From a.badger at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 01:57:15 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:57:15 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems on a very current FC6 In-Reply-To: <4270.192.168.2.100.1164929457.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> References: <4270.192.168.2.100.1164929457.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> Message-ID: <1164938235.29086.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:30 -0500, Brian Dykstra wrote: > Hi, > > I just found this project this morning and eagerly installed Kadischi > after an ugly experience last night with live-linux scripts. > > My system is a running kernel 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 > I've yum updated all the packages and installed everything required from > the wiki install documentation. I had no problem compiling the source. > So basically I'm very current and ready to go. > > When I ran # kadischi --help I got the following error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 8, in ? > from functions import * > File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 12, in ? > import isys > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 32, in ? > import block > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/block/__init__.py", line 33, in ? > from bdevid import bdevid as _bdevid > ImportError: libparted-1.7.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory > > I dug up an older version of parted and install libparted-1.7.so.1 but ran > into all new errors: > > [root@ ~]# kadischi --help > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 8, in ? > from functions import * > File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 12, in ? > import isys > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 32, in ? > import block > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/block/__init__.py", line 33, in ? > from bdevid import bdevid as _bdevid > ImportError: /usr/lib/libbdevid.so.5.1.19: undefined symbol: > ped_exception_get_handler > > I was wondering if anyone had Kadischi working on current FC6 (I saw the > Unity CD release) and had some pointers? libbdevid should come from the mkinitrd package on FC6. 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Haven't > tried it again lately. > > -Toshio > Toshio, The libdevid is there as is the latest mkinitrd. I think I'm definately seeing versioning problems here. I was hoping that someone might be building on a current system. Thanks BD From bdykstra at virtualwar.com Fri Dec 1 02:58:36 2006 From: bdykstra at virtualwar.com (Brian Dykstra) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:58:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems on a very current FC6 In-Reply-To: <200611302106.23641.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <4270.192.168.2.100.1164929457.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> <1164938235.29086.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200611302106.23641.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4667.192.168.2.100.1164941916.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 30 November 2006 20:57, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> libbdevid should come from the mkinitrd package on FC6. >> >> I had kadischi working on FC6 soon after FC6 was released. ? Haven't >> tried it again lately. > > parted was bumped, mkisofs and such hasn't been yet, which > anaconda/kadischi > would need. I ran into this while running pungi. Jesse, I suspected it might be a versioning problem. I noticed on one of the bug summaries that there was a problem with parted versions and a few other related packages. Does this mean I'm dead in the water until the rpms get caught up or is there some sort of workaround I could try? Did your kadischi work on a base FC6 release (before a bunch of the patches)? Thanks BD From a.badger at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 07:14:18 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:14:18 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems on a very current FC6 In-Reply-To: <4613.192.168.2.100.1164941442.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> References: <4270.192.168.2.100.1164929457.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> <1164938235.29086.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4613.192.168.2.100.1164941442.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> Message-ID: <1164957258.29086.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 21:50 -0500, Brian Dykstra wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:30 -0500, Brian Dykstra wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just found this project this morning and eagerly installed Kadischi > >> after an ugly experience last night with live-linux scripts. > >> > >> My system is a running kernel 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 > >> > > > > libbdevid should come from the mkinitrd package on FC6. > > > > I had kadischi working on FC6 soon after FC6 was released. Haven't > > tried it again lately. > > > > -Toshio > > > Toshio, > > The libdevid is there as is the latest mkinitrd. I think I'm definately > seeing versioning problems here. I was hoping that someone might be > building on a current system. > Yeah -- read your post wrong, sorry. It looks like mkinitrd needs to be recompiled/ported to the new libparted: $ ldd /usr/lib64/libbdevid.so.5.1.19 |grep parted libparted-1.7.so.1 => not found hmmm... It recompiled cleanly. I don't have a local repository so I'm afraid that using kadischi would be a bit slow for me right now. Would you be interested in trying an updated mkinitrd and seeing if it works? (No guarantees that it won't break your system, etc etc.) http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/nash-5.1.19-1.0.0.1.x86_64.rpm http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/mkinitrd-5.1.19-1.0.0.1.x86_64.rpm http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/libbdevid-python-5.1.19-1.0.0.1.x86_64.rpm If that works for you, can you open a bug report in bugzilla.redhat.com against mkinitrd asking that FC-6 mkinitrd be rebuilt against the new libparted? That way the mkinitrd maintainer can address the issue for everyone. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Ingo -- "Milchreis schmeckt hervorragend, wenn man ihn kurz vor dem Verzehr durch ein saftiges Steak ersetzt." gefunden bei frag-mutti.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From ingo at ingo-schaefer.de Fri Dec 1 11:15:17 2006 From: ingo at ingo-schaefer.de (Ingo Schaefer) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:15:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems on a very current FC6 In-Reply-To: <4613.192.168.2.100.1164941442.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> References: <4270.192.168.2.100.1164929457.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> <1164938235.29086.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4613.192.168.2.100.1164941442.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> Message-ID: <1164971717.1976.190.camel@schaefei01> Hello Brian, Am Donnerstag, den 30.11.2006, 21:50 -0500 schrieb Brian Dykstra: > The libdevid is there as is the latest mkinitrd. I think I'm definately > seeing versioning problems here. I was hoping that someone might be > building on a current system. Another thing I forgot: Do you have parted installed? I think it is a dependency for mkinitrd, but one could of course force rpm to install mkinitrd without checking deps. So, what does rpm -q parted say? Please post output of: rpm -q parted rpm -ql parted ls -al Regards, Ingo -- "Milchreis schmeckt hervorragend, wenn man ihn kurz vor dem Verzehr durch ein saftiges Steak ersetzt." gefunden bei frag-mutti.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From andrew.trayford at bakbone.co.uk Fri Dec 1 12:59:16 2006 From: andrew.trayford at bakbone.co.uk (Andy Trayford) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 04:59:16 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What is kadischi capable of ? Message-ID: <960D0E79B4E503448AD14B5E40A5C1C7434172@USX1.corp.bb> Hi All, I've been a watcher here for a while now, and have also tried out kadischi on FC5. What I really need and think a liveCD generation tool should offer is as follows: - Bootable customised version of chosen distribution - Ability to make the distribution as "Light" or minimalistic as possible. this includes chopping down an X solution (i.e. XFCE/fluxbox) as small as possible. - Total package choice independancy without having to install buckets of dependencies. - Media delivery options: USB / CD / DVD. - Cross Platform: PowerPC (IBM & Mac), X86, X86-64, Solaris, Itanium (efi). By Cross Platform I mean ability to produce same configuration on all Distro supported architecture. - Minimal or no boot menu's: i.e. complete hardware auto detection or Menu customisation. possibly only configure IP address by menu choice ? - Custom Boot splash or no boot splash. There are many minimalistic distro's like DSL or comprehensive ones like Knoppix. Under standard liveCD tools it seems impossible to create a replica distro like either of these without creating a heavily bloated DVD image. Does Fedora have the capability of reproducing such distro's for its supported architecture list. My reason is to use a specific application in both X & Cmdline, and useable in our labs on all platforms, on the smallest media possible. Currently I believe from the discussions I am seeing that its barely possible for fedora to even complete any kind of liveCD, although Jdogs pilgrim seems to be the closest in theory ? is pilgrim available and useable ? or have I got the wrong idea about pilgrim? (I haven't seen a website for pilgrim). If anyone has any positive info on how fedora could be used to match my requests, I would be very interested to test and use on all platforms. Thanks All Andy T -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdogalt at yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 16:11:33 2006 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:11:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What is kadischi capable of ? In-Reply-To: <960D0E79B4E503448AD14B5E40A5C1C7434172@USX1.corp.bb> Message-ID: <615978.81312.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Andy Trayford wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been a watcher here for a while now, and have also tried out > kadischi on FC5. > > > > What I really need and think a liveCD generation tool should offer is > as > follows: > > > > - Bootable customised version of chosen distribution > > - Ability to make the distribution as "Light" or > minimalistic > as possible. > this includes chopping down an X solution (i.e. XFCE/fluxbox) as > small > as possible. I totally agree. Back when my unreleased livecd generating tool was based on mandrake-7.0 and urpmi, I accomplished this using the the 'minimal' install option (I think redhat might have also had this in the distant past). I actually had X+windowmaker+xmms+firefox in <100M, so that it could fit on a 3" CDR with some space left over for your mp3s. I do plan on targeting the same type of thing with my as-yet purely vaporware tool. Though these days I might be happy if I can get <1G leaving some room to spare on a 1G usb drive, or 3" dvdr. > > - Total package choice independancy without having to > install > buckets of dependencies. Thats just yum, and a general critique of dependency 'bugs' in fedora. If you can find specific packages that don't really depend on something else, and can figure a better way to package them, I'd guess fedora would adopt your build patch in a heartbeat. > > - Media delivery options: USB / CD / DVD. Or even PXE, QEMU, and general tgz images, perhaps with a way to push those images on a local or remote system. But you listed the important ones. > > - Cross Platform: PowerPC (IBM & Mac), X86, X86-64, Solaris, > Itanium (efi). > By Cross Platform I mean ability to produce same configuration on all > Distro supported architecture. Yup. Maybe even the ability to make a single image that can boot multiple arches??? I wonder if you can make a bootable iso that boots both ppc and i386. I think I've heard rumors of that in the past. > > - Minimal or no boot menu's: i.e. complete hardware auto > detection or Menu customisation. I totally agree. I call this 'physically portable linux'. I.e. your workstation on your ipod, and it 'just works' when you take your workstation with you. Honestly though, just disabling fc6's firstboot, gets you pretty close these days. Maybe with an Xorg -configure invocation as well. > possibly only configure IP address by menu choice ? > > - Custom Boot splash or no boot splash. The one thats really tough, which was one of my better achievements with mandrake-8.1, is total bootsplash, I.e. never seeing a text character at all. And never seeing a useless desktop. I.e. hide the desktop with a full screen 'loading' until the system aquiesces and the user can dive right in. > > > > There are many minimalistic distro's like DSL or comprehensive ones > like > Knoppix. > > Under standard liveCD tools it seems impossible to create a replica > distro like either of these without creating a heavily bloated DVD > image. Yeah, livecd tools have _a lot_ of room for improvement. I can't believe that there still isn't(?) a simple command line script to generate knoppix purely from up to date debian installation sources. > > > > Does Fedora have the capability of reproducing such distro's for its > supported architecture list. I think pungi (gotta love redhat's project naming skills... not) is what you want to look at. > > > > My reason is to use a specific application in both X & Cmdline, and > useable in our labs on all platforms, on the smallest media possible. > > Currently I believe from the discussions I am seeing that its barely > possible for fedora to even complete any kind of liveCD, although > Jdogs > pilgrim seems to be the closest in theory ? is pilgrim available and > useable ? or have I got the wrong idea about pilgrim? (I haven't seen > a > website for pilgrim). > Pilgrim is DavidZ's project. All I've posted so far are 6 year old mandrake isos that have critical bugs that need to be, and wont be fixed, and one unionfs+squashfs proof of concept iso and initialization for fc5, which was nothing but proof of concept of that mechanism (for fc5). If you search the archives of this list, you should be able to track down the pilgrim release url and instructions. > > > If anyone has any positive info on how fedora could be used to match > my > requests, I would be very interested to test and use on all > platforms. I'm working on a lot of the features you described above, but don't count on me. (but I'll try here in a couple weeks when my heavy academic workload turns into a light workload). -dmc/jdog > > > > Thanks All > > Andy T > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Dec 1 16:26:49 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:26:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What is kadischi capable of ? In-Reply-To: <615978.81312.