From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 08:25:01 2005 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:25:01 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20050831160108.EB1CB73D65@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050831160108.EB1CB73D65@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: > glib-gettextize is in glib2-devel, when you install it, everything should be > OK. yes, that was it for sure, thanks. Is the following necessary: Please add the files codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 progtest.m4 from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. -- Cheers, Filip Tsachev Technical Department www.infodesign.bg F-Secure Business Partner From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 1 08:30:51 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:30:51 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: <20050831160108.EB1CB73D65@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1125563451.3187.238.camel@agree-6> On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 11:25 +0300, Filip Tsachev wrote: > Please add the files > codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 > progtest.m4 > from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory > or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. > You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. I didn't bother with them and things still worked fine. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 1 08:40:34 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:40:34 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Performance Message-ID: <1125564034.3187.249.camel@agree-6> I have been having fun customising my kiosk CD. I may have gone about things the wrong way but I am making progress. For most stuff I added a script to post_install_scripts /usr/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/99MyStuff.sh I got a little caught out by some of the other scripts, 05fsclean.py for example deletes everything from /root, when I had already put files into using an RPM. The resulting CD is nearly doing everything I want it to. It may be worthwhile thinking about how to improve the performance by coping more stuff into the RAM Disk. In my case there is a trade off between the initial boot speed and the speed of the application. If it takes too long to boot because of the copies, the users will get annoyed. It seems somehow better to have things actually happening on the screen even though they are a little sluggish to start with. NB: The kernel does a great job of making things faster by using the free ram for caching. This again may need some experimentation, maybe by making the ram disk smaller the kernel can cache more and the overall performance may be better. PS: I am using VMWare for prototyping the CD and would highly recommend it. As soon as the iso image has been written I can boot it in a virtual machine. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 16:52:05 2005 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:52:05 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] virtual machine In-Reply-To: <20050901160110.1498673F97@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050901160110.1498673F97@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: > PS: I am using VMWare for prototyping the CD and would highly recommend > it. As soon as the iso image has been written I can boot it in a virtual > machine. probably Xen or qemu could do the same job for free - not that I'm fully aware of their respective capabilities, the speed running it on VMWare differs from an actual boot as you know. I'd also like to know how to make it to ask for/or probe itseft for the amount of ram to determine the right part for ramdisk and cache. -- Cheers, Filip Tsachev Technical Department www.infodesign.bg F-Secure Business Partner From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 1 19:09:24 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 07:09:24 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] virtual machine In-Reply-To: References: <20050901160110.1498673F97@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1125601764.3187.256.camel@agree-6> On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 19:52 +0300, Filip Tsachev wrote: > > PS: I am using VMWare for prototyping the CD and would highly recommend > > it. As soon as the iso image has been written I can boot it in a virtual > > machine. > > probably Xen or qemu could do the same job for free - not that I'm > fully aware of their respective capabilities, the speed running it on > VMWare differs from an actual boot as you know. I'd also like to know > how to make it to ask for/or probe itseft for the amount of ram to > determine the right part for ramdisk and cache. I was more advocating the method rather than the product, all though I do like VMWare. I already had it so I used it, I think I will have a look at Xen and qemu as well. I have been giving the caching vs ramfs idea some more thought and am not sure whether there is really any significant benefit in moving files to the ram drive. My understanding is that the 2.6 kernel will use all available ram for disk buffers. So if a file/program has been read off of the CD once, is there any difference between reading it a 2nd time from a ramfs or already having it is the disk buffers. Glen -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From moe at blagblagblag.org Thu Sep 1 20:03:50 2005 From: moe at blagblagblag.org (jeff) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:03:50 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Performance In-Reply-To: <1125564034.3187.249.camel@agree-6> References: <1125564034.3187.249.camel@agree-6> Message-ID: <43175EA6.5080309@blagblagblag.org> Glen Eustace wrote: > It may be worthwhile thinking about how to improve the performance by > coping more stuff into the RAM Disk. In my case there is a trade off > between the initial boot speed and the speed of the application. If it > takes too long to boot because of the copies, the users will get > annoyed. It seems somehow better to have things actually happening on > the screen even though they are a little sluggish to start with. For performance a few things have come to mind. 1) What about running the prelinker in the chroot before the ISO is rolled? 2) Currently mkzftree is using -z 3 for compression. What is the tradeoff between -z 9 and -z 3? Certainly it will take longer to compress, but what about decompression--is it much of a CPU hit? It seems the bottleneck is reading from the CD--it's not CPU bound doing decompression (unless on a really old box). So if the files were smaller there would be less data to read in and hence the CD would run faster. 3) Also, since mkzftree is one of the most time consuming processes, it would be nice if you could pass a -p option to it (parallelize). 4) By listening to the booting of the CD, it sounds like the head of the CD drive seeks quite a bit. Is there any optimization we can do so the CD can be read (more) sequentially? =============== It would be nice if there was an option to kadischi to either keep or remove the built dirs (e.g. -k == keep build tree). It's nice to poke around in those. What's up with setting the video resolution? I haven't investigated this yet, but I've been getting a very low resolution (640x480 or maybe 800x600). How can kudzu set a higher resolution? Can this be passed at the boot: prompt? In livecd-mkinitrd.sh it makes symlinks for busybox applications. It would be handy if it symlinked for all the programs busybox is compiled with. It won't take more space, but make the initrd more "featureful" at zero cost. I did a chroot into the build dir and something as simple as "adduser" didn't work. It returned without error, but the user wasn't added. I didn't look into why yet, but anyone have an idea? Perhaps updatedb could be run, if slocate is installed. Also, re: ash/sash from a few days ago, I haven't fully tested it, but since ash is just a busybox symlink I don't think ash/sash needs to be on the CD (which is what I initially thought). Thanks again! -Jeff P.S. I'll 'zilla some of the above if they don't get shot down here. From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 1 20:48:20 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 08:48:20 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Performance In-Reply-To: <43175EA6.5080309@blagblagblag.org> References: <1125564034.3187.249.camel@agree-6> <43175EA6.5080309@blagblagblag.org> Message-ID: <1125607700.3341.201.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 14:03 -0600, jeff wrote: > 2) Currently mkzftree is using -z 3 for compression. What is the > tradeoff between -z 9 and -z 3? Certainly it will take longer to > compress, but what about decompression--is it much of a CPU hit? It > seems the bottleneck is reading from the CD--it's not CPU bound doing > decompression (unless on a really old box). So if the files were smaller > there would be less data to read in and hence the CD would run faster. Is squashfs going to be a better solution ? My first venture into LiveCDs was using the YETAA stuff (ADIOS). They have used squashfs and it seemed to work quite well. It did mean having to add it to the kernel. Anyone know what the plans are for having squashfs included in the std kernel ? > It would be nice if there was an option to kadischi to either keep or > remove the built dirs (e.g. -k == keep build tree). It's nice to poke > around in those. I second this :-) I wonder whether 'breaking' kadischi up into phases, similiar to rpmbuild would be a useful model e.g. -ba -bb, -bi, -bp All, Burn, ISO, Prep One can then do as much or as little of the process as you need/want. Glen. From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Sep 1 20:56:16 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:26:16 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Performance In-Reply-To: <1125607700.3341.201.