From geustace at godzone.net.nz Tue Jan 3 03:30:25 2006 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:30:25 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Using kadischi with FC3 Message-ID: <1136259025.4828.114.camel@agree-6> I have had to abandon using FC4 for my project as there seem to be stability issues with one of the 3rd part components that I need to use. I thought Id have a go at using kadischi to build an FC3 LiveCD and was surprised to find that my first attempt was reasonably successful. Unfortunately subsequent attempts are failing miserable and I can not work out what I have done that has broken things. When mkzftree tries to compress the tree it fails with a non zero return code e.g. mkzftree: /usr/local/vmware/flcd/livecd-build_no179/system/proc/vmnet/hub0.1: Success *** Fatal error: mkzftree returned non zero (18944) exit code. Aborting execution. By modifying the kadischi source I have stopped it deleting things and find that in the build area, system/proc is somehow 'linked' to the real /proc on my workstation, I can not find how/where this is done or whether it is supposed to be. All my efforts to diagnose what is happening have made matters worse. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From geustace at godzone.net.nz Tue Jan 3 05:28:24 2006 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:28:24 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Using kadischi with FC3 In-Reply-To: <1136259025.4828.114.camel@agree-6> References: <1136259025.4828.114.camel@agree-6> Message-ID: <1136266104.4154.1.camel@agree-6> > All my efforts to diagnose what is happening have made matters worse. Weird, I had removed the exim rpm in my postinstall script. Not sure why that mucked things up but the build is now working and I have turned off the exim service instead. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From tony at tgds.net Tue Jan 3 06:42:52 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 07:42:52 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Using kadischi with FC3 In-Reply-To: <1136259025.4828.114.camel@agree-6> References: <1136259025.4828.114.camel@agree-6> Message-ID: <1136270572.2833.134.camel@hush.localdomain> Le mardi 03 janvier 2006 ? 16:30 +1300, Glen Eustace a ?crit : > By modifying the kadischi source I have stopped it deleting things and > find that in the build area, system/proc is somehow 'linked' to the > real /proc on my workstation, I can not find how/where this is done or > whether it is supposed to be. Hmmm... This could explain why DNS servers are being wiped on the machine during build. Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx en ligne www.tgds.net/epiaix1.html - A fedora Core 4 based live CD for VIA Epia-M From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 3 15:59:42 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:59:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] custom kernel In-Reply-To: <1135698340.2860.48.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1133335906.16684.22.camel@hush.localdomain> <1135698340.2860.48.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: Good question. I ran into this problem myself too. I think there's a bug filed against it in bugzilla. But again, we lost the lead developer on this project, and until someone wants to dig in and take ownership of the code, we are where we are. I will continue to lobby to get someone looking at this in a full-time paid capacity. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, tony wrote: > Le mercredi 30 novembre 2005 ? 09:51 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg a ?crit : > > > Sorry for the quietness on this list lately. > > Still way too quiet... > > I need to chat with someone about the mkinitrd script. It is including > the Release: number from kernel.spec after my custom kernel name and > this aborts the build at the end. > > It works just fine with stock FC kernels this issue only arises with a > custom kernel. Could someone please tell me what variable I need to > modify in the script? > > TIA > > Tony > -- > Tony Grant > www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx en ligne > www.tgds.net/epiaix1.html - A fedora Core 4 based live CD for VIA Epia-M > From tony at tgds.net Wed Jan 4 11:52:04 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:52:04 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] custom kernel In-Reply-To: References: <1133335906.16684.22.camel@hush.localdomain> <1135698340.2860.48.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <1136375525.2833.196.camel@hush.localdomain> Le mardi 03 janvier 2006 ? 10:59 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg a ?crit : > Good question. I ran into this problem myself too. I think there's a bug > filed against it in bugzilla. > > But again, we lost the lead developer on this project, and until someone > wants to dig in and take ownership of the code, we are where we are. I > will continue to lobby to get someone looking at this in a full-time paid > capacity. I asked DaveJ about kernel numbering on the fedora dev list but no reply... Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx en ligne www.tgds.net/epiaix1.html - A fedora Core 4 based live CD for VIA Epia-M From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 4 11:58:39 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:28:39 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] custom kernel In-Reply-To: <1136375525.2833.196.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1133335906.16684.22.camel@hush.localdomain> <1135698340.2860.48.camel@hush.localdomain> <1136375525.2833.196.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43BBB86F.1000206@redhat.com> tony wrote: >Le mardi 03 janvier 2006 ? 10:59 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg a ?crit : > > >>Good question. I ran into this problem myself too. I think there's a bug >>filed against it in bugzilla. >> >>But again, we lost the lead developer on this project, and until someone >>wants to dig in and take ownership of the code, we are where we are. I >>will continue to lobby to get someone looking at this in a full-time paid >>capacity. >> >> > >I asked DaveJ about kernel numbering on the fedora dev list but no >reply... > >Tony > > I dont see your post. Might want to post again if its related to development of Fedora and not just a end user query From tony at tgds.net Wed Jan 4 12:27:20 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:27:20 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] custom kernel In-Reply-To: <43BBB86F.1000206@redhat.com> References: <1133335906.16684.22.camel@hush.localdomain> <1135698340.2860.48.camel@hush.localdomain> <1136375525.2833.196.camel@hush.localdomain> <43BBB86F.1000206@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136377640.2833.199.camel@hush.localdomain> Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 ? 17:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > I dont see your post. Might want to post again if its related to > development of Fedora and not just a end user query Sujet: [offtopic but still]Re: 2.6.15 Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:36:17 +0100 Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx en ligne www.tgds.net/epiaix1.html - A fedora Core 4 based live CD for VIA Epia-M From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 4 12:32:02 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:02:02 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] custom kernel In-Reply-To: <1136377640.2833.199.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1133335906.16684.22.camel@hush.localdomain> <1135698340.2860.48.camel@hush.localdomain> <1136375525.2833.196.camel@hush.localdomain> <43BBB86F.1000206@redhat.com> <1136377640.2833.199.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43BBC042.3080003@redhat.com> tony wrote: >Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 ? 17:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > > > >>I dont see your post. Might want to post again if its related to >>development of Fedora and not just a end user query >> >> > > Sujet: >[offtopic but still]Re: 2.6.15 > Date: >Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:36:17 +0100 > >Tony > > I just dont see it . https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-January/thread.html From geustace at godzone.net.nz Thu Jan 5 18:27:44 2006 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:27:44 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Another FC3 oddity Message-ID: <1136485664.4154.21.camel@agree-6> Somewhere between the 'find-live-cd' and 'pivot-root' in the livecd-linuxrc, I get a couple of messages from modprobe saying that the parport.ko and parport_pc.ko files can not be found. This didn't occur with the FC4 CD. I am a little confused as the files do appear to exist. Any clues as to why the appear ? This is a cosmetic issue as the CD is now working fine. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From geustace at godzone.net.nz Fri Jan 6 04:36:45 2006 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:36:45 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Another FC3 oddity Message-ID: <1136522205.4154.35.camel@agree-6> Well I am getting somewhere. The parport modules are not in the initrd.img :-( In 'livecd-mkinitrd.sh', these modules were supposed to be added as a result of running strip. However, strip was failing to load as the library libbfd-2.15.92.0.2.so couldn't be found. For the moment, until I can work our where this library needs to be, Im just doing a copy instead. This has got rid of the message during the boot. There seem to be numerous subtle differences between FC3 and 4 that I am having to work through/around but I am pleased to say that the kadischi process is serving me well. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From mkearey at redhat.com Sat Jan 7 07:12:19 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:12:19 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? Message-ID: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Hi all, Am struggling to work out what is wrong with current kadischi (Most recent from CVS). I run the Live CD create command but it always bombs out at the end in the livecd-mkinitrd.sh - "/tmp/livecd-build_no11/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory." A bugzilla exists https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? id=169812 that matches what I am seeing. A friendly poster in that bug seems to think it is anaconda's fault, that it indicates the kernel is installed when it really is not. I have tried altering anaconda using the changes indicated in the Bugzilla, however I see no difference.. I am using latest Fedora Core 4 packages ( yum update ), and anaconda-10.2.1.5-2, all within a VMware machine if that is relevent. What I really want to know is - Who has kadischi actually working ? If so what version of anaconda ? What CVS version? What release of FC? Once I know that I might track down the cause of the problem :) Cheers, Michael P.S Here are tail of results from kadischi build: making initrd image *** Fatal error: /usr/local/share/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. In anaconda logging I also see right after package dep checking : * using freeglut-0:2.2.0-16.i386 to satisfy libglut.so.3 * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.001: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no30/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.001' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.002: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no30/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.002' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.003: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no30/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.003' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/var/lib/rpm' * moving (1) to step postinstallconfig And * Running kickstart %post script(s) * WARNING - Error code 256 encountered running a kickstart %pre/%post script * All kickstart %post script(s) have been run From tony at tgds.net Sat Jan 7 08:10:33 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 09:10:33 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136621433.2833.284.camel@hush.localdomain> Le samedi 07 janvier 2006 ? 17:12 +1000, Michael Kearey a ?crit : > Am struggling to work out what is wrong with current kadischi (Most > recent from CVS). This was also broken on preceding version with custom kernels. > A bugzilla exists https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? > id=169812 I have added my comment to that bug. This is a show stopper... Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From geustace at godzone.net.nz Sat Jan 7 19:56:38 2006 From: geustace at godzone.net.nz (Glen Eustace) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:56:38 +1300 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1136663798.4154.46.camel@agree-6> On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 17:12 +1000, Michael Kearey wrote: > What I really want to know is - Who has kadischi actually working ? If > so what version of anaconda ? What CVS version? What release of FC? Once > I know that I might track down the cause of the problem :) I am using it and it is ( mostly ) working fine for me. I am still using the original. I have anaconda-10.2.1.5-2. I am building on FC4 but have now successfully built an FC4 (kernel-2.6.12-1398) and an FC3 (kernel-2.6.9-1.667) LiveCD. I have a module that is kernel dependant so have not bothered updating to newer kernel versions as it is a hassle rebuilding the other module. Though I am keeping all other RPMS up to date. My goal is an appliance so I only needed a CD production tool that works for me rather than something general. I have had to make numerous tweaks to my customisations stuff which is why I haven't updated to a more recent CVS version. My biggest problem is understanding EXACTLY what the whole process is doing so that I can work/fix/optimise it. So far it has all been trial and error. However, it is working and I am indebted to those who built the tool as it has made my project a reality not just a nice idea. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301 Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 27 5 424 015, Web: www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations" From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sun Jan 8 18:53:50 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:53:50 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Custom version of anaconda? Message-ID: <43C15FBE.8060902@adslpipe.co.uk> Hello, I wanted to create a Fedora Live CD so tried kadischi, I'm running FC5/rawhide, I installed all the pre-requisites as shown on http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/KadischiDoc When I try to build a CD from a local FC5 http repo it checks the repo and then I get an error from anaconda error bad argument --livecd: unknown option Does kadischi require a custom version of anaconda, or have some changes not been carried through into the FC5 version of anaconda? I have anaconda 10.90.25 on x86_64 There is no mention of "--livecd" within the anaconda script with all the other options p.s. Is there any reason (other than time!) why kadischi isn't or can't be installed as an RPM in Extras? From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sun Jan 8 19:12:40 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:12:40 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Custom version of anaconda? In-Reply-To: <43C15FBE.8060902@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43C15FBE.8060902@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43C16428.5010303@adslpipe.co.uk> Andy Burns wrote: > Hello, > > I wanted to create a Fedora Live CD so tried kadischi, I'm running > FC5/rawhide, I installed all the pre-requisites as shown on > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/KadischiDoc > > When I try to build a CD from a local FC5 http repo it checks the repo > and then I get an error from anaconda > > error bad argument --livecd: unknown option > > Does kadischi require a custom version of anaconda oops, I overlooked the part of the installation notes that says "Yet another thing you would have to do in order to run the application is to patch anaconda" trying again ... From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sun Jan 8 19:50:19 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:50:19 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Custom version of anaconda? In-Reply-To: <43C16428.5010303@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43C15FBE.8060902@adslpipe.co.uk> <43C16428.5010303@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43C16CFB.3030506@adslpipe.co.uk> Andy