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <615978.81312.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200612011126.49899.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 01 December 2006 11:11, Jane Dogalt wrote: > I think pungi (gotta love redhat's project naming skills... ?not) is > what you want to look at. Oh come on, how could I NOT call a tool that fiddles with Anaconda "pungi" ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pungi (the name didn't actually come from me though, it was suggested to me by somebody who does not work for Red Hat) -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From davidz at redhat.com Fri Dec 1 18:11:26 2006 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [Fwd: Zod livecd beta] Message-ID: <1164996686.2479.34.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> I sent this mail to f-d-l regard livecd plans. I wanted to cross-post but am subscribed to f-d-l and this list with different email addresses. David -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: David Zeuthen Subject: Zod livecd beta Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:41:21 -0500 Size: 3853 URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 03:33:43 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:33:43 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What is kadischi capable of ? In-Reply-To: <960D0E79B4E503448AD14B5E40A5C1C7434172@USX1.corp.bb> References: <960D0E79B4E503448AD14B5E40A5C1C7434172@USX1.corp.bb> Message-ID: <1165030423.29086.203.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 04:59 -0800, Andy Trayford wrote: > Hi All, > > I?ve been a watcher here for a while now, and have also tried out > kadischi on FC5. > I've done some of these things with kadischi and a few custom post-install script. > - Bootable customised version of chosen distribution > kadischi does this. > - Ability to make the distribution as ?Light? or minimalistic > as possible. > this includes chopping down an X solution (i.e. XFCE/fluxbox) as small > as possible. > I made my liveCD with matchboxWM with no bells and whistles. I had to compile my own rpm for this and put it in my repository but that is pretty trivial. This was very lightweight but not necessarily the best solution for your needs. > - Total package choice independancy without having to install > buckets of dependencies. > This ended up being a major piece of my post_install scripts. Anaconda's kickstart is supposed to allow selecting and deselecting packages but I wasn't able to make it work for me. So I wrote a post_install script to remove extraneous packages and their deps from the livecd's installroot before creating the squashfs filesystem. In the end, I had a livecd that was 185MB but that included some hacky postinstall scripts that removed locales, docs, man pages, etc. > - Media delivery options: USB / CD / DVD. > I only had to worry about CD delivery so I didn't do any work on the other three. > - Cross Platform: PowerPC (IBM & Mac), X86, X86-64, Solaris, > Itanium (efi). > By Cross Platform I mean ability to produce same configuration on all > Distro supported architecture. > This sort of worked. It was early FC5 and I was able to build an x86 CD on an x86 builder; x86_64 CD on an x86_64 builder. There was no reason it couldn't work the same way on any supported architecture. The bugs I had open regarding not being able to build, say x86 on an x86_64 box have been fixed but I haven't had an opportunity to test this again so I don't know what the current status is. > - Minimal or no boot menu?s: i.e. complete hardware auto > detection or Menu customisation. > possibly only configure IP address by menu choice ? > I had complete hardware autodetection in FC5. Since this is a constant area of improvement in Fedora, I expect that FC6 is even better at this. For instance, I had to run a custom script to autoconfigure X and write out xorg.conf in FC5. FC6's X is supposed to autodetect hardware if there's no xorg.conf so this step might not be necessary. > - Custom Boot splash or no boot splash. > I didn't use rhgb, preferring to look into gensplash or splashy instead. The livecd work I was doing was cancelled before I had a chance to merge either one. > > > There are many minimalistic distro?s like DSL or comprehensive ones > like Knoppix. > > Under standard liveCD tools it seems impossible to create a replica > distro like either of these without creating a heavily bloated DVD > image. > > > > Does Fedora have the capability of reproducing such distro?s for its > supported architecture list. > DSL is an impossible goal. They've made some choices (such as compiling against gtk1 and sticking to the 2.4 kernel) that simply aren't compatible with Fedora's goals. My work with kadischi makes me confident that something similar to Knoppix is definitely doable. Remember, though, that even knoppix is not straight Debian. They have modified the init scripts and other pieces of the OS to reduce dependencies, make things smaller, and otherwise optimized the OS for their use case at the expense of no longer being 100% debian. > > > My reason is to use a specific application in both X & Cmdline, and > useable in our labs on all platforms, on the smallest media possible. > > Currently I believe from the discussions I am seeing that its barely > possible for fedora to even complete any kind of liveCD, although > Jdogs pilgrim seems to be the closest in theory ? is pilgrim available > and useable ? or have I got the wrong idea about pilgrim? (I haven?t > seen a website for pilgrim). > I think this should be possible with kadischi using a kickstart file and a set of custom post_install scripts (As I said, my first hack, minimalist kadischi build was 185 MB.) I wasn't able to get pilgrim to generate a working CD image when I tried but others I've talked to have. It looks even more suited to what you're doing in some regards. It's very commandline oriented and it takes a list of packages upon which it runs yum to resolve deps and install what is necessary to make those work. I had some hesitations about some of David Zeuthen's architecture choices (having scripts in the configure file, for instance) but those might have been good choices; I didn't play much with it after I failed to get a CD that would run. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From zrchrn at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 17:51:33 2006 From: zrchrn at gmail.com (Ahm ed) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:51:33 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim Message-ID: I'm not sure if I missed this discussion or not, but what is going to happen to kadischi now that pilgrim is the "default" or "chosen" tool for Fedora live-cd generation. 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Best regards, Jeroen Janssen From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 4 12:37:14 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:07:14 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> Ahm ed wrote: > I'm not sure if I missed this discussion or not, but what is going to > happen to kadischi now that pilgrim is the "default" or "chosen" tool > for Fedora live-cd generation. Will this project contiue or will it > merge with pungi and pilgrim. Pilgrim is being pursued for reasons outlined in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraSummit/LiveCD. Anyone interested in continuing to develop Kadischi can certainly do so. It is GPL'ed after all. Consider it a merge otherwise. Rahul From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 17:25:05 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:25:05 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> References: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 18:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Ahm ed wrote: > > I'm not sure if I missed this discussion or not, but what is going to > > happen to kadischi now that pilgrim is the "default" or "chosen" tool > > for Fedora live-cd generation. Will this project contiue or will it > > merge with pungi and pilgrim. > > Pilgrim is being pursued for reasons outlined in > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraSummit/LiveCD. Anyone interested in > continuing to develop Kadischi can certainly do so. It is GPL'ed after > all. Consider it a merge otherwise. I walked away from the summit with the understanding that we were going to pursue integrating pilgrim and pungi for our official livecds. But the Kadischi code would stay separate and Jaspar Hartline volunteered to be the maintainer which did not have any unfavorable reactions. What piece of the discussion led you to think of it as a merge? (I was only on IRC for this portion of things so I might have missed out on something.) It would be highly beneficial for Kadischi and pilgrim to remain unmerged. They are two very different tools which aim to address two separate corners of the liveCD creation audience. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 4 18:24:29 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:54:29 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <457467DD.7010004@fedoraproject.org> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 18:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Ahm ed wrote: >>> I'm not sure if I missed this discussion or not, but what is going to >>> happen to kadischi now that pilgrim is the "default" or "chosen" tool >>> for Fedora live-cd generation. Will this project contiue or will it >>> merge with pungi and pilgrim. >> Pilgrim is being pursued for reasons outlined in >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraSummit/LiveCD. Anyone interested in >> continuing to develop Kadischi can certainly do so. It is GPL'ed after >> all. Consider it a merge otherwise. > > I walked away from the summit with the understanding that we were going > to pursue integrating pilgrim and pungi for our official livecds. But > the Kadischi code would stay separate and Jaspar Hartline volunteered to > be the maintainer which did not have any unfavorable reactions. What > piece of the discussion led you to think of it as a merge? (I was only > on IRC for this portion of things so I might have missed out on > something.) > > It would be highly beneficial for Kadischi and pilgrim to remain > unmerged. They are two very different tools which aim to address two > separate corners of the liveCD creation audience. > As of now, I dont see anyone developing Kadischi further. I dont think there is separate niches for both tools. I would prefer a single tool to cover all the needs of people who want to create Live CD's. Functionality wise, I consider that a merge. Rahul From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 20:26:01 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:26:01 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <457467DD.7010004@fedoraproject.org> References: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457467DD.7010004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1165263961.29086.358.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 23:54 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 18:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Ahm ed wrote: > >>> I'm not sure if I missed this discussion or not, but what is going to > >>> happen to kadischi now that pilgrim is the "default" or "chosen" tool > >>> for Fedora live-cd generation. Will this project contiue or will it > >>> merge with pungi and pilgrim. > >> Pilgrim is being pursued for reasons outlined in > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraSummit/LiveCD. Anyone interested in > >> continuing to develop Kadischi can certainly do so. It is GPL'ed after > >> all. Consider it a merge otherwise. > > > > I walked away from the summit with the understanding that we were going > > to pursue integrating pilgrim and pungi for our official livecds. But > > the Kadischi code would stay separate and Jaspar Hartline volunteered to > > be the maintainer which did not have any unfavorable reactions. What > > piece of the discussion led you to think of it as a merge? (I was only > > on IRC for this portion of things so I might have missed out on > > something.) > > > > It would be highly beneficial for Kadischi and pilgrim to remain > > unmerged. They are two very different tools which aim to address two > > separate corners of the liveCD creation audience. > > > > As of now, I dont see anyone developing Kadischi further. I dont think > there is separate niches for both tools. I would prefer a single tool to > cover all the needs of people who want to create Live CD's. > Functionality wise, I consider that a merge. > Jasper has repeatedly stated that he is continuing to work on Kadischi. I asked him today and he confirmed that this is true. Asserting that Kadischi is not being developed is a disservice to the community who is using it and the people that are maintaining it. The reason there are separate niches is that Kadischi is dead simple to use for one-offs while pilgrim is easier to use for developing more official livecds. If I'm a college student with a Fedora Core install set, I can create a custom livecd with Kadischi very easily. It reuses anaconda, an interface that I have already been exposed to when I installed Fedora on the machine and is able to quickly create a livecd image for me. OTOH, if I'm spinning the official Fedora Livecd or otherwise want to create reproducible, scripted builds to which I can make incremental changes until I have something I'm ready to distribute, pilgrim makes a lot of sense. It has a commandline oriented, edit-the-package-list to create an install mentality. Kadischi has scriptability through anaconda's kickstart which can serve this purpose but IMHO pilgrim's inheritable package lists are a nicer interface for people who haven't used kickstart before. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 4 20:35:21 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:05:21 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <1165263961.29086.358.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457467DD.7010004@fedoraproject.org> <1165263961.29086.358.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45748689.5000804@fedoraproject.org> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> > Jasper has repeatedly stated that he is continuing to work on Kadischi. > I asked him today and he confirmed that this is true. Asserting that > Kadischi is not being developed is a disservice to the community who is > using it and the people that are maintaining it. I meant in terms of roadmaps and development discussions happening here but I wont argue about that. I have already stated that if its being developed independently, it can be. > The reason there are separate niches is that Kadischi is dead simple to > use for one-offs while pilgrim is easier to use for developing more > official livecds. > > If I'm a college student with a Fedora Core install set, I can create a > custom livecd with Kadischi very easily. It reuses anaconda, an > interface that I have already been exposed to when I installed Fedora on > the machine and is able to quickly create a livecd image for me. > > OTOH, if I'm spinning the official Fedora Livecd or otherwise want to > create reproducible, scripted builds to which I can make incremental > changes until I have something I'm ready to distribute, pilgrim makes a > lot of sense. It has a commandline oriented, edit-the-package-list to > create an install mentality. You are describing the current implementation as some sort of design decision. Kadischi has scriptability through > anaconda's kickstart which can serve this purpose but IMHO pilgrim's > inheritable package lists are a nicer interface for people who haven't > used kickstart before. There is no fundamental reason any single tool cant be easy enough to serve all the needs of Live CD users. I suspect the feature sets are going to converge based on the needs of users. Rahul From gdk at redhat.com Mon Dec 4 23:21:52 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:21:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 18:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Ahm ed wrote: >>> I'm not sure if I missed this discussion or not, but what is going to >>> happen to kadischi now that pilgrim is the "default" or "chosen" tool >>> for Fedora live-cd generation. Will this project contiue or will it >>> merge with pungi and pilgrim. >> >> Pilgrim is being pursued for reasons outlined in >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraSummit/LiveCD. Anyone interested in >> continuing to develop Kadischi can certainly do so. It is GPL'ed after >> all. Consider it a merge otherwise. > > I walked away from the summit with the understanding that we were going > to pursue integrating pilgrim and pungi for our official livecds. But > the Kadischi code would stay separate and Jaspar Hartline volunteered to > be the maintainer which did not have any unfavorable reactions. What > piece of the discussion led you to think of it as a merge? (I was only > on IRC for this portion of things so I might have missed out on > something.) > > It would be highly beneficial for Kadischi and pilgrim to remain > unmerged. They are two very different tools which aim to address two > separate corners of the liveCD creation audience. +1 I consider to see them as separate projects. Pungi+Pilgrim will produce the "official" LiveCD. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 4 23:42:31 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 00:42:31 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <1165263961.29086.358.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4574167A.5030404@fedoraproject.org> <1165253105.29086.291.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457467DD.7010004@fedoraproject.org> <1165263961.29086.358.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0612041542j17a3d00dg6840570a5fafe40b@mail.gmail.com> On 12/4/06, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Jasper has repeatedly stated that he is continuing to work on Kadischi. > I asked him today and he confirmed that this is true. Asserting that > Kadischi is not being developed is a disservice to the community who is > using it and the people that are maintaining it. Sorry, to land like this and didn't say it before, due to lack of time and new interesting tools were brought forward, I'm withdrawing myself from the Kadischi project. Though, I'll have a look soon at pungi+pilgrim and possibly help with the development. chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From danjde at msw.it Wed Dec 6 09:13:33 2006 From: danjde at msw.it (Davide Marchi) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:13:33 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi live cd build errors Message-ID: <457689BD.9090200@msw.it> Hi "fedora-livecd-list"! I'm davide from italy I would like to produce one live cd Fedora based. For this i hope to use your kadischi, but i need a little little help.. I've downloaded it from cvs, and make it the rpm version. When i run "kadischi" this is the output: this the kadischi version: rpm -qi kadischi Name : kadischi Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.4 Vendor: (none) Release : 4.20061204cvs Build Date: lun 04 dic 2006 14:07:22 CET Install Date: lun 04 dic 2006 14:09:19 CET Build Host: localhost.localdomain Group : Applications/System Source RPM: kadischi-3.4-4.20061204cvs.src.rpm Size : 538644 License: GPL Signature : (none) URL : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi Summary : LiveCD generation utility Description : Kadischi is a LiveCD generation tool for Fedora Core systems. A Live ISO9660 compliant image file made with Kadischi can be written to a CD or DVD and run without any prior installation of Fedora Core. this the output: kadischi http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/6/i386/os/ /media/disk/FC6/fedora-live.iso Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 8, in ? from functions import * File "/usr/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 12, in ? import isys File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 32, in ? import block File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/block/__init__.py", line 33, in ? from bdevid import bdevid as _bdevid ImportError: libparted-1.7.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory i've installed and builded kadischi with: Name : parted Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.8.0 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1.fc6 Build Date: mar 28 nov 2006 17:20:19 CET could you give me a little help? thanks!! ciao!! -- cosmogonia noprovarenofareononfarenonc'?provare -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3221 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From a.badger at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 10:43:17 2006 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:43:17 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi live cd build errors In-Reply-To: <457689BD.9090200@msw.it> References: <457689BD.9090200@msw.it> Message-ID: <1165401797.21163.209.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 10:13 +0100, Davide Marchi wrote: > Hi "fedora-livecd-list"! > I'm davide from italy > > I would like to produce one live cd Fedora based. For this i hope to use > your kadischi, but i need a little little help.. > > I've downloaded it from cvs, and make it the rpm version. > When i run "kadischi" this is the output: > kadischi http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/6/i386/os/ > /media/disk/FC6/fedora-live.iso > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 8, in ? > from functions import * > File "/usr/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 12, in ? > import isys > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 32, in ? > import block > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/block/__init__.py", line 33, in ? > from bdevid import bdevid as _bdevid > ImportError: libparted-1.7.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory > > i've installed and builded kadischi with: > > Name : parted Relocations: (not relocatable) > Version : 1.8.0 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. > Release : 1.fc6 Build Date: mar 28 nov 2006 > 17:20:19 CET > > Brian Dykstra seems to have encountered the same problem as you. His thread had some useful information about the root cause here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2006-December/msg00001.html If you're on x86_64, I compiled a new mkinitrd that may help: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2006-December/msg00004.html Brian, did the packages help you? Are you i386 or x86_64? (Ingo, I confirm this parted/mkinitrd mismatch on i386 as well as x86_64) If neither of you are on x86_64, you may have to recompile the srpm for i386. You can find the srpm here: http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/mkinitrd-5.1.19-1.0.0.1.src.rpm -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem with Kadischi has been, for a long time now, that no one was stepping up to take serious ownership/leadership of the project. That's the biggest single problem we're looking to solve by moving to Pilgrim. If a huge community should happen to grow up around Kadischi, I have absolutely no problem with that. At all. Zero. I encourage it, in fact. But Pilgrim is where the internal Red Hat momentum is, for a number of reasons. My bet is that Pilgrim will improve quickly and dramatically, in a way that Kadischi never has. If you have specific reasons for developing Kadischi, continue to develop and use Kadischi. But unless you work some serious mojo, Pilgrim will be much stronger in three months. That's just the facts, as I see it. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Dec 6 16:26:52 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:26:52 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi live cd build errors In-Reply-To: <1165401797.21163.209.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <457689BD.9090200@msw.it> <1165401797.21163.209.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200612061126.52492.jkeating@redhat.com> On Wednesday 06 December 2006 05:43, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > If you're on x86_64, I compiled a new mkinitrd that may help: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2006-December/msg00004.h >tml > > Brian, did the packages help you? ?Are you i386 or x86_64? ?(Ingo, I > confirm this parted/mkinitrd mismatch on i386 as well as x86_64) > > If neither of you are on x86_64, you may have to recompile the srpm for > i386. ?You can find the srpm here: > http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/mkinitrd-5.1.19-1.0.0.1.src.rpm Or just use the mkinitrd from updates-testing. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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No. This is one of the reasons we're moving to Pilgrim -- because those plans *are* in the Pilgrim roadmap. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From ftaylor at redhat.com Wed Dec 6 18:30:32 2006 From: ftaylor at redhat.com (Forrest Taylor) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:30:32 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] script kadischi to HDD In-Reply-To: References: <200612061912.57910.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <1165429832.3742.20.camel@x1-6-00-0d-60-fd-e8-4c> On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 13:14 -0500, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, sacarde wrote: > > > Hi, > > do you know if exist a script to install fedora-kadischi-LIVE-cd to hard > > disk ? > > No. > > This is one of the reasons we're moving to Pilgrim -- because those plans > *are* in the Pilgrim roadmap. 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Site is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD Mailing list is this one. Rahul From gdk at redhat.com Wed Dec 6 18:37:48 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:37:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] script kadischi to HDD In-Reply-To: <1165429832.3742.20.camel@x1-6-00-0d-60-fd-e8-4c> References: <200612061912.57910.sacarde@tiscali.it> <1165429832.3742.20.camel@x1-6-00-0d-60-fd-e8-4c> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Forrest Taylor wrote: > Is there a site/mailing list for Pilgrim? At some point, this will become the primary mailing list for Pilgrim, I believe. Stay tuned. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From cdlaforc at centurytel.net Thu Dec 7 05:14:34 2006 From: cdlaforc at centurytel.net (Chris & Melinda LaForce) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:14:34 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to use liveusb.sh Message-ID: <1165468474.2211.5.camel@cdlfedora01.localdomain> Hello, I am very interested in install FC6 to my usb memory key. I would very much appreciate it if someone could explain to me the use of the liveusb.sh script. I'm kind of confused on the parameters of package and group and how to pass them in, and anything that needs to be done manually before running this script, like what should the usb key be formatted as(ext3)? My hope is to get this running and install Cisco Vpn client on it. Is that possible and would I do that after staging the usb key or is that something I need to incorporate into the liveusb.sh script. Thanks for any help on this subject. Chris. From danjde at msw.it Thu Dec 7 12:00:58 2006 From: danjde at msw.it (Davide Marchi) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:00:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi live cd build errors [solved] + unoffical repository Message-ID: <4578027A.7010004@msw.it> > > Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:26:52 -0500 > From: Jesse Keating > Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi live cd build errors > To: fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <200612061126.52492.jkeating at redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Wednesday 06 December 2006 05:43, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> > If you're on x86_64, I compiled a new mkinitrd that may help: >> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2006-December/msg00004.h >> >tml >> > >> > Brian, did the packages help you? ? Are you i386 or x86_64? ? (Ingo, I >> > confirm this parted/mkinitrd mismatch on i386 as well as x86_64) >> > >> > If neither of you are on x86_64, you may have to recompile the srpm for >> > i386. ? You can find the srpm here: >> > http://www.tiki-lounge.com/~toshio/fedora/mkinitrd-5.1.19-1.0.0.1.src.rpm >> > > Or just use the mkinitrd from updates-testing. i've installed the mkinitrd from updates-testing, (and two dipendencies of them..now i don remember..GASP!), and now it works fine;-) very very thanks!! (a lot!) for the second question on object, i would want to ask to you: how to add unofficial repository on to the initially phase of re-build?? Where is the repo.conf, if this exist? many thanks, again;-) ciao! -- cosmogonia noprovarenofareononfarenonc'?provare -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am continuing to work on improving this script, but you can see my current version at ftp://ftp.applios.net/pub/fjb/LiveUSB/liveusb.sh Any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks, Fred J. Bourgeois, III From cdlaforc at centurytel.net Fri Dec 8 23:49:16 2006 From: cdlaforc at centurytel.net (Chris & Melinda LaForce) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:49:16 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] updated liveusb,sh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1165621756.2211.15.camel@cdlfedora01.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:46 -0800, Fred J. Bourgeois, III wrote: > I made some changes to Jasper Hartline's excellent liveusb.sh > script, mostly to make sure that files are taken from repos and > not a (possibly different distro) local installation. Also, my > version inlines the calls to fdisk and grub, and adds default > values for PACKAGES, GROUPLIST, ROOTPATH. I hope this is okay? > These changes were sparked because I am still running FC5 on my > main machine, but want to build an FC6 flashdrive system. (I > also "preserve" the yum cache to take advantage of my local repo, > something you may not want to do in the release version.) > > I am continuing to work on improving this script, but you can see > my current version at > ftp://ftp.applios.net/pub/fjb/LiveUSB/liveusb.sh > Any feedback would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Fred J. Bourgeois, III > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > Fred, I have been looking to try out the liveusb.sh script. I possible can you explain to me kind of how to use it including any pre installation step that need to be preformed on the usb media(ie. formating, partitioning) Thanks in advance, Chris. From FJB3 at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 9 00:10:54 2006 From: FJB3 at sbcglobal.net (Fred J. Bourgeois, III) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:10:54 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] updated liveusb.sh Message-ID: On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:49:16 -0600, Chris & Melinda LaForce wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:46 -0800, Fred J. Bourgeois, III wrote: > > my current version at > > ftp://ftp.applios.net/pub/fjb/LiveUSB/liveusb.sh > > Any feedback would be appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > Fred J. Bourgeois, III > > Fred, > I have been looking to try out the liveusb.sh script. I possible can > you explain to me kind of how to use it including any pre installation > step that need to be preformed on the usb media(ie. formating, > partitioning) > Thanks in advance, > Chris. Hi Chris: This script just creates an image (in a file) of a bootable USB filesystem. Jasper's original version required a few options on the command line, but my changes set some very generic defaults for those required options. The main thing you need to be prepared for is building your image in a partition that has enough free disc space - about 1GB if you choose the default values. Here is an example of how I run it (as root): liveusb.sh --root="/tmp/liveusb.work/liveusb.root" After the script completes you will have an image file named /tmp/liveusb.work/liveusb-final.image ... you will then write this to your flashdrive via dd: dd if=/tmp/liveusb.work/liveusb-final.image of=/dev/Your-USB-Device Typically, "Your-USB-Device" will look like a SCSI device, named something like (but not necessarily exactly): /dev/sdc . I hope that helps. -fjb -- Fred J. Bourgeois, III From sacarde at tiscali.it Sat Dec 9 11:40:55 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:40:55 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] script kadischi to HDD In-Reply-To: References: <200612061912.57910.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <200612091240.55585.sacarde@tiscali.it> Alle 19:14, mercoled? 6 dicembre 2006, hai scritto: I try 1) cp -a /bin/* /mnt/hda8/bin/ cp -a /boot/* /mnt/hda8/boot/ cp -a /etc/* /mnt/hda8/etc/ cp -a /home/* /mnt/hda8/home/ cp -a /initrd/* /mnt/hda8/initrd/ cp -a /lib/* /mnt/hda8/lib/ cp -a /misc/* /mnt/hda8/misc/ cp -a /opt/* /mnt/hda8/opt/ cp -a /root/* /mnt/hda8/root/ cp -a /sbin/* /mnt/hda8/sbin/ cp -a /selinux/* /mnt/hda8/selinux/ cp -a /srv/* /mnt/hda8/srv/ cp -a /usr/* /mnt/hda8/usr/ cp -a /var/* /mnt/hda8/var/ 2) chroot /mnt/hda8 /bin/bash 3) mknod -m 600 /dev/console c 5 1 mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3 4) mkdir /proc mkdir /dev mkdir /dev/pts mkdir /dev/shm mkdir /sys adjust /etc/fstab .......... /dev/hda8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hdb6 swap swap defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0 then, when I reboot I have loading kernel loading initrd ... ... switching to new root and running init unmounting old /dev unmounting old /proc unmounting old /sys switcroot: mount failed: : nosuch file or directory kernel panic what I wrong ? thankyou sacarde From enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it Mon Dec 11 13:09:19 2006 From: enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it (Enzo Marinari) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:09:19 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 Message-ID: I am trying to run LiveFedoraCore 6 on a compaq nx 7010: boot hangs on dkms_autoinstaller. I noticed somewhere that someone else had the same problem. Any comment/help/hint? Thanks From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Dec 11 13:19:35 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:19:35 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200612110819.35911.jkeating@redhat.com> On Monday 11 December 2006 08:09, Enzo Marinari wrote: > I am trying to run LiveFedoraCore 6 on a compaq nx 7010: boot hangs on > dkms_autoinstaller. > I noticed somewhere that someone else had the same problem. Any > comment/help/hint? Where did you get this CD? -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Any > > comment/help/hint? > > Where did you get this CD? > > -- > Jesse Keating > Release Engineer: Fedora > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > > > -- Enzo Marinari - Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Roma "La Sapienza", P. A. Moro 2, 00185 Roma (Italy). Tel.: +39-0649914363 Fax: +39-0697257050 E-mail: Enzo.Marinari at roma1.infn.it WWW: http://chimera.roma1.infn.it/ENZO From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Dec 11 14:00:37 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:00:37 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 In-Reply-To: References: <200612110819.35911.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200612110900.37988.jkeating@redhat.com> On Monday 11 December 2006 08:52, Enzo Marinari wrote: > I downloaded it from the torrent and I burned it. It is the DVD ()i.e. > complete indeed. "the torrent" doesn't answer anything. Please try again. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it Mon Dec 11 14:11:18 2006 From: enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it (Enzo Marinari) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:11:18 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 In-Reply-To: <200612110900.37988.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <200612110819.35911.jkeating@redhat.com> <200612110900.37988.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: Very good. Sorry. I usd Firefox to download a file: http://torrent.fedoraunity.org/unity/FC-6-x86_64-LiveDVD-Unity-20061024.torrent This file opened, in a quasi-magical way for me, the application transmission-gtk (on a Fedora Core 6 system) that merrily downloaded an ISO image, : FC-6-i386-Unity-20061024-LiveDVD.iso To write it down on a DVD I scp-ed this iso image to a Windows XP system, and there I burned a DVD. The resulting DVD starts the machine, lets me select options at the start, begins the boot procedure (with ENTER or with linux, not with linuxsmp that I tried just in case since I have only one processor there) but hangs... Ask more if needed and I will try my best... Enzo On 12/11/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Monday 11 December 2006 08:52, Enzo Marinari wrote: > > I downloaded it from the torrent and I burned it. It is the DVD ()i.e. > > complete indeed. > > "the torrent" doesn't answer anything. Please try again. > > -- > Jesse Keating > Release Engineer: Fedora > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > > > -- Enzo Marinari - Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Roma "La Sapienza", P. A. Moro 2, 00185 Roma (Italy). Tel.: +39-0649914363 Fax: +39-0697257050 E-mail: Enzo.Marinari at roma1.infn.it WWW: http://chimera.roma1.infn.it/ENZO From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Dec 11 15:32:03 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:32:03 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 In-Reply-To: References: <200612110900.37988.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200612111032.06228.jkeating@redhat.com> On Monday 11 December 2006 09:11, Enzo Marinari wrote: > Ask more if needed and I will try my best... Ah, so that was built with Kadischi. I cannot help there, sorry. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it Mon Dec 11 15:42:58 2006 From: enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it (Enzo Marinari) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:42:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 In-Reply-To: <200612111032.06228.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <200612110900.37988.jkeating@redhat.com> <200612111032.06228.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: Now thanks to the new information I understood (at least partially) and learned about the situation (I did not find this fact on the fedoraunity site), and I am donwloading Zod-livecd-beta-20061130-i386. I will try and I will report any trouble. Thanks. Enzo On 12/11/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Monday 11 December 2006 09:11, Enzo Marinari wrote: > > Ask more if needed and I will try my best... > > Ah, so that was built with Kadischi. I cannot help there, sorry. > > -- > Jesse Keating > Release Engineer: Fedora > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > > > -- Enzo Marinari - Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Roma "La Sapienza", P. A. Moro 2, 00185 Roma (Italy). Tel.: +39-0649914363 Fax: +39-0697257050 E-mail: Enzo.Marinari at roma1.infn.it WWW: http://chimera.roma1.infn.it/ENZO From cdlaforc at centurytel.net Mon Dec 11 19:32:21 2006 From: cdlaforc at centurytel.net (Chris & Melinda LaForce) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:32:21 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] updated liveusb,sh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1165865541.4744.7.camel@cdlfedora01.