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> References: <1125564034.3187.249.camel@agree-6> <43175EA6.5080309@blagblagblag.org> <1125607700.3341.201.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <43176AF0.1020306@redhat.com> Glen Eustace wrote: >On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 14:03 -0600, jeff wrote: > > >>2) Currently mkzftree is using -z 3 for compression. What is the >>tradeoff between -z 9 and -z 3? Certainly it will take longer to >>compress, but what about decompression--is it much of a CPU hit? It >>seems the bottleneck is reading from the CD--it's not CPU bound doing >>decompression (unless on a really old box). So if the files were smaller >>there would be less data to read in and hence the CD would run faster. >> >> > >Is squashfs going to be a better solution ? >My first venture into LiveCDs was using the YETAA stuff (ADIOS). They >have used squashfs and it seemed to work quite well. It did mean having >to add it to the kernel. Anyone know what the plans are for having >squashfs included in the std kernel ? > Squashfs was submitted to LKML recently and there was some discussions surrouding that. It is a likely candidate for the upstream kernel and is under use by several other Live CD solutions regards Rahul From 13640887 at sun.ac.za Thu Sep 1 23:27:10 2005 From: 13640887 at sun.ac.za (Albert Strasheim) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:27:10 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] virtual machine In-Reply-To: References: <20050901160110.1498673F97@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050901232710.GA19990@dogbert.sdsl.sun.ac.za> Hello all I've been using Xen to do some tests of my own (I'm working on modifying Kadischi to support building installs for USB flash devices). http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstart has everything you need to get up and running. One thing to note is that Xen does not boot via an initrd as far as I can see. Cheers Albert On Thu, 01 Sep 2005, Filip Tsachev wrote: > > PS: I am using VMWare for prototyping the CD and would highly recommend > > it. As soon as the iso image has been written I can boot it in a virtual > > machine. > > probably Xen or qemu could do the same job for free - not that I'm > fully aware of their respective capabilities, the speed running it on > VMWare differs from an actual boot as you know. I'd also like to know > how to make it to ask for/or probe itseft for the amount of ram to > determine the right part for ramdisk and cache. > -- > Cheers, > Filip Tsachev > > Technical Department > www.infodesign.bg > F-Secure Business Partner From 13640887 at sun.ac.za Thu Sep 1 23:32:32 2005 From: 13640887 at sun.ac.za (Albert Strasheim) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:32:32 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Performance In-Reply-To: <43175EA6.5080309@blagblagblag.org> References: <1125564034.3187.249.camel@agree-6> <43175EA6.5080309@blagblagblag.org> Message-ID: <20050901233231.GB19990@dogbert.sdsl.sun.ac.za> Hello all On Thu, 01 Sep 2005, jeff wrote: > Glen Eustace wrote: > >It may be worthwhile thinking about how to improve the performance by > >coping more stuff into the RAM Disk. In my case there is a trade off > >between the initial boot speed and the speed of the application. If it > >takes too long to boot because of the copies, the users will get > >annoyed. It seems somehow better to have things actually happening on > >the screen even though they are a little sluggish to start with. > > For performance a few things have come to mind. > > 1) What about running the prelinker in the chroot before the ISO is rolled? Cool idea. > > 4) By listening to the booting of the CD, it sounds like the head of the > CD drive seeks quite a bit. Is there any optimization we can do so the > CD can be read (more) sequentially? mkisofs and SquashFS both support the idea of prioritising files to indicate where they should be placed on the image (see the -sort option in the mkisofs man page). This way, you can determine whether files are added to the start of the image, i.e. the middle of the CD, where reading them is slow, or at the end of the image, i.e. the edge of the image, where reading is faster. If we can find a way of instrumenting the boot process to get a list of files used during boot, a priority list can be built automatically. The boot files can probably be followed by everything in the bin and lib directories and then the remaining biggest files in the installation. Cheers Albert From katzj at redhat.com Fri Sep 2 01:48:01 2005 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:48:01 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] virtual machine In-Reply-To: <20050901232710.GA19990@dogbert.sdsl.sun.ac.za> References: <20050901160110.1498673F97@hormel.redhat.com> <20050901232710.GA19990@dogbert.sdsl.sun.ac.za> Message-ID: <1125625681.2569.120.camel@bree.local.net> On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 01:27 +0200, Albert Strasheim wrote: > One thing to note is that Xen does not boot via an initrd as far as I > can see. An initrd can be specified (put initrd= in your domain config file). But with the current kernel configs, it's not needed. This will change in the future as the Xen toolset gets meshed out some Jeremy From anthony.menasse at rsp.com.au Fri Sep 2 04:31:47 2005 From: anthony.menasse at rsp.com.au (Anthony Menasse) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:31:47 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core 3 and Kadischi Message-ID: <4317D5B3.3010308@rsp.com.au> Hi , I found that in order to get the current version of kadischi working with FC3 , which comes with python 2.3 i had to change all of the rsplit string methods to split After this it worked fine and i was able to build a FC3 live cd on my FC3 box. I was going to file this is a bug, but i guess its not really as kadischi is built for FC4? FC3 support would be usefull as alot of people are still running FC3 . Thanks Anthony -- anthony menasse systems administrator - anthony.menasse at rsp.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------- rising sun pictures - www.rsp.com.au redefining visual effects delivery ---------------------------------------------------------------- direct line +61 2 9338 6454 mobile ph +61 419 259 993 ---------------------------------------------------------------- our adelaide phone number & address has changed, please update your records.......... ---------------------------------------------------------------- adl ph +61 8 8400 6400 - fx +61 8 8400 6401 level 1, 133 gouger street, adelaide, 5034 ---------------------------------------------------------------- syd ph +61 2 9338 6400 - fx +61 2 9338 6401 15/16 charles street east redfern, sydney, 2016 ---------------------------------------------------------------- rising sun research - http://research.rsp.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------- From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Sep 4 21:47:03 2005 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] LiveCD creation with kadischi Message-ID: <431B6B57.7090300@adelphia.net> I have built a few LiveCDs and tested them, however I am running into some problems. After booting the new LiveCD, I get a metric ton of tar: timestamp is XXXX amount of time in the future, which may not be critical, but I need to clean that up, so to provide friends with an acceptable LiveCD. I also get a touch /.filename failed : Read-Only filesystem error. I would like some input on that also. The other problem I face, is that, the CD seems to always start in runlevel 3, and when I try to switch runlevel to 5 I get some DriveReadySeek Complete Errors in a loop that cannot be stopped. My main goal is to build a LiveCD that runs FluxBox, however even Gnome won't start because of this error. Thanks for any input, maybe I can work closely with one of you, and be able to provide a highly customized Fedora-based LiveCD to provide to some of my friends. From gdk at redhat.com Thu Sep 8 20:34:13 2005 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? Message-ID: Thanks to the efforts of Darko Ilic and those who supported him / went before him, we now have a spiffy tool that creates Fedora-based Live CDs. Now what? Well, I think it's time to start using Kadischi to create some Live CDs, and thinking about whether we can bless these Live CDs with the Fedora name, that's what. Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would think. Good idea or bad idea? Let's hear it, folks. I'm looking for opinions. I'm also looking for Live CDs to download. :) --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Sep 8 21:39:12 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 03:09:12 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4320AF80.3050602@redhat.com> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >Thanks to the efforts of Darko Ilic and those who supported him / went >before him, we now have a spiffy tool that creates Fedora-based Live CDs. > >Now what? > >Well, I think it's time to start using Kadischi to create some Live CDs, >and thinking about whether we can bless these Live CDs with the Fedora >name, that's what. > >Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would >think. > >Good idea or bad idea? Let's hear it, folks. I'm looking for opinions. >I'm also looking for Live CDs to download. :) > Here are some possibilities * Different DE's - GNOME, KDE, XFCE, fluxbox * Edutainment * Games * Security - SELinux strict, MCS, MLS * Niche - Pro audio, RT etc regards Rahul From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 8 21:55:28 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:55:28 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1126216528.3116.11.