Burns wrote: > "Yet another thing you would have to do in order > to run the application is to patch anaconda" OK, one hunk of the patch wouldn't directly apply to FC5's anaconda, but it was trivial to apply it by hand, kadischi then runs and starts anaconda, but gets to a "Partitioning Type" screen where it won't accept any of the options, presumably due to changes in FC5's anaconda more steps need to be skipped? I tried copying some of the "likely" looking dispatch.skipStep() calls from the "if flags.rootpath" statement, but my stumbles weren't good enough, any suggestions (either on what to try, or on how to trace what anaconda is doing) From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Mon Jan 9 03:44:28 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:44:28 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> Michael Kearey wrote: >Hi all, > >Am struggling to work out what is wrong with current kadischi (Most >recent from CVS). > >I run the Live CD create command but it always bombs out at the end in >the livecd-mkinitrd.sh - > >"/tmp/livecd-build_no11/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory." > > I just got around to getting a build system up over here again, and I *DO NOT* see this problem. What I believe is you may be using packages, especially a kernel package that is updated. If you deviate from the stock FC4 packages, you must use genhdlist, and pkgorder for it to work as planned. Likewise doing this would in my eyes, require the old kernel be removed from the repository directory, unless installing both. >A bugzilla exists https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi? >id=169812 that matches what I am seeing. A friendly poster in that bug >seems to think it is anaconda's fault, that it indicates the kernel is >installed when it really is not. I have tried altering anaconda using >the changes indicated in the Bugzilla, however I see no difference.. > > That is a snippet of code from anaconda-devel-list a few months ago, as I said, I made absolutely no changes, I see no problems. >I am using latest Fedora Core 4 packages ( yum update ), and >anaconda-10.2.1.5-2, all within a VMware machine if that is relevent. > > If you are deviating from the stock FC4 packages, please specify your utilities and packages in Fedora/base/comps.xml and likewise, run genhdlist and pkgorder to reflect the changes also. I have /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime in my $PATH on the build machine here. >What I really want to know is - Who has kadischi actually working ? If >so what version of anaconda ? What CVS version? What release of FC? Once >I know that I might track down the cause of the problem :) > > Kadischi - Sunday January 8th (CVS) Anaconda - 10.2.1.5-2 Fedora Core 4, stock packages. >Cheers, >Michael > > > I have been experimenting around with building rpms, need one? kadischi.rpm anyone? J. Hartline jasperhartline at adelphia.net From mkearey at redhat.com Mon Jan 9 05:03:30 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:03:30 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1136783010.3601.9.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 21:44 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Michael Kearey wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >Am struggling to work out what is wrong with current kadischi (Most > >recent from CVS). > > > >I run the Live CD create command but it always bombs out at the end in > >the livecd-mkinitrd.sh - > > > >"/tmp/livecd-build_no11/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory." > > > > > I just got around to getting a build system up over here again, and I > *DO NOT* see this problem. > What I believe is you may be using packages, especially a kernel package > that is updated. > If you deviate from the stock FC4 packages, you must use genhdlist, and > pkgorder for it to work as planned. > Likewise doing this would in my eyes, require the old kernel be removed > from the repository directory, unless installing both. What I have is a stock Fedora Core system fully updated with the latest core packages with yum (ie the updates section for fc4). Note this is the _build host_. I have as install tree for the LiveCD build the original stock FC4 packages from the original CD spin... I see that the build system is a little fragile right now. I shall install a clean FC4 system, with no updates and see how that goes. I shall also continue to work out what goes wrong on the current build host I have been using. We need a build system that is less fragile I think :) CHeers. Michael From tony at tgds.net Mon Jan 9 06:34:39 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 07:34:39 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1136788480.3747.40.camel@hush.localdomain> Le dimanche 08 janvier 2006 ? 21:44 -0600, J. Hartline a ?crit : > What I believe is you may be using packages, especially a kernel package > that is updated. Yes > If you deviate from the stock FC4 packages, you must use genhdlist, and > pkgorder for it to work as planned. of course > Likewise doing this would in my eyes, require the old kernel be removed > from the repository directory, unless installing both. Yes doing all of the above. Now what? Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 10 08:06:16 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:06:16 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO Message-ID: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> Is anyone interested in maintaining kadischi rpm packages? I think it would be a good idea for this to be thought about now, before or after kadischi has a new project maintainer. I have built an rpm of kadischi, but as nmap64 and mether stated the kadischi project was lucky to have it's mailing list put on fedoraproject.org. Regardelss of what they believe I have used kadischi successfully polenty of times. I will continue to provide an installable package for ease-of-use to users that may request it. I will possibly look into packaging kadischi and submitting it to Fedora Extras. I know I like kadischi, I think it is pretty neat. I don't suppose anyone can get ahold of Darko or Greg and possibly ask for more details on the TODO list that is at http://fedoraproject.org/Kadischi uh? I'm particularly interested in "modify firstboot to do some configuration". The only thing I could think of is: 1) What runlevel should I start in? 2) What is the address of your internet gateway, or DHCP server? 3) What services should start during bootstrap? Any one else have any ideas? From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Tue Jan 10 08:13:35 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:13:35 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO In-Reply-To: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> References: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43C36CAF.20809@adslpipe.co.uk> J. Hartline wrote: > Is anyone interested in maintaining kadischi rpm packages? I need to get it up and running on FC5 to see if I like it first ;-) Surely it's anaconda patches would need to be accepted into anaconda before it was very useful to have a kadischi RPM? From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 12:16:27 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:46:27 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO In-Reply-To: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> References: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43C3A59B.7040105@redhat.com> J. Hartline wrote: > Is anyone interested in maintaining kadischi rpm packages? I think it > would be a good idea for this to be thought about now, before > or after kadischi has a new project maintainer. > > I have built an rpm of kadischi, but as nmap64 and mether stated the > kadischi project was lucky to have it's mailing list put on > fedoraproject.org. I hate it when someone misquotes me so badly. > Regardelss of what they believe I have used kadischi successfully > polenty of times. I will continue to provide an installable package for > ease-of-use to users that may request it. I will possibly look into > packaging kadischi and submitting it to Fedora Extras. > I know I like kadischi, I think it is pretty neat. I don't suppose > anyone can get ahold of Darko or Greg and possibly ask > for more details on the TODO list that is at > http://fedoraproject.org/Kadischi uh? > > I'm particularly interested in "modify firstboot to do some > configuration". > The only thing I could think of is: > 1) What runlevel should I start in? > 2) What is the address of your internet gateway, or DHCP server? > 3) What services should start during bootstrap? > > Any one else have any ideas? I guess the best way to move forward is to look at the code and try and figure out the details and take lead of the project. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 13:00:48 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:00:48 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO In-Reply-To: <43C3A59B.7040105@redhat.com> References: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> <43C3A59B.7040105@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601100500n25cdabdau921264c03b4448db@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Im not a programmer, but a kadischi tester. But since probably there will be a FUDCon at linuxtag in wiesbaden soon, I might be available to spread the word through a conference. I mean explain the Fedora Live CD project. For this, I might be looking for YOUR help. If this turns out to be a success, I might continue to promote it in the Open Source day Event in Strasbourg too. Eventually, I might be also available to package kadischi. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sopwith at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 20:46:06 2006 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:46:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! Message-ID: Hey all! I get the impression that everyone is waiting for a kadischi maintainer to show up out of thin air. Unless I find a magic lamp really soon, this won't happen. :) So, if anyone would like commit access to kadischi CVS, and has a patch that they're already trying to get in, please e-mail me and we'll work on getting commit access for more of you. Best, -- Elliot Red Hat Summit Nashville (May 30 - June 2, 2006) http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/ From chitlesh at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 22:14:02 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:14:02 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> > I get the impression that everyone is waiting for a kadischi maintainer to > show up out of thin air. Unless I find a magic lamp really soon, this > won't happen. :) Meanwhile that everyone is waiting for the newt maintainer, Im willing to help with the documentation of the Live CD project. Because to be honest, the actual docs are bearly enough. Is it really a liveCD project? what is the real name of this project? > So, if anyone would like commit access to kadischi CVS, and has a patch > that they're already trying to get in, please e-mail me and we'll work on > getting commit access for more of you. May I have the access though knowing the fact that my hostel has blocked cvs access ? But I do have cvs at my gf's place. Ive started with the kadischifaq in the wiki. When my exams will be over, I might be committed for the project. Is it also possible for to receive emails after any modification made on livecd related page such as this one: --------------- Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated. Status of sending notification mails: [en] PatrickBarnes: Mail sent OK Clear message --------------- My initial/first goal that I want to achieve is to create a OOo Impress presentation about the live cd project so that even the Fedora Ambassadors might use during their conferences. Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sopwith at redhat.com Tue Jan 10 22:56:21 2006 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:56:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Meanwhile that everyone is waiting for the newt maintainer, Im willing > to help with the documentation of the Live CD project. Because to be > honest, the actual docs are bearly enough. Cool :-) > Is it really a liveCD project? what is the real name of this project? kadischi is the name of the project to write the livecd generator. > Is it also possible for to receive emails after any modification made > on livecd related page > such as this one: > --------------- > Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated. > Status of sending notification mails: > [en] PatrickBarnes: Mail sent OK > Clear message > --------------- I believe you can do this as long as you have a wiki account. Click around on the icons a bit ;) -- Elliot Red Hat Summit Nashville (May 30 - June 2, 2006) http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/ From mkearey at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 02:19:43 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:19:43 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> In case you were staying up late worried about this one, I have finally managed to get a build system that _works_ :) Here is the very specific recipe I used (Exactly and strictly following the kadisci Wiki instructions) : - Install FC4 original release from CD's ( NOT DVD && NOT yum updated ) - Installed the additional packages using yum ie yum install anaconda busybox-anaconda syslinux mkisofs zisofs-tools e2fsprogs kudzu-devel Couple of things I did wrong it seems in my previous attempts: - I used the DVD to install the base build system - I installed the additional packages from the original CD's and not the latest ones from yum So current kadischi needs a clean original FC4 with no updates installed. It also requires the the additional packages anaconda busybox-anaconda syslinux mkisofs zisofs-tools e2fsprogs kudzu-devel to be the latest available for FC4 ... It seems to require a mix of original FC system plus specific updates via yum to get a working build system. My next step is to work out what specifically breaks the build system... Cheers, -- Michael Kearey Website: http://apac.redhat.com Red Hat Asia-Pacific Disclaimer: http://apac.redhat.com/disclaimer Ph: +61 7 3514 8138 Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 00:21:17 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:21:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> > > Is it really a liveCD project? what is the real name of this project? > kadischi is the name of the project to write the livecd generator. #001 Among the various Fedora projects ( extras, Marketing ..) from people.redhat.com/sundaram/Fedora.sxi there isn't yet a "Kadischi Project". Our first step should first identify "officially" the "Kadischi Project" as one of Fedora Projects. #002 Secondly, in the wiki we have : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi ( & co ) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs Since these come from the "Kadischi Project", I propose that all the above pages be the children of a "KadischiProject" (homepage). Just to get things centralized. If somehow these mentioned wikipages are related to other projects, please inform me. If there's no objection about it, Ill modify it as stated above. #003 In the wiki, the "KadischiProject" does not have a category. Can we have one for it? how? #004 Though we don't have a maintainer, are we going to have a weekly meeting tomorrow as stated in the wiki at 13 GMT ? > I believe you can do this as long as you have a wiki account. Click around > on the icons a bit ;) I guess its the "subscribe" :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 11 07:47:40 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:47:40 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO In-Reply-To: <43C36CAF.20809@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> <43C36CAF.20809@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43C4B81C.3020502@adelphia.net> Yes. Among other things I believe getting Anaconda patches to patch clean on Fedora Core 5 stock is very important. Last I remember is Anaconda was _going_ to recieve these changes, however with nothing being said on this list more about it I don't know anyting myself. So, yes and no. Regardless of the patches, a kadischi rpm can be built, the patches included with kadischi patch cleanly with Fedora Core 4's Anaconda, even the latest update. Maybe this will change by Fedora Core 5, maybe it won't. So modifications of existing patches, getting the changes in new Anaconda releases, whatever it takes to get kadischi to run properly using a Fedora Core 5 stock repository, and within Fedora Core 5. Andy Burns wrote: > I need to get it up and running on FC5 to see if I like it first ;-) > > Surely it's anaconda patches would need to be accepted into anaconda > before it was very useful to have a kadischi RPM? > > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 11 07:49:27 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:49:27 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi rpm & kadischi's TODO In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601100500n25cdabdau921264c03b4448db@mail.gmail.com> References: <43C36AF8.3020900@adelphia.net> <43C3A59B.7040105@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601100500n25cdabdau921264c03b4448db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C4B887.3070803@adelphia.net> I think this is a great idea. There is nothing better than limelight for something that is otherwise pale. Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Hello there, >Im not a programmer, but a kadischi tester. >But since probably there will be a FUDCon at linuxtag in wiesbaden >soon, I might be available to spread the word through a conference. I >mean explain the Fedora Live CD project. For this, I might be looking >for YOUR help. If this turns out to be a success, I might continue to >promote it in the Open Source day Event in Strasbourg too. > > > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 11 07:56:25 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:56:25 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C4BA29.3050402@adelphia.net> Michael Kearey wrote: >In case you were staying up late worried about this one, I have finally >managed to get a build system that _works_ :) > > Excellent. >So current kadischi needs a clean original FC4 with no updates >installed. It also requires the the additional packages anaconda >busybox-anaconda syslinux mkisofs zisofs-tools e2fsprogs kudzu-devel to >be the latest available for FC4 ... > > > From the sounds of it, if the CDs work Ok but the DVD doesn't, that would indicate something different in Fedora/base from the CDs than the DVD. From nman64 at n-man.com Wed Jan 11 08:04:31 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:04:31 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C4BC0F.6050909@n-man.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > Is it really a liveCD project? what is the real name of this project? > > kadischi is the name of the project to write the livecd generator. > > #001 > Among the various Fedora projects ( extras, Marketing ..) from > people.redhat.com/sundaram/Fedora.sxi there isn't yet a "Kadischi > Project". > > Our first step should first identify "officially" the "Kadischi > Project" as one of Fedora Projects. > > #002 > Secondly, in the wiki we have : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi ( & co ) > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD > These two can be combined. Kadischi should be the primary page, and LiveCD can be a redirect to it. Get the content all on Kadischi and let me know if you need help setting up the redirect. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs > This really isn't related to Kadischi, and should be left as it is. > Since these come from the "Kadischi Project", I propose that all the > above pages be the children of a "KadischiProject" (homepage). Just to > get things centralized. If somehow these mentioned wikipages are > related to other projects, please inform me. > > If there's no objection about it, Ill modify it as stated above. > > #003 > In the wiki, the "KadischiProject" does not have a category. Can we > have one for it? how? > > You do not need "KadischiProject" as a category, but rather "CategoryKadischi". I'll try to have that category created for you by the time you read this message. :-) > #004 > Though we don't have a maintainer, are we going to have a weekly > meeting tomorrow as stated in the wiki at 13 GMT ? > > > I believe you can do this as long as you have a wiki account. Click around > > on the icons a bit ;) > I guess its the "subscribe" :) > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > You know where to find me if you have questions. ;-) -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Unless I find a magic lamp really soon, this >won't happen. :) > >So, if anyone would like commit access to kadischi CVS, and has a patch >that they're already trying to get in, please e-mail me and we'll work on >getting commit access for more of you. > >Best, >-- Elliot >Red Hat Summit Nashville (May 30 - June 2, 2006) >http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/ > > From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 12:35:28 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:35:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C4BC0F.6050909@n-man.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C4BC0F.6050909@n-man.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601110435s58e12f8cn98ac8cc322f2aa4b@mail.gmail.com> > These two can be combined. Kadischi should be the primary page, and > LiveCD can be a redirect to it. Get the content all on Kadischi and let > me know if you need help setting up the redirect. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs Oops ive moved it to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/DerivedDistributions Should i revert back? > You do not need "KadischiProject" as a category, but rather > "CategoryKadischi". I'll try to have that category created for you by > the time you read this message. :-) thanks Patrick > I currently have two patches that will patch clean against anaconda-10.91.0 > anaconda.patch and flags.py.patch. What I suggest is patches be > organized and preserved for now. > e.g. Keep the Fedora Core 4 patch files, along with the newer > anaconda-10.91.0 patch files. J.Hartline can you create a page under Kadischi/Development and post your work along with a small describtion/howto? I have modified the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/ so that it looks good and friendly. Ive even created http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Contributors where Contributors can add themselves. The idea behind this is to get : 1. an overview who is working on what 2. helpful to the next maintainer 3. coordinate ourselves meanwhile there's no maintainers. Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 12:50:30 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:20:30 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601110435s58e12f8cn98ac8cc322f2aa4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C4BC0F.6050909@n-man.com> <13dbfe4f0601110435s58e12f8cn98ac8cc322f2aa4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C4FF16.8030305@redhat.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >>These two can be combined. Kadischi should be the primary page, and >>LiveCD can be a redirect to it. Get the content all on Kadischi and let >>me know if you need help setting up the redirect. >> >> >>>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs >>> >>> > >Oops ive moved it to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/DerivedDistributions >Should i revert back? > Yes. You should revert back. There are many derived distributions which don't use Kadischi. If there are many that use this tool, then having a separate entry in the distribution notes would be better than maintaining parallel lists. While renaming pages, kindly coordinate with others who work on the wiki so that your changes are validated and referenced properly. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing for the general guidelines. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 12:56:11 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:56:11 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C4FF16.8030305@redhat.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C4BC0F.6050909@n-man.com> <13dbfe4f0601110435s58e12f8cn98ac8cc322f2aa4b@mail.gmail.com> <43C4FF16.8030305@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601110456y9b1c164k59718a5de0bba722@mail.gmail.com> > Yes. You should revert back. There are many derived distributions which > don't use Kadischi. If there are many that use this tool, then having a > separate entry in the distribution notes would be better than > maintaining parallel lists. done. > While renaming pages, kindly coordinate with > others who work on the wiki so that your changes are validated and > referenced properly. > > See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing for the general guidelines. > I thought i did it from the previous mails > If there's no objection about it, Ill modify it as stated above. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From cnegus at mwt.net Wed Jan 11 14:45:24 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:45:24 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C4BA29.3050402@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C4BA29.3050402@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1136990724.2282.56.camel@einstein> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 01:56 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Michael Kearey wrote: > From the sounds of it, if the CDs work Ok but the DVD doesn't, that > would indicate something different in Fedora/base from the CDs > than the DVD. I used the DVD, but I copied everything to hard disk first and it worked okay. -- Chris Negus From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 17:14:57 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:14:57 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] the poor Kadischi doesn't have a Logo Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601110914m5b496cb7tdb22042d5a65d25f@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I just noticed that Kadischi i.e. the Kadischi Project does not have a Logo. Or is there a logo under development? I think it should be more or less like the new Fedora Logo. Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 11 17:17:35 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:17:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media Message-ID: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> I'm willing to take the time out here to build anything the Fedora Project needs with kadischi, within my bounds of course. If you need LiveCD and LiveDVD images, provide a package list or some sort of information in what should be on it at least. A seemingly generic LiveCD to me I would think would be a Workstation type install, but I do believe that stretches the bounds of 650/700MB medias. From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 17:24:29 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:24:29 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601110924v147dbde5q44b7a102dafc4af2@mail.gmail.com> I think the Ambassadors are mostly concerned here. That is why im forwarding this mail to the Ambassadors list. If any ambassador has a Live CD created by Kadischi, please do spread the word about "Kadischi". Ive noticed that in the slide there isn't Kadischi. On 1/11/06, J. Hartline wrote: > I'm willing to take the time out here to build anything the Fedora > Project needs with kadischi, within > my bounds of course. If you need LiveCD and LiveDVD images, provide a > package list or some sort of information > in what should be on it at least. A seemingly generic LiveCD to me I > would think would be a Workstation type install, but I do believe that > stretches the bounds of 650/700MB medias. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mkearey at redhat.com Wed Jan 11 21:22:18 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:22:18 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1136990724.2282.56.camel@einstein> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C4BA29.3050402@adelphia.net> <1136990724.2282.56.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <1137014538.4426.63.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 08:45 -0600, Chris Negus wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 01:56 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > > Michael Kearey wrote: > > From the sounds of it, if the CDs work Ok but the DVD doesn't, that > > would indicate something different in Fedora/base from the CDs > > than the DVD. > > I used the DVD, but I copied everything to hard disk first and it worked > okay. Interesting. Maybe I have disk IO problems .. Cheers, -- Michael Kearey Website: http://apac.redhat.com Red Hat Asia-Pacific Disclaimer: http://apac.redhat.com/disclaimer Ph: +61 7 3514 8138 Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 00:30:52 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:30:52 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601111630g576e6fet2d4797e8adcfd0b3@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Ive perfomed this as su - [root at goorah fedora]# kadischi /media/cdrecorder/ /tmp/fedorecore4.iso It failed twice at 100% after reading the packages from the DVD. the results are attached to this mail Is this a bug or lack of dependencies? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- [root at goorah fedora]# kadischi /media/cdrecorder/ /tmp/fedorecore4.iso Starting kadischi... Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) Path /media/cdrecorder exists. OK Path /media/cdrecorder/Fedora exists. OK Path /media/cdrecorder/Fedora/base exists. OK Path /media/cdrecorder/Fedora/RPMS exists. OK Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options *** running anaconda *** * Display mode = g * Method = nfs://media/cdrecorder Probing for video card: NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic) Probing for monitor type: Unknown monitor Probing for mouse type: Skipped mouse probe. Starting graphical installation... * unable to load pixmaps/first.png * no floppy devices found but we'll try fd0 anyway * moving (1) to step welcome * moving (1) to step language * moving (1) to step keyboard Loading /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/azerty/fr-pc.map.gz * running ['/usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap', '-layout', 'fr', '-model', 'pc105', '-option', ''] * moving (1) to step findrootparts * moving (1) to step installtype * Detected 512M of memory * Swap attempt of 512M to 1024M * moving (1) to step networkdevicecheck * moving (1) to step network * moving (1) to step firewall * moving (1) to step timezone * moving (1) to step accounts * moving (1) to step readcomps * Using file:///media/cdrecorder/Fedora/base/comps.xml * base references package cryptsetup which doesn't exist * base references package openCryptoki which doesn't exist * base references package prctl which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-libstdc++-devel which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-gcc-c++ which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-gcc-295 which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-gcc-296 which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-gcc which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-libstdc++ which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-libstdc++-295 which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-libstdc++-32 which doesn't exist * legacy-software-development references package compat-gcc-c++-32 which doesn't exist * compat-arch-support references package libtool-libs which doesn't exist * compat-arch-support references package openCryptoki which doesn't exist * compat-arch-support references package libf2c which doesn't exist * legacy-software-support references package compat-pwdb which doesn't exist * java-development references package jakarta-commons-daemon which doesn't exist * java-development references package beecrypt-java which doesn't exist * java-development references package jakarta-commons-daemon-javadoc which doesn't exist * gnome-desktop references package gnome-backgrounds which doesn't exist * core references package yaboot which doesn't exist * core references package iprutils which doesn't exist * core references package elilo which doesn't exist * core references package s390utils which doesn't exist * core references package ppc64-utils which doesn't exist * japanese-support references package jcode.pl which doesn't exist * mail-server references package perl-Cyrus which doesn't exist * miscallvars references package anaconda-product which doesn't exist * miscallvars references package lilo which doesn't exist * kannada-support references package openoffice.org-langpack-kn_IN which doesn't exist * web-server references package struts11-webapps-tomcat5 which doesn't exist * web-server references package httpd-suexec which doesn't exist * base-x references package desktop-backgrounds-extra which doesn't exist * development-tools references package gcc-ppc32 which doesn't exist * development-tools references