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:46 -0800, Fred J. Bourgeois, III wrote: > I made some changes to Jasper Hartline's excellent liveusb.sh > script, mostly to make sure that files are taken from repos and > not a (possibly different distro) local installation. Also, my > version inlines the calls to fdisk and grub, and adds default > values for PACKAGES, GROUPLIST, ROOTPATH. I hope this is okay? > These changes were sparked because I am still running FC5 on my > main machine, but want to build an FC6 flashdrive system. (I > also "preserve" the yum cache to take advantage of my local repo, > something you may not want to do in the release version.) > > I am continuing to work on improving this script, but you can see > my current version at > ftp://ftp.applios.net/pub/fjb/LiveUSB/liveusb.sh > Any feedback would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Fred J. Bourgeois, III > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > Fred, Thanks for the help. I have created the image file and put it on my usb device, but I haven't be able to boot it up. I tried 2 different memory keys(Cruzer mini 1.0 GB, Memorex TravelDrive mini 1.0 GB) on 2 different machines and had no luck. I know I booted from usb on these before and have the boot order set to be usb device first. I'm not sure what the problem may be here. Here's how I setup the usb media before dd'ing the file over: mke2fs -j /dev/sda tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/sda Let me know if you can offer any help. Thanks, Chris. From FJB3 at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 11 23:54:10 2006 From: FJB3 at sbcglobal.net (Fred J. Bourgeois, III) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:54:10 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: updated liveusb.sh Message-ID: --- Original Message --- From: Chris & Melinda LaForce To: "Fred J. Bourgeois, III" Subject: Re: updated liveusb.sh >On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 16:10 -0800, Fred J. Bourgeois, III wrote: >> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:49:16 -0600, Chris & Melinda LaForce >> wrote: >> On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:46 -0800, Fred J. Bourgeois, III wrote: >> > > my current version at >> > > ftp://ftp.applios.net/pub/fjb/LiveUSB/liveusb.sh >> > > Any feedback would be appreciated! >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Fred J. Bourgeois, III >> > >> > Fred, >> > I have been looking to try out the liveusb.sh script. I >> possible can >> > you explain to me kind of how to use it including any pre >> installation >> > step that need to be preformed on the usb media(ie. formating, >> > partitioning) >> > Thanks in advance, >> > Chris. >> >> Hi Chris: >> >> This script just creates an image (in a file) of a bootable USB >> filesystem. Jasper's original version required a few options on >> the command line, but my changes set some very generic defaults >> for those required options. The main thing you need to be >> prepared for is building your image in a partition that has >> enough free disc space - about 1GB if you choose the default values. >> >> Here is an example of how I run it (as root): >> liveusb.sh --root="/tmp/liveusb.work/liveusb.root" >> >> After the script completes you will have an image file named >> /tmp/liveusb.work/liveusb-final.image ... you will then write >> this to your flashdrive via dd: >> dd if=/tmp/liveusb.work/liveusb-final.image of=/dev/Your-USB-Device >> >> Typically, "Your-USB-Device" will look like a SCSI device, named >> something like (but not necessarily exactly): /dev/sdc . >> >> I hope that helps. >> -fjb >> >> -- >> Fred J. Bourgeois, III >> >> >Fred, > Thanks for the help. I have created the image file and put it on my >usb device, but I haven't be able to boot it up. I tried 2 different >memory keys(Cruzer mini 1.0 GB, Memorex TravelDrive mini 1.0 GB) on 2 >different machines and had no luck. I know I booted from usb on these >before and have the boot order set to be usb device first. I'm not sure >what the problem may be here. Here's how I setup the usb media before >dd'ing the file over: > >mke2fs -j /dev/sda > >tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/sda > >Let me know if you can offer any help. >Thanks, > >Chris. Hi Chris: You should not need to use mke2fs before writing the image to the USB device. The file system is all built-in to the image file, and the dd command writes everything (boot block, partition table, and fs contents) to the USB device. One thing to look at carefully is to make sure that your USB device really is using /dev/sda, and not /dev/sd[bcd] ... and also make sure that when using dd you set of=/dev/sda (if your device is /dev/sda) and NOT /dev/sda1 (this would be the first partition on /dev/sda). I made a few more changes to the liveusb.sh script, to account for different USB devices (you can now specify the device on the command line) and the new version is available at the same location (ftp://ftp.applios.net/pub/fjb/LiveUSB/liveusb.sh). From enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it Tue Dec 12 06:48:02 2006 From: enzo.marinari at roma1.infn.it (Enzo Marinari) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:48:02 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] hang on dkms_autoinstaller for LiveFedoraCore 6 In-Reply-To: References: <200612110900.37988.jkeating@redhat.com> <200612111032.06228.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: Thanks I burned Zod-livecd-beta-20061130-i386 and it boots flawlessy (always getting the display right) on the compaq nx 7010, on a sony vaio and on a Dell Inspiron 5150. Best regards Enzo On 12/11/06, Enzo Marinari wrote: > Now thanks to the new information I understood (at least partially) > and learned about the situation (I did not find this fact on the > fedoraunity site), and I am donwloading > Zod-livecd-beta-20061130-i386. > > I will try and I will report any trouble. > > Thanks. > > Enzo > > On 12/11/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Monday 11 December 2006 09:11, Enzo Marinari wrote: > > > Ask more if needed and I will try my best... > > > > Ah, so that was built with Kadischi. I cannot help there, sorry. > > > > -- > > Jesse Keating > > Release Engineer: Fedora > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Enzo Marinari - Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Roma "La Sapienza", > P. A. Moro 2, 00185 Roma (Italy). Tel.: +39-0649914363 Fax: +39-0697257050 > E-mail: Enzo.Marinari at roma1.infn.it WWW: http://chimera.roma1.infn.it/ENZO > -- Enzo Marinari - Dipartimento di Fisica, Universita' di Roma "La Sapienza", P. A. Moro 2, 00185 Roma (Italy). Tel.: +39-0649914363 Fax: +39-0697257050 E-mail: Enzo.Marinari at roma1.infn.it WWW: http://chimera.roma1.infn.it/ENZO From tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org Tue Dec 12 10:17:06 2006 From: tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org (Tomo Vučković) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:17:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <36003.194.247.205.210.1165918626.squirrel@webmail.atomixlinux.org> Atomix Live 4.0 build with Kadischi available for download at : ftp://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/AtomixLinux/4.0/live/Atomix-4.0-live.iso Screenshot preview : http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Atomix%204.0 -- S Po?tovanjem Tomo Vučković Atomix Solutions doo, Novi Sad Maksima Gorkog 2 e-mail: tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org www.atomix-solutions.com www.atomixlinux.org www.atomix.co.yu From tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org Tue Dec 12 10:30:52 2006 From: tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org (Tomo Vučković) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:30:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Atomix Live 4.0 Message-ID: <46849.194.247.205.210.1165919452.squirrel@webmail.atomixlinux.org> Atomix Live 4.0 build with Kadischi available for download at : ftp://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/AtomixLinux/4.0/live/Atomix-4.0-live.iso Screenshot preview : http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Atomix%204.0 -- S Po?tovanjem Tomo Vučković Atomix Solutions doo, Novi Sad Maksima Gorkog 2 e-mail: tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org www.atomix-solutions.com www.atomixlinux.org www.atomix.co.yu -- S Po?tovanjem Tomo Vučković Atomix Solutions doo, Novi Sad Maksima Gorkog 2 e-mail: tomo.vuckovic at atomixlinux.org www.atomix-solutions.com www.atomixlinux.org www.atomix.co.yu From sacarde at tiscali.it Tue Dec 12 18:57:29 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:57:29 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Atomix Live 4.0 In-Reply-To: <46849.194.247.205.210.1165919452.squirrel@webmail.atomixlinux.org> References: <46849.194.247.205.210.1165919452.squirrel@webmail.atomixlinux.org> Message-ID: <200612121957.30341.sacarde@tiscali.it> Alle 11:30, marted? 12 dicembre 2006, Tomo Vučković ha scritto: > ftp://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/AtomixLinux/4.0/live/Atomix-4.0-liv >e.iso for now only DVD ? From bvarney at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 20:44:21 2006 From: bvarney at gmail.com (Brian Varney) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:44:21 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Xorg -configure during boot? Message-ID: <19dc81ae0612121244v552c405apa0ec242927374949@mail.gmail.com> It seems like the preffered method of setting up X for Kadischi is using "vesa" driver. This works on a lot of machines but not all. If I get a machine that it doesn't work on, I can get X up and running with these commands: init 3 Xorg -configure cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf init 5 I would like to be able to run "Xorg -configure" and use the generated " new.xorg.conf" to run X with automatically on the livecd. I'm not sure where I would put this. Looking for suggestions.... Thanks for any help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdogalt at yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 00:52:02 2006 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] feasibility of using xen to produce installed system images? Message-ID: <803625.20290.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In my project, I'm using qemu to generate system images as a non-root user. I've never used xen, as I have yet to discover as trivial a usage of it as qemu provides. (i.e. no configuration, a simple commandline, and there you are booting a livecd in a window). But that may just be a matter of time. I'm wondering if any of you, particularly xen leaning redhat folks, have considered using it as a sandbox to create installed system images in? E.g. that could then be modified by a script, and rolled into a live iso/usbimage? I have suspected that even if xen can do this, I'd still prefer qemu because I'm picky about the install system being given any access to information about the host build system. I.e. even processor type, let alone access to the host build system's root filesystem. (Yeah, I know, it's building to qemu's hardware... for some reason I can accept that more easily) The main thing that qemu solves for me, as opposed to pilgrims implementation of an alternate fedora installer, is the ability to run purely as a user. So one of my narrow questions is- can Xen do the same? I suppose its a rather minor quibble if you have to do some root configuration of xen or something, but again, that's one reason why I like qemu so much. Then there is the news about this KVM thing, which makes qemu even more attractive. Although it sort of sounds functionally equivalent to the non-free qemu kernel accelerator, for a limited set of hardware. (though that still sounds great). Anyway, forgive me for not reading the xen docs/faqs, but I'm assuming I can get a better/quicker answer off the top of some of your heads. -dmc/jdog __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From skunkworx at verizon.net Sat Dec 16 03:27:12 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:27:12 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc6 dvd builds fixed by latest yum updates. Message-ID: <45836790.4000701@verizon.net> I noticed others have been having the same problem as me. Initially fc6 could build kadischi dvds, but a yum update broke a dependency somewhere along the line. The yum updates from yesterday fixed it for me. on i386 anyway. --- John From netdxr at gmail.com Sat Dec 16 14:52:34 2006 From: netdxr at gmail.com (Tom Lisjac) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] feasibility of using xen to produce installed system images? In-Reply-To: <803625.20290.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <803625.20290.