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 16:34 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Thanks to the efforts of Darko Ilic and those who supported him / went > before him, we now have a spiffy tool that creates Fedora-based Live CDs. > > Now what? I would suggest that what has been produced is great but that it has a way to go before I would call it ready for the masses. > Well, I think it's time to start using Kadischi to create some Live CDs, > and thinking about whether we can bless these Live CDs with the Fedora > name, that's what. If the tool is easy to use, then it is probably better to let people simply build what they want. > Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would > think. This is an interesting one. As it stands, the build works from a single repo. To add in Extras means changes either in the way either anaconda and/or kadishi work. But it is a good idea. At this time, I have had to manually merge fedora, fedora-updates and some of my own rpms to produce a single repo that the CD can be built from. From gdk at redhat.com Thu Sep 8 22:04:32 2005 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? In-Reply-To: <1126216528.3116.11.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> References: <1126216528.3116.11.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Glen Eustace wrote: > On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 16:34 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > Thanks to the efforts of Darko Ilic and those who supported him / went > > before him, we now have a spiffy tool that creates Fedora-based Live CDs. > > > > Now what? > > I would suggest that what has been produced is great but that it has a > way to go before I would call it ready for the masses. Ah. Critique. Excellent. :) But let's be specific. Which component needs work, Kadischi or the Live CD that Kadischi produces, or both? And are there bug reports in particular? > > Well, I think it's time to start using Kadischi to create some Live CDs, > > and thinking about whether we can bless these Live CDs with the Fedora > > name, that's what. > > If the tool is easy to use, then it is probably better to let people > simply build what they want. Oh, absolutely. But having some "best in show" candidates is a good idea too, don't you think? > > Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would > > think. > > This is an interesting one. As it stands, the build works from a single > repo. To add in Extras means changes either in the way either anaconda > and/or kadishi work. > > But it is a good idea. At this time, I have had to manually merge > fedora, fedora-updates and some of my own rpms to produce a single repo > that the CD can be built from. And how did you do that? Did you put together a nifty HOWTO? :) --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 8 22:33:04 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:33:04 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? In-Reply-To: References: <1126216528.3116.11.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1126218784.3116.24.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> > But let's be specific. Which component needs work, Kadischi or the Live > CD that Kadischi produces, or both? And are there bug reports in > particular? I have made a number of suggestions on this list, as have others about things that might be improved. They aren't necessarily bugs. 1. Splitting the process into phases like rpmbuild 2. Defining a customisation precedure/process. 3. Running prelink on the resulting CD before burn 4. I would add running depmod as well, I have added kernel modules. 5. Splitting the 'Base' rpm list into a 'Core' + others so that a minimal CD is easier to produce. 6. Maybe using squashfs instead of zisofs 7. Sorting files to better optimize the CD. > Oh, absolutely. But having some "best in show" candidates is a good idea > too, don't you think? Yes. My suggestions would include such things as; Network Diagnostics/Toolbox Quagga Router > > But it is a good idea. At this time, I have had to manually merge > > fedora, fedora-updates and some of my own rpms to produce a single repo > > that the CD can be built from. > > And how did you do that? Did you put together a nifty HOWTO? :) No, as I was hoping there was a better method than what I used. I believe I have mentioned in an earlier email that managing the repo(s) is something that possibly warrants more work. I haven't volunteered to do it as I am sure that there a people who know more about such things than I do. Glen. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Sep 9 12:30:47 2005 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:30:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] LiveCD suggestions? Message-ID: <43218077.9050707@adelphia.net> I need a bit of help with the LiveCD process. When I boot the finished LiveCD I get tar: timestamp errors that it is xxx amount of time in the future. I also get a touch: /.autorelabel : Read only filesystem error, this can be fixed by removing the rc.sysinit part that does this, and just adding /.autorelabel to the tree.. but I paused kadischi, and in the builddir in compressed and system, rc.sysinit does not exist yet. I need to know where rc.sysinit ois coming from so I can make changes to it, don't worry, it will be a single CD build, that isn't going to bear the Fedora name. I am using kadischi however. I need to add a generic xorg.conf to /etc/X11 alos, but that directory doesn't exist either, I need to know what to do to add a simple generic xorg.conf. Also, for those confused about what you do to add extra packages to your personal LiveCD, you would insert the .rps into Fedora/RPMS, and edit Fedora/base/comps.xml. Then run genhdlist and run kadischi. Simple really. Thank you guys for this tool, it gives me something to play with in my free time. Jasper Hartline jasperhartline at adelphia.net From sgrubb at redhat.com Fri Sep 9 12:58:15 2005 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 08:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200509090858.15206.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:34, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Well, I think it's time to start using Kadischi to create some Live CDs, > and thinking about whether we can bless these Live CDs with the Fedora > name, that's what. > > Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would > think. > > Good idea or bad idea? ?Let's hear it, folks. ?I'm looking for opinions. Maybe this should be publicized on the fedora-devel mail list to get some more eyes looking at it. I would envision that several livecd's be made oriented around certain themes: productivity/desktop, system recovery/forensics, server/console only, internet kiosk, firewall, scientific, games. These would represent package selections that others could use as a starting point and further customize. -Steve From 13640887 at sun.ac.za Sat Sep 10 14:32:49 2005 From: 13640887 at sun.ac.za (Albert Strasheim) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:32:49 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] OK, folks, where to now? In-Reply-To: References: <1126216528.3116.11.camel@it026591.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20050910143249.GA9368@dogbert.sdsl.sun.ac.za> Hello I would like to propose a slightly different approach to implementing Kadischi. Currently, Kadischi calls Anaconda from the command line. This is not very flexible. In fact, I would go so far as to say that is never going to be flexible enough (take a look at /usr/sbin/anaconda and you might agree that nobody wants to add any more code in there). If Kadishi is built at the same level as /usr/sbin/anaconda, i.e. as a script that uses the Anaconda modules, I think it can be made much more flexible. The Xen folks are also looking for an installer, and if you replace the part where Kadischi makes an ISO and with something that makes an ext3 image, you have that. Anaconda needs some work to make this easier to do. The main thing I can think about here is that the list of install steps are currently hardcoded. If an interface can be created to add install steps, Kadischi can do everything within the Anaconda framework. Another potential problem with Kadischi is that it depends on the system Anaconda. This means that Kadischi on a Fedora Core 5 system can probably only make CDs (or USB images, or ext3 images) for Fedora Core 5, especially if you take into account things like the yum backend changes that are currently ongoing. USB images are especially interesting, since Kadischi offers a way (using some kickstart cleverness), to make installations that are only about 200 or 300 MB. This is very useful for embedded applications. I think there are ways that the project can be organised so that it can be useful to a wider audience. Think CentOS CDs and RHEL 4 Xen images, etc. This would involve making a version of Kadischi available that includes a specific version of Anaconda. For example, if I download "kadischi-10.2", I get something that can install any bundle of RPMS that work with an Anaconda 10.2 installer (so that covers at least Fedora Core 3 and 4, CentOS 4 and RHEL 4). I look forward to your comments. Regards Albert P.S. I've attached some code I've been working on. This is basically /usr/sbin/anaconda with all the "physical hardware" installation stuff removed. I tested command line, text and graphical installation with Anaconda 10.2.1.5-2. There seems to be some issues with the graphical installation and pygtk2 2.4.2, so downgrade to 2.4.0 if you have any problems. You might run the script as follows: mkdir /tmp/sysimage /opt/kadischi/usr/sbin/kadischi \ --noselinux \ --rootpath=/tmp/sysimage \ -m nfs://foo/bar/fedora/4/i386/os \ --logfile=/tmp/kadischi.log \ --text \ --kickstart /opt/kadischi/ks.cfg You'll see that I've found a way to override some Anaconda modules. This will be useful if Kadischi requires changes to Anaconda that cannot be integrated into