
>  Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:54 -0400
> Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com
>  (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.redhat.com
>  (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n8S1EgDh031989 for <fedora-list at redhat.com>;
>  Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:42 -0400
> Received: (qmail 52082 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2009 01:14:42 -0000
[...]
> Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (billlinux at 99.245.242.191
>  with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP;
>  28 Sep 2009 01:14:41 -0000

This one was sent at 01:14:41 -0000 (or 21:14:41 EDT) and arrived back
at yahoo.com at 19:16:33 -0700 (or 22:16:33 EDT).  So it only had a 1
hour delay.  If it took 20 hours for you to see it, the problem surely
didn't have anything to do with the list software.  It would be with
yahoo.com or something local to your system (I don't know if you're
reading this via webmail or fetching it via POP3 or IMAP).

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