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <863ff4520612160652n43359ef1n7d668d993fd7e53b@mail.gmail.com> On 12/13/06, Jane Dogalt wrote: > In my project, I'm using qemu to generate system images as a non-root > user. I've never used xen, as I have yet to discover as trivial a > usage of it as qemu provides. (i.e. no configuration, a simple > commandline, and there you are booting a livecd in a window). > I'm wondering if any of you, particularly xen leaning redhat folks, > have considered using it as a sandbox to create installed system images > in? E.g. that could then be modified by a script, and rolled into a > live iso/usbimage? For doing generic installs, the combination of qemu, kqemu and vde2 would be difficult to beat. In addition to running in user space, as you pointed out, qemu provides a pure emulation model for a target processor, bios, network device and video card. The optional kernel acceleration module raises it's performance to nearly bare metal. Xen has a different architecture... it's a true hypervisor that requires a kernel presence and either cpu support for pure virtualization (vmx:Intel, smx:AMD) or modifications to the guest os. As a result, it's not very useful for doing arbitrary os image builds from generic install media. FC6 provides a Xen aware kernel that can be used with the Virtual Machine Manager to do kickstart vm image builds. Patched dom0 and guest os kernels are also available from xensource.com along with a live cd demo. I'm planning to do a lot more work with Xen. It's fast, efficient and ideal for consolidating groups of underutilized servers into a few well provisioned machines. For building portable install images from generic media, however, qemu will remain my tool of choice. -Tom From davidz at redhat.com Fri Dec 22 18:32:46 2006 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:32:46 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools Message-ID: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> Hi, After lots of feedback, bug fixing and testing of the beta live CD announced 3 weeks ago, I'm pleased to announce the first official Fedora live CD. This live CD is based on packages from the Fedora Core 6 (codenamed "Zod") and Fedora Extras package collections and is such 100% free software. At a glance, the live CD features o Linux 2.6.18 o GNOME 2.16 desktop environment o GStreamer 0.10 multimedia framework o X.org 7.1 o AIGLX and Compiz for 3D desktop o Lots of applications including, but not limited to o Beagle (Desktop Search) o F-Spot (Photo Management) o Evolution (Email and Calendering) o Firefox (Web Browsing) o Ekiga (IP telephony) o Rhythmbox (Music Player) o Totem (Movie Player) o Games (Games) o The Gimp (Graphics) o Inkscape (Vector Graphics) o Abiword (Word Processor) o Gnumeric (Spreadsheet) o nautilus-open-terminal (For the adult in you) o Assistive Technology including the Orca screen reader o NetworkManager is on by default o VPN connectivity software including vnpc and OpenVPN o Partition editing via GParted o SELinux targeted mode including the SELinux trouble shooter o Many many fonts; almost 100% coverage o All the localizations included in FC6 and FC6 o All the input methods (SCIM) present in FC6 o Exclusive live CD wallpaper you won't find in FC6 or FE6! o R/W file system so you can install software on the running live CD o Ability to run from RAM if you have 1GB or more of memory o and lots and lots more.. The live CD is currently only available for i386 architectures. Support for other architectures including ppc and x86_64 is planned. The live cd weighs around 682MB. Download from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/projects/live/FC-6-i386-livecd-1.iso SHA1SUM: 8771d21af1974492424438cbe42f1bae0161ea96 FC-6-i386-livecd-1.iso or get on the Torrent using http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Zod-livecd-1-i386.torrent Feedback can be given in Bugzilla; file a bug against the component you have an issue with.. and make it block this tracker bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=FC6LiveCDTracker if you believe it's a live CD specific bug. Don't get burned on Christmas shopping, burn the gift of a live CD! ==== This live CD is built using a source code based on the pilgrim project. This is an open project and participation is encouraged and appreciated. See these documents on how to get involved hacking on the code and what it's all about http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=users/david/livecd-tools.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=HACKING http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=users/david/livecd-tools.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=README Participate on the Fedora Live CD mailing list and the Wiki page to make the Fedora live CD experience even better http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list The livecd-tools and fedora-livecd packages, which is required to rebuild the live CD, have just been submitted to Fedora Extras, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220635 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220637 for details. Until these packages are in Extras, you can grab source and binary i386 packages from here http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/ and start cranking out your own live CD's. Thanks and a merry Christmas break to everyone! David From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 22 19:36:13 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:36:13 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator Message-ID: <369bce3b0612221136w6e80ec5fhbf77a5a9f8e60e5e@mail.gmail.com> Hmm, I don't see system-config-network. How are we expecting users to configure network if they are on static ip? Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jkeating at redhat.com Fri Dec 22 19:45:13 2006 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:45:13 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612221136w6e80ec5fhbf77a5a9f8e60e5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612221136w6e80ec5fhbf77a5a9f8e60e5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200612221445.13283.jkeating@redhat.com> On Friday 22 December 2006 14:36, Thomas Chung wrote: > I don't see system-config-network. > How are we expecting users to configure network if they are on static ip? > Regards, Hah, good point, I hadn't realized this was missing. Unfortunately you'll probably have to go the ifconfig route. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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David From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 22 19:46:54 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:46:54 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <200612221445.13283.jkeating@redhat.com> References: <369bce3b0612221136w6e80ec5fhbf77a5a9f8e60e5e@mail.gmail.com> <200612221445.13283.jkeating@redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612221146j3c7187efk94d817d47ce59b1@mail.gmail.com> On 12/22/06, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 14:36, Thomas Chung wrote: > > I don't see system-config-network. > > How are we expecting users to configure network if they are on static ip? > > Regards, > > Hah, good point, I hadn't realized this was missing. Unfortunately you'll > probably have to go the ifconfig route. Can you point to a good online document for ifconfig? Once again, this is for newbie. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 22 20:26:26 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:26:26 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <1166816689.2752.112.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> References: <369bce3b0612221136w6e80ec5fhbf77a5a9f8e60e5e@mail.gmail.com> <1166816689.2752.112.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612221226k624cebdar84acefb931fe7772@mail.gmail.com> On 12/22/06, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 11:36 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Hmm, > > I don't see system-config-network. > > How are we expecting users to configure network if they are on static ip? > > The command line ought to work > > su - > service NetworkManager stop > ifconfig eth0 up > dhclient eth0 > > I also thought of saying "just install it via yum" but then I realized > that requires the network. But really, this is more a bug with > NetworkManager we want to fix anyway. > > David Thank you David, For static, I had to edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and /etc/resolve.conf http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From notting at redhat.com Sat Dec 23 02:25:24 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:25:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612221146j3c7187efk94d817d47ce59b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612221136w6e80ec5fhbf77a5a9f8e60e5e@mail.gmail.com> <200612221445.13283.jkeating@redhat.com> <369bce3b0612221146j3c7187efk94d817d47ce59b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061223022524.GA8634@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Thomas Chung (tchung at fedoraproject.org) said: > >Hah, good point, I hadn't realized this was missing. Unfortunately you'll > >probably have to go the ifconfig route. > > Can you point to a good online document for ifconfig? > Once again, this is for newbie. Newbies need static IP? (I'm curious.) Bill From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 23 03:01:48 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:01:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612221146j3c7187efk94d817d47ce59b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <781049.52962.qm@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> --- Thomas Chung wrote: > On 12/22/06, Jesse Keating > wrote: > > On Friday 22 December 2006 14:36, Thomas Chung > wrote: > > > I don't see system-config-network. > > > How are we expecting users to configure network > if they are on static ip? > > > Regards, > > > > Hah, good point, I hadn't realized this was > missing. Unfortunately you'll > > probably have to go the ifconfig route. > > Can you point to a good online document for > ifconfig? > Once again, this is for newbie. ifconfig eth0 AA.BBB.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.2555.0 route add default gateway XX.YYY.ZZZ.??? echo "nameserver ???.???.????.????" >> /etc/resolv.conf should get the job done. Regards, Antonio > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 23 03:03:59 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:03:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612221146j3c7187efk94d817d47ce59b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <590827.22672.qm@web52601.mail.yahoo.com> --- Thomas Chung wrote: > On 12/22/06, Jesse Keating > wrote: > > On Friday 22 December 2006 14:36, Thomas Chung > wrote: > > > I don't see system-config-network. > > > How are we expecting users to configure network > if they are on static ip? > > > Regards, > > > > Hah, good point, I hadn't realized this was > missing. Unfortunately you'll > > probably have to go the ifconfig route. > > Can you point to a good online document for > ifconfig? > Once again, this is for newbie. Sorry for other post, did not read about online document http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mansec?1M+ifconfig Regards, Antonio > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 23 05:07:18 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:07:18 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC6-Zod-LiveCD Network Configurator In-Reply-To: <781049.52962.qm@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <369bce3b0612221146j3c7187efk94d817d47ce59b1@mail.gmail.com> <781049.52962.qm@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612222107x442c3f83wc5c86f37f4f9b271@mail.gmail.com> On 12/22/06, Antonio Olivares wrote: > --- Thomas Chung wrote: > > > On 12/22/06, Jesse Keating > > wrote: > > > On Friday 22 December 2006 14:36, Thomas Chung > > wrote: > > > > I don't see system-config-network. > > > > How are we expecting users to configure network > > if they are on static ip? > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Hah, good point, I hadn't realized this was > > missing. Unfortunately you'll > > > probably have to go the ifconfig route. > > > > Can you point to a good online document for > > ifconfig? > > Once again, this is for newbie. > > ifconfig eth0 AA.BBB.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.2555.0 > route add default gateway XX.YYY.ZZZ.??? > echo "nameserver ???.???.????.????" >> > /etc/resolv.conf > > should get the job done. > > Regards, > > Antonio Thank you all, I've decided to write my own document for configuring network on LiveCD based on tips I've received so far. I hope this is useful for newbies. :) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sacarde at tiscali.it Sat Dec 23 15:40:26 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:40:26 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> Message-ID: <200612231640.26802.sacarde@tiscali.it> Alle 19:32, venerd? 22 dicembre 2006, David Zeuthen ha scritto: hey very very good fedora-live I simply ask how install to hard disk, and then customize with KDE (yum) thank you > > After lots of feedback, bug fixing and testing of the beta live CD > announced 3 weeks ago, I'm pleased to announce the first official Fedora > live CD. This live CD is based on packages from the Fedora Core 6 > (codenamed "Zod") and Fedora Extras package collections and is such 100% > free software. At a glance, the live CD features > > o Linux 2.6.18 > o GNOME 2.16 desktop environment > o GStreamer 0.10 multimedia framework > o X.org 7.1 > o AIGLX and Compiz for 3D desktop > o Lots of applications including, but not limited to > o Beagle (Desktop Search) > o F-Spot (Photo Management) > o Evolution (Email and Calendering) > o Firefox (Web Browsing) > o Ekiga (IP telephony) > o Rhythmbox (Music Player) > o Totem (Movie Player) > o Games (Games) > o The Gimp (Graphics) > o Inkscape (Vector Graphics) > o Abiword (Word Processor) > o Gnumeric (Spreadsheet) > o nautilus-open-terminal (For the adult in you) > o Assistive Technology including the Orca screen reader > o NetworkManager is on by default > o VPN connectivity software including vnpc and OpenVPN > o Partition editing via GParted > o SELinux targeted mode including the SELinux trouble shooter > o Many many fonts; almost 100% coverage > o All the localizations included in FC6 and FC6 > o All the input methods (SCIM) present in FC6 > o Exclusive live CD wallpaper you won't find in FC6 or FE6! > o R/W file system so you can install software on the running live CD > o Ability to run from RAM if you have 1GB or more of memory > > o and lots and lots more.. > From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 23 17:00:20 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:00:20 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: <200612231640.26802.sacarde@tiscali.it> References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> <200612231640.26802.