Anaconda immediately. The included ks.cfg creates a 218 MB FC 4 install. On Thu, 08 Sep 2005, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Glen Eustace wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 16:34 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > Thanks to the efforts of Darko Ilic and those who supported him / went > > > before him, we now have a spiffy tool that creates Fedora-based Live CDs. > > > > > > Now what? > > > > I would suggest that what has been produced is great but that it has a > > way to go before I would call it ready for the masses. > > Ah. Critique. Excellent. :) > > But let's be specific. Which component needs work, Kadischi or the Live > CD that Kadischi produces, or both? And are there bug reports in > particular? > > > > Well, I think it's time to start using Kadischi to create some Live CDs, > > > and thinking about whether we can bless these Live CDs with the Fedora > > > name, that's what. > > > > If the tool is easy to use, then it is probably better to let people > > simply build what they want. > > Oh, absolutely. But having some "best in show" candidates is a good idea > too, don't you think? > > > > Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would > > > think. > > > > This is an interesting one. As it stands, the build works from a single > > repo. To add in Extras means changes either in the way either anaconda > > and/or kadishi work. > > > > But it is a good idea. At this time, I have had to manually merge > > fedora, fedora-updates and some of my own rpms to produce a single repo > > that the CD can be built from. > > And how did you do that? Did you put together a nifty HOWTO? :) > > --g > > _____________________ ____________________________________________ > Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have > Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the > Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the > ] [ dumb. --mcluhan > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The other class of live CDs types is try-before-buying^Winstalling aka demos, while there certainly is overlap. I guess a kiosk CD might also become very popular, the other two address experts. > Any packages in Core+Extras for FC4 would probably be fair game, I would > think. > > Good idea or bad idea? Let's hear it, folks. I'm looking for opinions. > I'm also looking for Live CDs to download. :) > > > _____________________ ____________________________________________ > Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have > Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the > Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the > ] [ dumb. --mcluhan > -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > OK, so I know that some of you out there have actually *used* Kadischi > now. Link yours in by putting the URL on the wiki: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD I can't edit the page, but BLAG made an FC4-based LiveCD with Kadischi: ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/linux/40000/en/iso -Jeff From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Sep 13 21:20:24 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:50:24 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Got a LiveCD built using Kadischi? Give us a URL! In-Reply-To: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> References: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> Message-ID: <43274298.30009@redhat.com> jeff wrote: > Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > >> OK, so I know that some of you out there have actually *used* >> Kadischi now. Link yours in by putting the URL on the wiki: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD > > > I can't edit the page, but BLAG made an FC4-based LiveCD with KadOfischi: > > ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/linux/40000/en/iso > > -Jeff Kindly register in the wiki and let me know your user name offlist and I will add you to the edit group. You will be able to edit the wiki and add pointers after that. Offers applies to everyone working with Kadishi. Will expire soon. Hurry! regards Rahul From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Sep 14 04:01:49 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:31:49 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Got a LiveCD built using Kadischi? Give us a URL! In-Reply-To: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> References: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> Message-ID: <4327A0AD.1000206@redhat.com> jeff wrote: > Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > >> OK, so I know that some of you out there have actually *used* >> Kadischi now. Link yours in by putting the URL on the wiki: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD > > > I can't edit the page, but BLAG made an FC4-based LiveCD with Kadischi: > > ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/linux/40000/en/iso Just give this one a test run. Worked out fine. Bootup and application startup speeds were pretty low. . Ran into a couple of minor bugs with initscript trying to relabel the filesystem and running fonts cache both of which failed due to the storage being read only. I didnt like the theme or the icon set but thats a subjective taste A comprehensive set of differences in the packages and other customisations you have made would very useful. I would also like to know about your previous Live CD efforts and experiences and if you see an oppurtunity for colloboration. For example, code improvements or features the tool and Live CD could use. Just throwing out an idea regards Rahul From moe at blagblagblag.org Wed Sep 14 21:52:14 2005 From: moe at blagblagblag.org (jeff) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:52:14 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Got a LiveCD built using Kadischi? Give us a URL! In-Reply-To: <4327A0AD.1000206@redhat.com> References: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> <4327A0AD.1000206@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43289B8E.2050404@blagblagblag.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > jeff wrote: > >> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >> >>> OK, so I know that some of you out there have actually *used* >>> Kadischi now. Link yours in by putting the URL on the wiki: >>> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD >> >> ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/linux/40000/en/iso > > Just give this one a test run. Worked out fine. Bootup and application > startup speeds were pretty low. Yes. It's starting all sorts of unneeded services too. Perhaps the prelinker would speed this up (?). > . Ran into a couple of minor bugs with > initscript trying to relabel the filesystem and running fonts cache both > of which failed due to the storage being read only. I didnt like the > theme or the icon set but thats a subjective taste Ya, there are a number of things on boot and during running that need fixing. This was definitely a "quickie". > A comprehensive set of differences in the packages and other > customisations you have made would very useful. Most packages are either FC, FC-extras, or RPMforge. If they are custom blag ones, they have "blag" in the name (e.g. initscripts-8.11.1-1blag.fc4.i386.rpm). The SRPMS for all packages are available on our ftp site. Note, most of the changes I made are very cheeep. ;) > I would also like to > know about your previous Live CD efforts and experiences Years ago I did a very small live CD for wireless routers. Definitely an "in-house" project though. I spent a small amount of time looking at options for making FC-based livecds, but I put the project off until kadischi came along and solved it for me. :) I should also note that I have been working on BLAG, a FC/RH-based distro, since RH7.3 (and using RH itself since the beginning). > and if you see > an oppurtunity for colloboration. For example, code improvements or > features the tool and Live CD could use. Just throwing out an idea I'll definitely forward ideas and fixes I come across to this list or 'zilla. If you check the archives I've sent a few already. I also did another "brainstorm" LiveCD that I haven't made public--I just wanted to test out the idea. Basically, the minimal live cd (220 megs currently) boots up and just starts X and metacity. It then connects via NX (or VNC) to a remote box which presents a GDM login screen. The user logs in and does whatever they want to do--but the whole session is running on a remote machine. Using NX, it's quite fast and is usable with VNC. I plan to refine this LiveCD (called BLAGSQUAT) so people without computers have a "permanent" desktop and place to store their files. They can go from cafe to cafe, boot up the live CD, login, and all their files/bookmarks/etc are there. :) Later, -Jeff From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Sep 15 07:16:33 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:46:33 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Got a LiveCD built using Kadischi? Give us a URL! In-Reply-To: <43289B8E.2050404@blagblagblag.org> References: <432741BD.8040806@blagblagblag.org> <4327A0AD.1000206@redhat.com> <43289B8E.2050404@blagblagblag.org> Message-ID: <43291FD1.4060705@redhat.com> Hi > Yes. It's starting all sorts of unneeded services too. > > Perhaps the prelinker would speed this up (?). Yes. There is also preload. Check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBounties. Might need some modifications for a Live CD > > Basically, the minimal live cd (220 megs currently) boots up and just > starts X and metacity. It then connects via NX (or VNC) to a remote > box which presents a GDM login screen. The user logs in and does > whatever they want to do--but the whole session is running on a remote > machine. Using NX, it's quite fast and is usable with VNC. > > I plan to refine this LiveCD (called BLAGSQUAT) so people without > computers have a "permanent" desktop and place to store their files. > They can go from cafe to cafe, boot up the live CD, login, and all > their files/bookmarks/etc are there. :) Reminds me of the Stateless linux project regards Rahul From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Sep 15 09:25:39 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:25:39 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Setting X resolution In-Reply-To: <200508302308.49125.darko.ilic@gmail.com> References: <200508302308.49125.darko.ilic@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1126776339.15352.22.camel@agree-6> This is probably a dumb question, but I haven't managed to find an answer yet so am hoping some one can point me in the right directions. I am letting X auto configure off of the CD, this seems to be picking the Video driver fine but I would like to be able to specify a higher resolution. How can I force X to start at say 1024x768 instead of 800x600 which is what it would appear to be doing. I have found that I am also having to create /dev/mouse in /etc/udev/devices as well otherwise X fails to find the default pointer device. I am probably going about this in the wrong way as well, but it worked so that is how I am doing it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From sailaja.mulakaluri at host-technology.com Fri Sep 16 08:42:24 2005 From: sailaja.mulakaluri at host-technology.com (sailaja) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:42:24 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] live cd procedure Message-ID: <432A8570.9020706@host-technology.com> Hi, i am looking for the procedure to create a live cd for a distribution based on Fedora. Any help would be welcome thanks in advance Sailaja From ABDUXUKUR.ABDURIXIT at T-SYSTEMS.CH Tue Sep 20 06:32:33 2005 From: ABDUXUKUR.ABDURIXIT at T-SYSTEMS.CH (Abdurixit Abduxukur) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:32:33 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] where do I get Kadischi software Message-ID: <431154995655204387475010ACB32CF201CEF5FD@VAIZK73.t-systems.ch> Dear List-Members Can anyone tell me from where and how to download Kadischi software? Following commands from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi is not working for me: export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous at cvs.fedora.redhat.com:/cvs/devel cvs -z3 login ==> (I stuck here, it comes timeout after sometime) cvs -z3 co kadischi Regards Abduxukur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhumphre at simulation.com Thu Sep 22 06:13:13 2005 From: dhumphre at simulation.com (dhumphre at simulation.com) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 02:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What I want to do... Message-ID: <60744.67.8.181.55.1127369593.squirrel@email.simulation.com> I am interested in building a Live CD with a pretty minimal X windows install. I don't need many bells and whistles, but I do need nvidia OpenGL drivers and C++ runtime libraries. My intent is to actually boot from compact flash using a CF IDE adpater. I read about an audio distro of Linux being setup that way to avoid having noisy hard drives in a studio setting. My company sells a software product that produces real time OpenGL displays and we are lookng to build an embedded linux platform to deploy it on, using a small form factor motherboard, nvidia graphics card and touch screen LCD. The primary application would be for displays for vehicle simulators. Other apps would include wall mounted PC control systems and people prototyping new flight displays for aircraft. I am pretty familiar with Red Hat and Fedora based distros and not very familiar with Debian. So Kadischi looks cool to me even though Knoppix is further along. Our software already supports FC2 & FC3, so FC4 should be easy to do and I'd prefer to stick with what we know already. We want the user to be able to run a standard Linux distro and then just use some scripts to ftp/scp files over to the embedded box, which would ideally have no keyboard and mouse and no X Windows manager running (or a very light one). So it'd be good if that distro was pretty mainstream like Fedora. I'm just in the getting hardware stage, but I hope to start building a live CD image in the next week or so. Darren Humphrey From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Sep 22 11:23:58 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:53:58 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What I want to do... In-Reply-To: <60744.67.8.181.55.1127369593.squirrel@email.simulation.com> References: <60744.67.8.181.55.1127369593.squirrel@email.simulation.com> Message-ID: <4332944E.6040705@redhat.com> dhumphre at simulation.com wrote: >I am interested in building a Live CD with a pretty minimal X windows >install. I don't need many bells and whistles, but I do need nvidia >OpenGL drivers and C++ runtime libraries. My intent is to actually boot >from compact flash using a CF IDE adpater. I read about an audio distro >of Linux being setup that way to avoid having noisy hard drives in a >studio setting. > >My company sells a software product that produces real time OpenGL >displays and we are lookng to build an embedded linux platform to deploy >it on, using a small form factor motherboard, nvidia graphics card and >touch screen LCD. The primary application would be for displays for >vehicle simulators. Other apps would include wall mounted PC control >systems and people prototyping new flight displays for aircraft. > >I am pretty familiar with Red Hat and Fedora based distros and not very >familiar with Debian. So Kadischi looks cool to me even though Knoppix is >further along. Our software already supports FC2 & FC3, so FC4 should be >easy to do and I'd prefer to stick with what we know already. > >We want the user to be able to run a standard Linux distro and then just >use some scripts to ftp/scp files over to the embedded box, which would >ideally have no keyboard and mouse and no X Windows manager running (or a >very light one). So it'd be good if that distro was pretty mainstream >like Fedora. > >I'm just in the getting hardware stage, but I hope to start building a >live CD image in the next week or so. > >Darren Humphrey > > Awesome. This sort of things is what kadischi is enabled to do. Keep us updated on your progress regards Rahul From gdk at redhat.com Thu Sep 22 15:34:59 2005 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What I want to do... In-Reply-To: <60744.67.8.181.55.1127369593.squirrel@email.simulation.com> References: <60744.67.8.181.55.1127369593.squirrel@email.simulation.com> Message-ID: Great to hear, Darren. Let us know how it goes for you. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 dhumphre at simulation.com wrote: > I am interested in building a Live CD with a pretty minimal X windows > install. I don't need many bells and whistles, but I do need nvidia > OpenGL drivers and C++ runtime libraries. My intent is to actually boot > from compact flash using a CF IDE adpater. I read about an audio distro > of Linux being setup that way to avoid having noisy hard drives in a > studio setting. > > My company sells a software product that produces real time OpenGL > displays and we are lookng to build an embedded linux platform to deploy > it on, using a small form factor motherboard, nvidia graphics card and > touch screen LCD. The primary application would be for displays for > vehicle simulators. Other apps would include wall mounted PC control > systems and people prototyping new flight displays for aircraft. > > I am pretty familiar with Red Hat and Fedora based distros and not very > familiar with Debian. So Kadischi looks cool to me even though Knoppix is > further along. Our software already supports FC2 & FC3, so FC4 should be > easy to do and I'd prefer to stick with what we know already. > > We want the user to be able to run a standard Linux distro and then just > use some scripts to ftp/scp files over to the embedded box, which would > ideally have no keyboard and mouse and no X Windows manager running (or a > very light one). So it'd be good if that distro was pretty mainstream > like Fedora. > > I'm just in the getting hardware stage, but I hope to start building a > live CD image in the next week or so. > > Darren Humphrey > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From gdk at redhat.com Thu Sep 22 15:36:07 2005 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: [opensuse] LIVECD scripts (fwd) Message-ID: Just to keep track of what SuSE is doing in this regard. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:27:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Thiel Reply-To: opensuse at opensuse.org To: opensuse at opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] LIVECD scripts On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Andreas Girardet wrote: > I understand .... I am happy to get that advice and help putting them > into shape? As always, we will publish a live DVD of SUSE Linux 10.0. ETA is Oct. 6th, AFAIK. I guess it would take much more time to explain the steps needed to create the live DVD, than just creating it here in Nuremberg. As AJ already pointed out, we will release those scripts, as soon as they are cleaned up and ready for general use. Regards Christoph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe at opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help at opensuse.org From gdk at redhat.com Thu Sep 22 21:17:31 2005 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi gets some pub! Message-ID: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/6014/2/ "The next cool format for Fedora would be a live CD release (Kadischi), where you can carry your own Linux OS around with you in your hip pocket. Of course what makes a truly mobile Linux OS practical is udev and HAL device abstraction." --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Sep 22 23:22:16 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 04:52:16 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [Fwd: a fedora based live cd (BETA) created by linux live scripts] Message-ID: <43333CA8.6070002@redhat.com> Hi Might want to follow up on this Email address for contact: linux[dot]juggler[at]gmail[dot]com. regards Rahul -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Antonio Olivares Subject: a fedora based live cd (BETA) created by linux live scripts Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Size: 4999 URL: From dhumphre at simulation.com Fri Sep 23 14:36:25 2005 From: dhumphre at simulation.com (Darren Humphrey) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:36:25 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] 1st problem.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923102541.0417be10@email.simulation.com> Hello. I'm running into a bit of a problem with Kadischi. I did a fresh install of FC4 on my build box I have a kickstart file that was created from that install. I created a repository in /root/fc4 following the instructions in the wiki I did a yum install of all the required packages: yum install anaconda busybox-anaconda etc... I then got the kadischi source, did an autogen, make, make install I try running kadischi: kadischi --kickstart=/root/livecd.cfg /root/fc4 /data/test.iso I get back an error: Error bad argument --livecd: unknown option *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (6528) exit code. Aborting execution. I tried running without the kickstart file and the same thing happens. Any ideas? Thanks, Darren Humphrey From darko.ilic at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 16:24:45 2005 From: darko.ilic at gmail.com (Darko Ilic) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:24:45 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] 1st problem.... In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923102541.0417be10@email.simulation.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923102541.0417be10@email.simulation.com> Message-ID: <552ca203050923092477c28502@mail.gmail.com> On 9/23/05, Darren Humphrey wrote: > I get back an error: > > Error bad argument --livecd: unknown option You forgot to patch anaconda. -- Darko From dhumphre at simulation.com Fri Sep 23 17:51:14 2005 From: dhumphre at simulation.com (Darren Humphrey) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:51:14 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] 1st problem.... In-Reply-To: <552ca203050923092477c28502@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923102541.0417be10@email.simulation.com> <552ca203050923092477c28502@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923133255.04614a40@email.simulation.com> Thanks, I did indeed need to patch anaconda. The documentation is a bit fuzzy since you have to jump to the appendix and back to do it, which is why I missed it the first time. Now I get an exception from anaconda when I try to run with kickstart. Maybe it's my kickstart file? A 'typical' kickstart file would be a good addition to the docs. Sure I could try to understand all the kickstart options, but for people who want a fast start, a kickstart file that works would be a good jumping off point. Also, I get a bunch of warnings about packages that are needed by other packages. Since I installed everything from the FC4 CDs, I assume these are harmless? Since I got the exception, I tried an interactive install. That seems to work so far. I started a build and it made it to the part where it's compressing the tree. My build box is a PII 450, so it might take a while :) Also, for whatever reason, my X windows mouse cursor disappears after I try to run kadischi in command line mode. Darren Humphrey At 12:24 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote: >On 9/23/05, Darren Humphrey wrote: > > I get back an error: > > > > Error bad argument --livecd: unknown option > >You forgot to patch anaconda. > >-- >Darko > >-- >Fedora-livecd-list mailing list >Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list From dhumphre at simulation.com Fri Sep 23 21:58:16 2005 From: dhumphre at simulation.com (Darren Humphrey) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:58:16 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Trimming packages In-Reply-To: <552ca203050923092477c28502@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923102541.0417be10@email.simulation.com> <552ca203050923092477c28502@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050923174859.04b3d040@email.simulation.com> I successfully built a live CD that at least boots, though it hung up when I tried to go into X Windows. What I need some help with next is whittling the package set down. The wiki mentions editing the kickstart files, but I want to trim with more fine grained control. I have tried excluding packages from comps.xml, but anaconda seems to bring back in other packages I don't want anyway. For instance, my comps.xml file does not reference the kernel source, but I get it anyway. I know there's dependency checking going on...is there a way I can create a list of desired files, manually run a dependency check and then see what I need to add? I am trying to build a pretty minimalist system (though with a C++ runtime library, OpenGL and X), so it would be desirable to manually and completely specify my list of packages. Another question:What's the difference between what comps.xml and comps.rpm are used for? Thanks for the help! Darren Humphrey From skunkworx at verizon.net Mon Sep 26 09:19:42 2005 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:19:42 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] python bactrace and failure. Message-ID: <4337BD2E.3070705@verizon.net> Hello, I followed the instructions on the wiki but get this as anaconda finished up: * Writing autokickstart file Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1137, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 244, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 873, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 174, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 242, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/packages.py", line 84, in writeKSConfiguration id.writeKS(fn) File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/instdata.py", line 161, in writeKS (srv, dir) = string.split(nfsinfo, ':') ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack Also the wiki doc has a patching section that references /usr/share/kadischi/patches/ In my case they are below /usr/local. This is a fully yum-updated FC4 machine. Thanks for any help, FF From skunkworx at verizon.net Mon Sep 26 19:27:11 2005 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:27:11 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] python bactrace and failure. In-Reply-To: <4337BD2E.3070705@verizon.net> References: <4337BD2E.3070705@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43384B8F.5060800@verizon.net> more info : the previous message involved using /tmp/fc4 as a loopback from the DVD iso. The second time I tried it I used the anaconda GUI. I got a popup offering to debug, so i did a "p nfsinfo" and got "/dev/loop0". I guess it thought it was going a nfs install and there is no colon in the string. Next I linked /tmp/fc4 into /var/www/html and started http and tried a http command line install with this command line : kadischi http://localhost/fc4 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso --kickstart=/root/a-ks.cfg -C Now I get the following traceback : /usr/local/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/06sysconfig.py making initrd image /kadischi/livecd-build_no8/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. *** Fatal error: /usr/local/share/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 254, in ? run ("%s %s %s" % (normalize_path([bindir, 'livecd-mkinitrd.sh']), sysdir, kernel_version), builddir) File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 115, in run cleanup (builddir) File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 104, in cleanup shutil.move (normalize_path([builddir,'.buildstamp']), '/tmp/product/.buildstamp') NameError: global name 'shutil' is not defined Any help is appreciated. -- SW From gregsimon at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 04:09:47 2005 From: gregsimon at gmail.com (Greg Simon) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:09:47 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Stage FS before compression? Message-ID: <760d44fa05092621092438ad18@mail.gmail.com> I need to build a live CD based on FC3 for a client, and I need to install non-rpm'ed applications on the system before "freezing it." Does this mean I need to write up an rpm spec to do it? --or can I chroot to the tmp image and install the apps there? Thanks, Greg From geustace at godzone.net.nz Tue Sep 27 04:36:57 2005 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:36:57 +1200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Stage FS before compression? In-Reply-To: <760d44fa05092621092438ad18@mail.gmail.com> References: <760d44fa05092621092438ad18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1127795817.4470.94.camel@agree-6> On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 21:09 -0700, Greg Simon wrote: > I need to build a live CD based on FC3 for a client, and I need to > install non-rpm'ed applications on the system before "freezing it." > Does this mean I need to write up an rpm spec to do it? --or can I > chroot to the tmp image and install the apps there? I had a similar requirement and decided that building an rpm of my 'bits' was a clean way to ensure that the CD production was automated and reproduceable. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From rosenrami at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 09:16:29 2005 From: rosenrami at gmail.com (Rami Rosen) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:16:29 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Error in last stage of running kadischi Message-ID: Hello, I had installed kadishci accotding to the doc. I am running kadishci like thus: kadischi http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/i386/os//work/livecd/fedora- live.iso And I am getting the following error (it seems to me at the last stage of its work): ........ ........ running post installation scripts /usr/local/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/01umountproc.sh /usr/local/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/02install.sh /usr/local/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/03fstab.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/03fstab.py", line 12, in ? if (line[0] != '#') and (line != '\n') and (line.find('swap') == -1) and ( line.rsplit() [1] != '/'): AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'rsplit' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 248, in ? run ("%s %s" % (script, sysdir), builddir) File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 112, in run flc_log ('\n *** Fatal error: %s returned non zero (%s) exit code. Aborting execution.\n' % (command.rsplit() [0], rc)) AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'rsplit' ........ ........ Any idea why ? Regards, Rami -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From darko.ilic at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 10:02:49 2005 From: darko.ilic at gmail.com (Darko Ilic) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:02:49 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Error in last stage of running kadischi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <552ca20305092703021a87f638@mail.gmail.com> > AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'rsplit' > > Any idea why ? A bug. You`re probably using something older than fc4, and you have python<2.4, and rsplit() method is introduced in 2.4 :) Really, my mistake, there is no need for rsplit... You can help yourself opening /usr/local/share/kadischi/post_install_scripts/03fstab.py and changing rsplit() to split(). I`ll fix&commit shortly. -- Darko From sailaja.mulakaluri at host-technology.com Tue Sep 27 10:09:47 2005 From: sailaja.mulakaluri at host-technology.com (sailaja) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:09:47 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadisschi problem Message-ID: <43391A6B.9040101@host-technology.com> Dear Mr.Darko, I am using the latest version of kadischi to create the live-cd for fedora core3. In the process,we have gone through the documentation available and resolved the following issues: 1.First of all, the anaconda installer was getting some problem, and now its working well. 2.Coming to the post installation scripts, the file 01umountproc.sh was not running. It was telling that the proc in the tmp path is not mounted. So, we have moved that file to another location so that kadischi will ignore it and it did so and next file 02install.sh was taken to run properly. 3. Next, we were stuck at 03fstab.sh where we gave comments to the following lines in that file and it went to run other installation scripts well. fstab = open (normalize_path ([sysdir,'/etc/fstab']) , 'r') for line in fstab: if (line[0] != '#') and (line != '\n') and (line.find('swap') == -1) and (line.rsplit() [1] != '/'): list.append (line) fstab.close() Is there any problem if we comment these lines? 4. Now, it came to making of the initrd image where we are stuck now, and unable to resolve the problem. The error is as follows: making initrd image /tmp/fc3/livecd-build_no24/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. Is there any necessity to fill any feilds in the file livecd-mkinitrd.sh and other files too. Why is this happening? It would be helpful if you mail me back. Looking forward Thanks and Regards, Sailaja From darko.ilic at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 14:37:51 2005 From: darko.ilic at gmail.com (Darko Ilic) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:37:51 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadisschi problem In-Reply-To: <43391A6B.9040101@host-technology.com> References: <43391A6B.9040101@host-technology.com> Message-ID: <552ca20305092707372236de40@mail.gmail.com> On 9/27/05, sailaja wrote: > 1.First of all, the anaconda installer was getting some problem, and now > its working well. What was the problem and what did you do to solve it? Have you changed anything in kadischi or anaconda to solve it? > 2.Coming to the post installation scripts, the file 01umountproc.sh was > not running. It was telling that the proc in the tmp path is not mounted. It`s a bit strange, cause it should be mounted by anaconda during the install. Again, have you change anything in anaconda? > So, we have moved that file to another location so that kadischi will > ignore it and it did so and next file 02install.sh was taken to run > properly. You could just make it non-executable, and kadischi wouldn`t execute it... > 3. Next, we were stuck at 03fstab.sh where we gave comments to the What was the problem? Can you attach the log? > following lines in that file and it went to run other installation > scripts well. > fstab = open (normalize_path ([sysdir,'/etc/fstab']) , 'r') > for line in fstab: > if (line[0] != '#') and (line != '\n') and (line.find('swap') == > -1) and (line.rsplit() [1] != '/'): > list.append (line) > fstab.close() > > Is there any problem if we comment these lines? Yes, otherwise they won`t be there :) > 4. Now, it came to making of the initrd image where we are stuck now, > and unable to resolve the problem. > The error is as follows: > making initrd image > /tmp/fc3/livecd-build_no24/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. For some reason, Kadischi didn`t resolve the kernel version of the installed system. It would be helpfull if you could send the whole log, and if you could describe your case more detailed (like what version of anaconda are you using, what repository are you using, what changes have you made etc.) > Is there any necessity to fill any feilds in the file livecd-mkinitrd.sh > and other files too. No. -- Darko From markryde at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 15:23:42 2005 From: markryde at gmail.com (Mark Ryden) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:23:42 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live-CD and shutting down Message-ID: Hello, I tried today preparing a LiveCD using kadischi and it works great ! you've done a wonderful job ! I am quite a newbie to liveCD ; I have a question (which is not specific to your LIveCD project) and I hope you can give me some advice: When I want to turn off (not reboot but power down) the computer (which was started from your LiveCD), I run "shutdown -h now". I cannot eject the CD before because it is mounted (there is no response to pressing the eject button ). When I press the eject button during shutdown process it still does not respond. Is there a way to cause it to ejecct during suthdown (or must I start the computer again)? Regards, Mark From sgrubb at redhat.com Tue Sep 27 15:35:59 2005 From: sgrubb at redhat.com (Steve Grubb) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:35:59 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live-CD and shutting down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200509271135.59050.sgrubb@redhat.com> On Tuesday 27 September 2005 11:23, Mark Ryden wrote: > Is there a way to cause it to ejecct during suthdown (or must I start > the computer again)? I usually run the eject command and then hit the power switch after I have disk in hand. But, I do that knowing that I did not do anything to hard drives. If I did, I unmount the hard drive by hand first. This is something that should be cleaned up, though. /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt could probably be doctored to run /usr/bin/eject for live cds. -Steve From darko.ilic at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 17:43:30 2005 From: darko.ilic at gmail.com (Darko Ilic) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:43:30 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live-CD and shutting down In-Reply-To: <200509271135.59050.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <200509271135.59050.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: <552ca203050927104344c85e9c@mail.gmail.com> On Tuesday 27 September 2005 11:23, Mark Ryden wrote: > Is there a way to cause it to ejecct during suthdown (or must I start > the computer again)? I couldn`t stop laughing to my self for 5 minutes :) Since I was using rw disc all the time, and I didn`t have need to eject it, it never came to my mind to deal with ejecting :) It`s just like Steve said - eject it and hit the shut down button for now, and we`ll come up with a better solution soon. -- Darko From darko.ilic at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 18:47:03 2005 From: darko.ilic at gmail.com (Darko Ilic) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:47:03 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Stage FS before compression? In-Reply-To: <760d44fa05092621092438ad18@mail.gmail.com> References: <760d44fa05092621092438ad18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <552ca203050927114764fd180@mail.gmail.com> On 9/27/05, Greg Simon wrote: > I need to build a live CD based on FC3 for a client, and I need to > install non-rpm'ed applications on the system before "freezing it." > Does this mean I need to write up an rpm spec to do it? --or can I > chroot to the tmp image and install the apps there? Well, it`s not yet possible to split the process of building the iso image into stages, but we have it on the todo list. Like Glen said, you can create rpms, and put them into repository. If you don`t want to bother with spec files, you can create some quick&dirty rpms with something like checkinstall or similar. Another option is to write a script in post_install_scripts directory, and to make it do what ever you want to do. Kadischi runs all executables from post_install_scripts directory, passing them a path to the root of the new system as an argument. So, this way, you can do all the customization. -- Darko From gdk at redhat.com Tue Sep 27 18:48:52 2005 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Stage FS before compression? In-Reply-To: <552ca203050927114764fd180@mail.gmail.com> References: <760d44fa05092621092438ad18@mail.gmail.com> <552ca203050927114764fd180@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Darko Ilic wrote: > Like Glen said, you can create rpms, and put them into repository. If > you don`t want to bother with spec files, you can create some > quick&dirty rpms with something like checkinstall or similar. Another > option is to write a script in post_install_scripts directory, and to > make it do what ever you want to do. Kadischi runs all executables > from post_install_scripts directory, passing them a path to the root > of the new system as an argument. So, this way, you can do all the > customization. Is this last bit in the FAQ? Could be a useful clue. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan From skunkworx at verizon.net Tue Sep 27 20:20:09 2005 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:20:09 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] python bactrace and failure. In-Reply-To: <43384B8F.5060800@verizon.net> References: <4337BD2E.3070705@verizon.net> <43384B8F.5060800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4339A979.6050409@verizon.net> more failure details: $ uname -a Linux localhost 2.6.12-1.1456_FC4 #1 Thu Sep 22 02:11:40 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux $ rpm -qa | grep anaconda anaconda-help-10.1.0-1 anaconda-10.2.1.5-2 busybox-anaconda-1.00-4 $ rpm -qa |grep syslinux syslinux-3.08-2 $ rpm -qa |grep isofs mkisofs-2.01.1-9 zisofs-tools-1.0.6-3 $ rpm -qa |grep e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-1.38-0.FC4.1 e2fsprogs-devel-1.38-0.FC4.1 $ rpm -qa |grep kudzu kudzu-devel-1.1.116.2-2 kudzu-1.1.116.2-2 Does the mailing list get a msg when a new cvs is ready for testing? TIA, SW From ianbrn at gmail.com Wed Sep 28 14:25:06 2005 From: ianbrn at gmail.com (Ian Brown) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:25:06 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] /opt and the live-cd : problem: cannot see files Message-ID: Hello, I had added to some files under /opt I want to see these files after booting the live-cd and I can't. Here are the details: I did it by using the live-cd script. (I just paused the kadischi script (kadischi.py) before it statrs compression,by adding a command to reading some input from the console,and added to the "system" folder some files under opt , and than let the script finish it job. Now, the "fedora-live.iso" which was created DOES contains the files under /opt. If I mount it , on the hard disk,using: mount -o loop tmpFolder fedora-live.iso Than I can see the all the files under /opt. However, when I burn this fedora-live.iso with cdrecord, and boot with it, I don't see anything under /opt. Is there a way to overcome it ? Any idea ? Should putting theses files under another folder work? Kind Regards, Ian From markryde at gmail.com Wed Sep 28 19:26:32 2005 From: markryde at gmail.com (Mark Ryden) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:26:32 +0300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live-CD and shutting down In-Reply-To: <200509271135.59050.sgrubb@redhat.com> References: <200509271135.59050.sgrubb@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello, In my case, it does not respond to the "eject" comman (probably because it is mounted). And you cannot unmount - it does not respond to unmount . Regards, MR On 9/27/05, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Tuesday 27 September 2005 11:23, Mark Ryden wrote: > > Is there a way to cause it to ejecct during suthdown (or must I start > > the computer again)? > > I usually run the eject command and then hit the power switch after I have > disk in hand. But, I do that knowing that I did not do anything to hard > drives. If I did, I unmount the hard drive by hand first. > > This is something that should be cleaned up, though. /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt > could probably be doctored to run /usr/bin/eject for live cds. > > -Steve > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From dhumphre at simulation.com Thu Sep 29 14:24:50 2005 From: dhumphre at simulation.com (Darren Humphrey) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:24:50 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Booting from Flash? Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050929102137.0414bb78@email.simulation.com> I am having some success making a bootable livecd, but my ultimate goal is to boot from a compact flash card. I found an article from someone who did it with knoppix: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8275095591.html Any ideas on how to do the same with Fedora? My grub/lilo skills are a bit weak... Thanks, Darren Humphrey From n.richter at qut.edu.au Thu Sep 29 21:02:35 2005 From: n.richter at qut.edu.au (Neville Richter) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:02:35 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Booting from Flash? Message-ID: <20050930070235.BTM04310@mail-msgstore01.qut.edu.au> Darren, An alternative, the ADIOS boot CD has the ability to boot from USB devices. To make this work the ADIOS kernel includes USB modules within the initial ram drive. The commands to make the USB device bootable are in the linuxrc script, also located in the initial ram drive. regards Neville ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:24:50 -0400 >From: Darren Humphrey >Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Booting from Flash? >To: fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > >I am having some success making a bootable livecd, but my ultimate goal is >to boot from a compact flash card. > >I found an article from someone who did it with knoppix: > >http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8275095591.html > >Any ideas on how to do the same with Fedora? > >My grub/lilo skills are a bit weak... > >Thanks, > >Darren Humphrey > >-- >Fedora-livecd-list mailing list >Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- regards Neville ----------------------------------------------------------------------- email: n.richter at qut.edu.au room: S745 Gardens Point phone: +61 07 3864 1928 fax: +61 07 3221 2384 web: http://dc.qut.edu.au/sedc/staff/neville_richter.html Neville Richter, Senior Lecturer School of Software Engineering & Data Communications Faculty of Information Technology Queensland University of Technology Box 2434 Brisbane 4001 AUSTRALIA From mark_komarinski at hms.harvard.edu Fri Sep 30 18:56:38 2005 From: mark_komarinski at hms.harvard.edu (Mark Komarinski) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:56:38 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Start in graphical mode and getting updates Message-ID: <433D8A66.10308@hms.harvard.edu> I'm building a live CD for teaching a class in Linux on the Desktop. So far, I have Kadischi building something just larger than a CD size (I think needing both KDE and GNOME is doing this), but am running into two problems. First, the DVD's I'm building start off in runlevel 3. How can I get it to skip firstboot and have it go right into runlevel 5? Also, I'm building the DVD by fetching RPMs from a mirror, but they're not getting the updates, only the original install packages. How can I tell Kadischi I want to get updates as well? Would I need to build my own repository? -Mark -- Mark Komarinski mark_komarinski at hms.harvard.edu Sr. Research Systems Architect http://ritg.med.harvard.edu Research IT Group Harvard Medical School From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Fri Sep 30 20:34:50 2005 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:34:50 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Start in graphical mode and getting updates In-Reply-To: <433D8A66.10308@hms.harvard.edu> References: <433D8A66.10308@hms.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <1128112490.9641.1.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 14:56 -0400, Mark Komarinski wrote: > Also, I'm building the DVD by fetching RPMs from a mirror, but they're > not getting the updates, only the original install packages. How can I > tell Kadischi I want to get updates as well? Would I need to build my > own repository? No, you need to build your own install source. Anaconda can't yet install from yum so just creating a repository isn't enough. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dhumphre at simulation.com Fri Sep 30 22:02:46 2005 From: dhumphre at simulation.com (Darren Humphrey) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:02:46 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Argh! Disappearing devices Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050930175908.04ad2f88@email.simulation.com> I've been pretty successful with the live CD part so far but I am struggling with make a compact flash card bootable. My biggest problem right now is some sort of process in Fedora Core 4 is managing whether or not /dev/hdd1 and /dev/hdd2 exist. I have an IDE/CF adapter card installed and I have partitioned the CF card into two partitions with Linux file systems. However whenever I try to make an ext file system on the CF card, I get errors about the devices not existing. I am not really familiar with udev and hal....is there a way to configure the system to NOT try to automatically create/delete /dev entries for /dev/hdd? Thanks, Darren Humphrey