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612230900t3d8123f6i831bf54146b579db@mail.gmail.com> On 12/23/06, sacarde wrote: > I simply ask how install to hard disk, and then customize with KDE (yum) I believe they are one of the *Wishlist*. Please refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Tue Dec 26 23:27:53 2006 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:27:53 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> Message-ID: On 12/22/06, David Zeuthen wrote: > > Hi, > > After lots of feedback, bug fixing and testing of the beta live CD > announced 3 weeks ago, I'm pleased to announce the first official Fedora > live CD. This live CD is based on packages from the Fedora Core 6 > (codenamed "Zod") and Fedora Extras package collections and is such 100% > free software. At a glance, the live CD features > ... > > for details. Until these packages are in Extras, you can grab source and > binary i386 packages from here > > http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/ > > and start cranking out your own live CD's. > Hi, I'm trying to build a live cd with tool from http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/ I see error: /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/fixfiles': No such file or directory In Python script, I see this command: os.system("/usr/sbin/chroot %s/install_root /sbin/fixfiles restore"%(self.build_dir)) How to fix this error please. TIA, -- http://vnoss.org -- http://vnoss.org From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 26 23:44:29 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:44:29 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612261544s61d08e87n76bd096853f38613@mail.gmail.com> On 12/26/06, Vnpenguin wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to build a live cd with tool from > http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/ > I see error: > > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/fixfiles': No such file or directory > > In Python script, I see this command: > > os.system("/usr/sbin/chroot %s/install_root /sbin/fixfiles > restore"%(self.build_dir)) > > How to fix this error please. $ rpm -qf /sbin/fixfiles policycoreutils-1.33.6-3.fc6 It seems you're missing "policycoreutils" Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Tue Dec 26 23:47:48 2006 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:47:48 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612261544s61d08e87n76bd096853f38613@mail.gmail.com> References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> <369bce3b0612261544s61d08e87n76bd096853f38613@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/27/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > $ rpm -qf /sbin/fixfiles > policycoreutils-1.33.6-3.fc6 > > It seems you're missing "policycoreutils" > No, I have it on my box, $ rpm -q policycoreutils policycoreutils-1.33.6-3.fc6 $ ls -l /sbin/fixfiles -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6066 Dec 6 22:05 /sbin/fixfiles The problem here is in "chroot" environment, IMHO. Regards, -- http://vnoss.org From julien.pinel at gmail.com Wed Dec 27 00:03:00 2006 From: julien.pinel at gmail.com (julien Pinel) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:03:00 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> <369bce3b0612261544s61d08e87n76bd096853f38613@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a3ccab00612261603g3334dc29ta0720484420b696f@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have just tested kadischi, witch do a really good job ! Just wanted to thanks. ps Vnpenguin: I had probl?me in my chroot environement at a time because my partition wasn't mounter with the exec flag in fstab. Regards, 2006/12/27, Vnpenguin : > > On 12/27/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > > > $ rpm -qf /sbin/fixfiles > > policycoreutils-1.33.6-3.fc6 > > > > It seems you're missing "policycoreutils" > > > > No, I have it on my box, > $ rpm -q policycoreutils > policycoreutils-1.33.6-3.fc6 > > $ ls -l /sbin/fixfiles > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6066 Dec 6 22:05 /sbin/fixfiles > > The problem here is in "chroot" environment, IMHO. > > Regards, > -- > http://vnoss.org > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -- Julien Pinel - julien.pinel at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From interlists at gmail.com Wed Dec 27 12:21:47 2006 From: interlists at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:21:47 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] HowTo install live-cd? (Newbie). Message-ID: <828122ea0612270421l5e6f6286v457fcb0e30ae8782@mail.gmail.com> I have been trying to find a way to install the new live-cd on my IBM ThinkCentre A50p, but unlike Ubuntu, I don't see any obvious way of doing this. Is this something left for the future or am I missing something that is very obvious? Is there a HowTo floating around? Cheers, Brian From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 27 12:21:07 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:51:07 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] HowTo install live-cd? (Newbie). In-Reply-To: <828122ea0612270421l5e6f6286v457fcb0e30ae8782@mail.gmail.com> References: <828122ea0612270421l5e6f6286v457fcb0e30ae8782@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45926533.2050109@fedoraproject.org> Brian Durant wrote: > I have been trying to find a way to install the new live-cd on my IBM > ThinkCentre A50p, but unlike Ubuntu, I don't see any obvious way of > doing this. Is this something left for the future or am I missing > something that is very obvious? Is there a HowTo floating around? > Its on the roadmap. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD. Rahul From jdever at triad.rr.com Thu Dec 28 01:10:04 2006 From: jdever at triad.rr.com (Jim Dever) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:10:04 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Intenet access with LiveCD? Message-ID: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> Hi, I was excited to see the release of the Fedora LiveCD as I'm looking around at different distributions but for some reason I can't get it to see my internet connection at all. If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. NIC: Cnet PRO200WL PCI (not wireless) Router: Linksys RTP300 Output of ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:AD:79:95:90 inet addr: 192.168.15.102 Bcast: 192.168.15.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::280:adiff:fe79:9590/64 Scope: Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric: 1 RX packets: 13 errors: 170 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 frame: 0 TX packets: 0 errors: 10 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 carrier: 10 collisions: 0 txqueuelen: 1000 RX bytes: 2597 (2.5 KiB) TX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) Interrupt: 201 Base address: 0xec00 ----- I noticed that it says UP but not RUNNING. The Ubuntu LiveCD access the internet just fine so I know it's possible to MAKE it work. I just like to see it work before making room for a full install. I've used Linux before but it's been ages ago and before I had a NIC so I'm pretty new to this part. Any help would be appreciated! -- Jim From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 28 01:12:14 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:12:14 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Intenet access with LiveCD? In-Reply-To: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> References: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> On 12/27/06, Jim Dever wrote: > Hi, > > I was excited to see the release of the Fedora LiveCD as I'm looking > around at different distributions but for some reason I can't get it to > see my internet connection at all. > > If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. > > NIC: Cnet PRO200WL PCI (not wireless) > Router: Linksys RTP300 > > Output of ifconfig: > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:AD:79:95:90 > inet addr: 192.168.15.102 Bcast: 192.168.15.255 Mask: 255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::280:adiff:fe79:9590/64 Scope: Link > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric: 1 > RX packets: 13 errors: 170 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 frame: 0 > TX packets: 0 errors: 10 dropped: 0 overruns: 0 carrier: 10 > collisions: 0 txqueuelen: 1000 > RX bytes: 2597 (2.5 KiB) TX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) > Interrupt: 201 Base address: 0xec00 > > ----- > > I noticed that it says UP but not RUNNING. > > The Ubuntu LiveCD access the internet just fine so I know it's possible > to MAKE it work. I just like to see it work before making room for a > full install. > > I've used Linux before but it's been ages ago and before I had a NIC so > I'm pretty new to this part. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > -- > Jim I'm not sure if this will help but please refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jdever at triad.rr.com Thu Dec 28 02:30:26 2006 From: jdever at triad.rr.com (Jim Dever) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:30:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Intenet access with LiveCD? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> References: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45932C42.9090905@triad.rr.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > > I'm not sure if this will help but please refer to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD Thanks! I found your well written wiki earlier and at least it gave me something to try before asking. Unfortunately I've tried configuring both for DHCP and a static IP and the internet is still unreachable. The RUNNING attribute never appears on ifconfig. I may not be doing the static config properly though as I'm not sure what to use for the domain in the "search" keyword in /etc/resolve.conf. Maybe knowing this would help. Any other ideas greatly appreciated! Thanks! -- Jim From jdever at triad.rr.com Thu Dec 28 02:33:14 2006 From: jdever at triad.rr.com (Jim Dever) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Intenet access with LiveCD? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> References: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45932CEA.80306@triad.rr.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > > I'm not sure if this will help but please refer to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD By the way... I tried following your instructions again after you sent me your reply just to see if I screwed up something and had no luck. -- Jim OpenPGP KeyID: 0x006921e Keyserver: ldap://keyserver.pgp.com From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Thu Dec 28 04:34:28 2006 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:34:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Announcing the Fedora 6 Zod live CD and live CD tools In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612261544s61d08e87n76bd096853f38613@mail.gmail.com> References: <1166812366.2752.99.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> <369bce3b0612261544s61d08e87n76bd096853f38613@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/27/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > $ rpm -qf /sbin/fixfiles > policycoreutils-1.33.6-3.fc6 > > It seems you're missing "policycoreutils" > By adding this package into installation package list, this error disappears :) Thanks -- http://vnoss.org From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Thu Dec 28 04:46:25 2006 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:46:25 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Boot error Message-ID: Hi all, Using David's package, I'm trying to create myself a livecd with /etc/livecd/10-fedora-livecd-base.conf like config. I obtain iso file, ok, but when trying to boot it with qemu, I see: ... root (cd) Filesystem type is iso9660, using whole disk kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro quiet root=CDLABEL=LiveCD-20061227 rootfstype=iso9660 livecd [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e00, size=0x1b997f] initrd /boot/livecd-initramfs.img [Linux-initrd @ 0xc522000, 0x2cd149 bytes] Uncompressing Linux... Ok, boot the kernel. PCI: PIIX3: Enabling Passive Release on 0000:00:01.0 mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs' Bug in initramfs /init detected. Fropping to a shell. Good luck! bash: no job control in this shell bash-3.1# I use FC6's latest packages. Don't known how to fix this. Any help will be appreciated. TIA && Happy New Year ! -- http://vnoss.org From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 28 07:00:46 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:00:46 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Boot error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369bce3b0612272300t4a40542fg1bc887e956b1ae40@mail.gmail.com> On 12/27/06, Vnpenguin wrote: > Hi all, > Using David's package, I'm trying to create myself a livecd with > /etc/livecd/10-fedora-livecd-base.conf like config. I obtain iso file, > ok, but when trying to boot it with qemu, I see: > > ... > root (cd) > Filesystem type is iso9660, using whole disk > kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro quiet root=CDLABEL=LiveCD-20061227 > rootfstype=iso9660 livecd > [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e00, size=0x1b997f] > initrd /boot/livecd-initramfs.img > [Linux-initrd @ 0xc522000, 0x2cd149 bytes] > > Uncompressing Linux... Ok, boot the kernel. > PCI: PIIX3: Enabling Passive Release on 0000:00:01.0 > mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs' > Bug in initramfs /init detected. Fropping to a shell. Good luck! > > bash: no job control in this shell > bash-3.1# > > I use FC6's latest packages. Don't known how to fix this. > Any help will be appreciated. It took me a while to figure that one myself. Here is a hit. :) # rpm -qlp kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686.rpm | grep squashfs /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs/squashfs.ko You might want to use either 2798 or 2849 but not 2868 for your installation package list. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Thu Dec 28 07:28:02 2006 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:28:02 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Boot error In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612272300t4a40542fg1bc887e956b1ae40@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612272300t4a40542fg1bc887e956b1ae40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12/28/06, Thomas Chung wrote: > > It took me a while to figure that one myself. Here is a hit. :) > > # rpm -qlp kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686.rpm | grep squashfs > /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs > /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs/squashfs.ko > > You might want to use either 2798 or 2849 but not 2868 for your > installation package list. > Regards, Thank you so much Thomas ! I'll try now, Regards, -- http://vnoss.org From tony at tgds.net Thu Dec 28 09:05:50 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (Tony Grant) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:05:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wireless and liveCD Message-ID: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> I have been reading the list but not working on my liveCD because my machine died. One issue that I have with Fedora is the impossibility of using ndiswrapper to load Windows drivers for unsupported WiFi chipsets. I have a very nice $2 on ebay Linksys WUSB11v.4 adaptor that caused me much jumping though very large hoops to get working because of the 4K stack issue: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Fedora I followed the instructions there to download a precompiled Fedora 6 kernel It appears to be pretty much impossible to build a liveCD that uses a wireless connection which is a shame because many of the aDSL bundles available now have a WiFi enabled box. Cheers Tony From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 28 09:55:29 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:55:29 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wireless and liveCD In-Reply-To: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612280155w479dadc6kddfa0ccd8e3d6c09@mail.gmail.com> On 12/28/06, Tony Grant wrote: > I have been reading the list but not working on my liveCD because my > machine died. One issue that I have with Fedora is the impossibility of > using ndiswrapper to load Windows drivers for unsupported WiFi chipsets. > > I have a very nice $2 on ebay Linksys WUSB11v.4 adaptor that caused me > much jumping though very large hoops to get working because of the 4K > stack issue: > http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Fedora > I followed the instructions there to download a precompiled Fedora 6 kernel > > It appears to be pretty much impossible to build a liveCD that uses a > wireless connection which is a shame because many of the aDSL bundles > available now have a WiFi enabled box. > > Cheers > Tony FYI, I was able to connect to network using my old Orinoco Classic Gold PC Card[1] on Fedora LiveCD using iwconfig command for wireless configuration[2] [1] http://www.proxim.com/products/wifi/client/goldpccard/index.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD Regards -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tony at tgds.net Thu Dec 28 12:50:39 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (Tony Grant) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:50:39 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wireless and liveCD In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612280155w479dadc6kddfa0ccd8e3d6c09@mail.gmail.com> References: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> <369bce3b0612280155w479dadc6kddfa0ccd8e3d6c09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1167310241.2980.37.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 28 d?cembre 2006 ? 01:55 -0800, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > FYI, I was able to connect to network using my old Orinoco Classic > Gold PC Card[1] > [1] http://www.proxim.com/products/wifi/client/goldpccard/index.html > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD Yes that is a chipset that is supported by the Linux Kernel. Chipsets that are not supported by the kernel and ndiswrapper was the subject of my post. Both of my USB adaptors are cheap and unsupported. Both work just fine with ndiswrapper and device files created in /etc/sysconfig/networking and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. One works with the standard FC5 and 6 kernels but the Linksys requires a kernel with 16K stack size. Tony From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 28 12:54:10 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:24:10 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wireless and liveCD In-Reply-To: <1167310241.2980.37.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> <369bce3b0612280155w479dadc6kddfa0ccd8e3d6c09@mail.gmail.com> <1167310241.2980.37.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <4593BE72.3000902@fedoraproject.org> Tony Grant wrote: > Le jeudi 28 d?cembre 2006 ? 01:55 -0800, Thomas Chung a ?crit : > >> FYI, I was able to connect to network using my old Orinoco Classic >> Gold PC Card[1] >> [1] http://www.proxim.com/products/wifi/client/goldpccard/index.html >> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD > > Yes that is a chipset that is supported by the Linux Kernel. Chipsets > that are not supported by the kernel and ndiswrapper was the subject of > my post. > > Both of my USB adaptors are cheap and unsupported. Both work just fine > with ndiswrapper and device files created in /etc/sysconfig/networking > and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. One works with the standard FC5 and > 6 kernels but the Linksys requires a kernel with 16K stack size. The official Live CD is meant only to support whatever Fedora supports by default otherwise. There is no live cd specific magic. You are very well free to build a Live CD which has a different set of packages and branding if you want to put in 16K kernels and ndiswrapper in them. Why is that impossible to do? Rahul From tony at tgds.net Thu Dec 28 13:15:18 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (Tony Grant) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:15:18 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wireless and liveCD In-Reply-To: <4593BE72.3000902@fedoraproject.org> References: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> <369bce3b0612280155w479dadc6kddfa0ccd8e3d6c09@mail.gmail.com> <1167310241.2980.37.camel@hush.localdomain> <4593BE72.3000902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1167311718.2980.50.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 28 d?cembre 2006 ? 18:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > The official Live CD is meant only to support whatever Fedora supports > by default otherwise. There is no live cd specific magic. You are very > well free to build a Live CD which has a different set of packages and > branding if you want to put in 16K kernels and ndiswrapper in them. Why > is that impossible to do? This is one place where I think Fedora is wrong. It isn't impossible to build a CD that supports ndiswrapper the kernel thing is however working against the end user. Think of the new user who wants to try FC for the first time and who may have any sort of WiFi card. FC liveCD can not have all the Windows drivers for every WiFi card on the market that is common sense. But delivering a kernel that prevents ndiswrapper from working with adaptors made by Linksys - one of the major networking players - is a non sense... This is just my own personal opinion. Cheers Tony From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 28 17:38:52 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:08:52 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wireless and liveCD In-Reply-To: <1167311718.2980.50.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1167296750.2980.24.camel@hush.localdomain> <369bce3b0612280155w479dadc6kddfa0ccd8e3d6c09@mail.gmail.com> <1167310241.2980.37.camel@hush.localdomain> <4593BE72.3000902@fedoraproject.org> <1167311718.2980.50.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <4594012C.9000102@fedoraproject.org> Tony Grant wrote: > Le jeudi 28 d?cembre 2006 ? 18:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > >> The official Live CD is meant only to support whatever Fedora supports >> by default otherwise. There is no live cd specific magic. You are very >> well free to build a Live CD which has a different set of packages and >> branding if you want to put in 16K kernels and ndiswrapper in them. Why >> is that impossible to do? > > This is one place where I think Fedora is wrong. It isn't impossible to > build a CD that supports ndiswrapper the kernel thing is however working > against the end user. > > Think of the new user who wants to try FC for the first time and who may > have any sort of WiFi card. FC liveCD can not have all the Windows > drivers for every WiFi card on the market that is common sense. But > delivering a kernel that prevents ndiswrapper from working with adaptors > made by Linksys - one of the major networking players - is a non > sense... This is just my own personal opinion. I have already explained this elsewhere. So let me point out that again http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2006-July/msg00022.html. Rahul From jdever at triad.rr.com Fri Dec 29 02:43:42 2006 From: jdever at triad.rr.com (Jim Dever) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:43:42 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Intenet access with LiveCD? In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> References: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <459480DE.8070604@triad.rr.com> Thomas Chung wrote: > > I'm not sure if this will help but please refer to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung/LiveCD Just for the record this has been resolved. After much hair pulling and searching the internet it turns out to be a driver conflict. Intenet access was obtained by: ifdown eth0 modprobe -r dmfe modprobe -r tulip modprobe dmfe ifup eth0 Evidently the tulip and dmfe modules togehter have a conflict with my network card. I'm hoping this can be solved after an install by blacklisting the tulip module. Thanks! -- Jim OpenPGP KeyID: 0x006921e Keyserver: ldap://keyserver.pgp.com From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 29 04:45:14 2006 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:45:14 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Intenet access with LiveCD? In-Reply-To: <459480DE.8070604@triad.rr.com> References: <4593196C.80504@triad.rr.com> <369bce3b0612271712w10146bf4h94900e058396e575@mail.gmail.com> <459480DE.8070604@triad.rr.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0612282045t2038a97pa336e3318c5e8536@mail.gmail.com> On 12/28/06, Jim Dever wrote: > Just for the record this has been resolved. After much hair pulling and > searching the internet it turns out to be a driver conflict. > > Intenet access was obtained by: > > ifdown eth0 > modprobe -r dmfe > modprobe -r tulip > modprobe dmfe > ifup eth0 > > Evidently the tulip and dmfe modules togehter have a conflict with my > network card. I'm hoping this can be solved after an install by > blacklisting the tulip module. > > Thanks! Thank you for letting me know. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From johan.cwiklinski at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 29 12:08:19 2006 From: johan.cwiklinski at fedoraproject.org (Johan Cwiklinski) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:08:19 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Boot error In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0612272300t4a40542fg1bc887e956b1ae40@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0612272300t4a40542fg1bc887e956b1ae40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45950533.8040604@fedoraproject.org> Thomas Chung a ?crit : > On 12/27/06, Vnpenguin wrote: >> Hi all, >> Using David's package, I'm trying to create myself a livecd with >> /etc/livecd/10-fedora-livecd-base.conf like config. I obtain iso file, >> ok, but when trying to boot it with qemu, I see: >> >> ... >> root (cd) >> Filesystem type is iso9660, using whole disk >> kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro quiet root=CDLABEL=LiveCD-20061227 >> rootfstype=iso9660 livecd >> [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e00, size=0x1b997f] >> initrd /boot/livecd-initramfs.img >> [Linux-initrd @ 0xc522000, 0x2cd149 bytes] >> >> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, boot the kernel. >> PCI: PIIX3: Enabling Passive Release on 0000:00:01.0 >> mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs' >> Bug in initramfs /init detected. Fropping to a shell. Good luck! >> >> bash: no job control in this shell >> bash-3.1# >> >> I use FC6's latest packages. Don't known how to fix this. >> Any help will be appreciated. > > It took me a while to figure that one myself. Here is a hit. :) > > # rpm -qlp kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686.rpm | grep squashfs > /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs > /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs/squashfs.ko > > You might want to use either 2798 or 2849 but not 2868 for your > installation package list. > Regards, Hello, I have the same error, but I can't figure out how to use 2798 or 2489 :-/ Anyways, this is a very interesting tool, many thanks to all contributors ! Regards, Johan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Fri Dec 29 13:17:32 2006 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:17:32 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Boot error In-Reply-To: <45950533.8040604@fedoraproject.org> References: <369bce3b0612272300t4a40542fg1bc887e956b1ae40@mail.gmail.com> <45950533.8040604@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 12/29/06, Johan Cwiklinski wrote: > > It took me a while to figure that one myself. Here is a hit. :) > > > > # rpm -qlp kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686.rpm | grep squashfs > > /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs > > /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/fs/squashfs/squashfs.ko > > > > You might want to use either 2798 or 2849 but not 2868 for your > > installation package list. > > Regards, > Hello, > > I have the same error, but I can't figure out how to use 2798 or 2489 :-/ > I setup a local repo on my harddisk. So I can use any version of kernel :-) Cheers, -- http://vnoss.org