package pfmon which doesn't exist * development-tools references package gcc-c++-ppc32 which doesn't exist * moving (1) to step selectlangpackages * moving (1) to step package-selection * unable to load package-selection.png * moving (1) to step handleX11pkgs * moving (1) to step handlemiscpkgs * Found a pcic controller of type: yenta_socket * moving (1) to step fixupconditionals * moving (1) to step checkdeps * moving (1) to step confirminstall * moving (1) to step install * moving (1) to step enablefilesystems * moving (1) to step migratefilesystems * moving (1) to step setuptime * moving (1) to step preinstallconfig * moving (1) to step installpackages * setting file_context_path to nil * using hardlink-1:1.0-1.13.i386 to satisfy /usr/sbin/hardlink * Initial install time estimate = 3.89201883982 * switching from iso 1 to 2 for fonts-xorg-base-6.8.2-1.noarch * switching from iso 2 to 4 for kernel-devel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4.i686 * Actual install time = 6.90417855183 * switching from iso 4 to 1 for hardlink-1.0-1.13.i386 * Actual install time = 6.90631233454 /usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py:174: GtkWarning: gtk_progress_set_percentage: assertion `percentage >= 0 && percentage <= 1.0' failed self.totalProgress.set_fraction(fractionComplete) * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.001: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no7/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.001' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.002: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no7/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.002' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm/__db.003: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/livecd-build_no7/system/var/lib/rpm/__db.003' * failed to unlink /var/lib/rpm: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/var/lib/rpm' * moving (1) to step postinstallconfig * Found a pcic controller of type: yenta_socket * self.hostname = localhost.localdomain * rhgb installed, adding to boot loader config * found the comps package * comps.rpm failed to install: list index out of range * moving (1) to step writeconfig * Writing main configuration * Would have run ['/usr/sbin/authconfig', '--kickstart', '--nostart', '--enableshadow', '--enablemd5', '--disablecache', '--disablenis', '--disableldap', '--disableldapauth', '--disableldaptls', '--disablekrb5', '--disablehesiod', '--disablesmbauth'] * would have run ['/usr/sbin/lokkit', '--quiet', '--nostart', '-f', '--enabled'] * would have run ['/usr/sbin/lokkit', '--quiet', '--nostart', '--selinux=disabled'] * moving (1) to step firstboot * moving (1) to step writeksconfig * Writing autokickstart file Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1137, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 244, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 873, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 174, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 242, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/packages.py", line 84, in writeKSConfiguration id.writeKS(fn) File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/instdata.py", line 161, in writeKS (srv, dir) = string.split(nfsinfo, ':') ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1137, in handleRenderCallback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 244, in renderCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 873, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 174, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 242, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/packages.py", line 84, in writeKSConfiguration id.writeKS(fn) File "/usr/src/build/573771-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/instdata.py", line 161, in writeKS (srv, dir) = string.split(nfsinfo, ':') ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack > /usr/src/build/573771-i386/install/usr/lib/anaconda/instdata.py(161)writeKS() -> (srv, dir) = string.split(nfsinfo, ':') From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 12 01:35:06 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:35:06 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601111630g576e6fet2d4797e8adcfd0b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601111630g576e6fet2d4797e8adcfd0b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C5B24A.7030005@adelphia.net> Hi. Could you please try using cdrom:// instead of /media/cdrecorder e.g. kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fedoracore4.iso Please post results. Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Hello there, >Ive perfomed this as su - >[root at goorah fedora]# kadischi /media/cdrecorder/ /tmp/fedorecore4.iso >It failed twice at 100% after reading the packages from the DVD. >the results are attached to this mail > >Is this a bug or lack of dependencies? >-- >http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >[root at goorah fedora]# kadischi /media/cdrecorder/ /tmp/fedorecore4.iso > > > From nman64 at n-man.com Thu Jan 12 03:11:27 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:11:27 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] the poor Kadischi doesn't have a Logo In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601110914m5b496cb7tdb22042d5a65d25f@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601110914m5b496cb7tdb22042d5a65d25f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C5C8DF.2010303@n-man.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello, > I just noticed that Kadischi i.e. the Kadischi Project does not have a > Logo. Or is there a logo under development? I think it should be more > or less like the new Fedora Logo. > > Chitlesh GOORAH > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > Fedora sub-projects generally do not have unique logos. As work progresses on the Fedora logo, new variations will be created for the sub-projects. They will basically be the same logo with the sub-project name added. Also, keep in mind that Kadischi is currently in a 'beta' state. It probably isn't something we want to push too heavily to end users just yet. As things drive forward, needs will see Kadischi put to proper use. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From skunkworx at verizon.net Thu Jan 12 07:15:45 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:15:45 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1136945983.4426.52.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C60221.1060500@verizon.net> Michael Kearey wrote: > > Couple of things I did wrong it seems in my previous attempts: > > - I used the DVD to install the base build system > - I installed the additional packages from the original CD's and not the > latest ones from yum > > > So current kadischi needs a clean original FC4 with no updates > installed. It also requires the the additional packages anaconda > busybox-anaconda syslinux mkisofs zisofs-tools e2fsprogs kudzu-devel to > be the latest available for FC4 ... I have built *many* custom boot dvd's with kadischi using the box stock FC4 DVD iso (mounted loopback, then shared, via a FC4 based http server), with a local yum update repo shared from the same box, using a kickstart script. I've duped the system on two sets of servers (separate subnets/different hardware) and had great luck. There was a time when the yum updates broke the initrd step but I haven't seen it for awhile. There was a poster on the list who couldn't get anything to work, even though the same setup worked for me...I've always thought it was a deeper problem than kadischi (lowlevel hardware/software related). --- SW From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 09:01:57 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:01:57 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack In-Reply-To: <43C5B24A.7030005@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601111630g576e6fet2d4797e8adcfd0b3@mail.gmail.com> <43C5B24A.7030005@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601120101v7f37b19cv55ff25d993831350@mail.gmail.com> On 1/12/06, J. Hartline wrote: > Hi. > Could you please try using cdrom:// instead of /media/cdrecorder > e.g. kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fedoracore4.iso > Please post results. failed !! by the way : [root at goorah cdrecorder]# cd cdrom:// -bash: cd: cdrom://: No such file or directory chitlesh(~)[0]$su - Password: [root at goorah ~]# kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fedoracore4.iso Starting kadischi... Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options *** running anaconda *** * Display mode = g * Method = cdrom:// Probing for video card: NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic) Probing for monitor type: Unknown monitor Probing for mouse type: Skipped mouse probe. Starting graphical installation... * unable to load pixmaps/first.png Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/anaconda", line 1051, in ? methodobj = CdromInstallMethod(method[8:], rootPath, intf) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/image.py", line 385, in __init__ (self.device, tree) = string.split(url, ":", 1) ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 12 21:14:55 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:14:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A good note. My responses inline. On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > #001 > Among the various Fedora projects ( extras, Marketing ..) from > people.redhat.com/sundaram/Fedora.sxi there isn't yet a "Kadischi > Project". > > Our first step should first identify "officially" the "Kadischi > Project" as one of Fedora Projects. I've been hoping to do this, but there needs to be a sufficient critical mass around this project to make it official -- and one developer does not a project make. To be a *real project*, we need a *real lead*, someone who is recruiting, coding, bragging about how cool the project is, leading a weekly meeting... I was hoping Darko would be that guy, but he hasn't had time. And I know I don't. A real project needs a real lead. > #002 > Secondly, in the wiki we have : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi ( & co ) > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LiveCD > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DerivedDistributions/LiveCDs > > Since these come from the "Kadischi Project", I propose that all the > above pages be the children of a "KadischiProject" (homepage). Just to > get things centralized. If somehow these mentioned wikipages are > related to other projects, please inform me. > > If there's no objection about it, Ill modify it as stated above. I think we should be careful of this. Kadischi is a good code name, but people need to know what a project does, if possible. This is all about "a Fedora-based Live CD." Why shouldn't we call it the Fedora Live CD project? > #003 > In the wiki, the "KadischiProject" does not have a category. Can we > have one for it? how? > > #004 > Though we don't have a maintainer, are we going to have a weekly > meeting tomorrow as stated in the wiki at 13 GMT ? Depends on who will show, to be honest. We held the meeting for weeks, and it was always Darko and I. But I welcome this discussion. If a strong lead wants to step up and can: * Run the meeting; * Maintain the wiki; * Do some coding; ...then I can attend the meetings and start to chase resources from my end. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 12 23:50:28 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:50:28 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C6EB44.3020504@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >I've been hoping to do this, but there needs to be a sufficient critical >mass around this project to make it official -- and one developer does not >a project make. To be a *real project*, we need a *real lead*, someone >who is recruiting, coding, bragging about how cool the project is, leading >a weekly meeting... I was hoping Darko would be that guy, but he hasn't >had time. And I know I don't. > > > Well, so far we have Anaconda-10.91.0 patches that patch clean, I have submitted these to Jeremy KLatz. Apparently Darko did not have time. We have Chitlesh modifying the wiki here and ther. We have a good looking .spec file that builds kadischi from CVS. As time progresses I think someone will definitely be interested in this Kadischi and a Fedora Core Official LiveCD. >I think we should be careful of this. Kadischi is a good code name, but >people need to know what a project does, if possible. This is all about >"a Fedora-based Live CD." Why shouldn't we call it the Fedora Live CD >project? > > Just a thought here.. Kadischi is the LiveCD tool. Fedora Core LiveCD is a LiveCD. I believe Kadischi and Fedora LiveCD just go hand in hand. Correct me if I'm wrong, is Kadischi is or is not Darko, or someone's last name? The wiki should be edited to reflect this if so, the wiki says it was just made up or something. J. Hartline From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 01:34:25 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:34:25 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601121734u5d1aefu51444ebfe18910c@mail.gmail.com> > I think we should be careful of this. Kadischi is a good code name, but > people need to know what a project does, if possible. This is all about > "a Fedora-based Live CD." Why shouldn't we call it the Fedora Live CD > project? Hello Greg, lately I was working hard to give Kadischi another look (on the wiki). Ok i agree that the Kadischi Project isn't mature enough. As you can see in the wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi the title is "Kadischi : The Fedora Live CD Project" (proposed by Hartline) > But I welcome this discussion. If a strong lead wants to step up and can: > > * Run the meeting; > * Maintain the wiki; > * Do some coding; I can do the first too. Once my exams over, Ill be working on the some coding (light). Have a look at the wiki page of kadischi. Ive even started a screenshot guide usage of kadischi here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah/KadischiScreenshots but will only be completed in a week or two. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 01:37:57 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:37:57 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C6EB44.3020504@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C6EB44.3020504@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601121737s7f49ffb1p8b061b211770dd68@mail.gmail.com> > Well, so far we have Anaconda-10.91.0 patches that patch clean, I have > submitted these to Jeremy KLatz. > Apparently Darko did not have time. create a page Kadischi/Development and add them meanwhile. I prefer everything centralized in the wiki page Kadischi > We have Chitlesh modifying the wiki here and ther. its me :) > We have a good looking .spec file that builds kadischi from CVS. add it too to the Kadischi/Development > Just a thought here.. Kadischi is the LiveCD tool. > Fedora Core LiveCD is a LiveCD. > I believe Kadischi and Fedora LiveCD just go hand in hand. J.Hartline +1 > Correct me if I'm wrong, is Kadischi is or is not Darko, or someone's > last name? > The wiki should be edited to reflect this if so, the wiki says it was > just made up or something. in a Kadischi/History page? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From cnegus at mwt.net Fri Jan 13 04:44:47 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:44:47 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 21:44 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Michael Kearey wrote: > If you are deviating from the stock FC4 packages, please specify your > utilities and packages in Fedora/base/comps.xml > and likewise, run genhdlist and pkgorder to reflect the changes also. I > have /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime in my $PATH on the build machine here. Is there any documentation available on the anaconda-runtime utilities? Is vi the tool for modifying comps.xml? If someone can help me figure out how to do it, I'd be glad to write up a procedure for incorporating a custom set of packages into the build of a Fedora live CD. Thanks! -- Chris Negus From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 12:33:56 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:33:56 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601121734u5d1aefu51444ebfe18910c@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601121734u5d1aefu51444ebfe18910c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C79E34.10209@adelphia.net> I like the screenshot(s) idea, however I personally think the terminal shot is unneccessary. The screenshot on the front of the Kadischi wiki shoudn't be replaced. If users cannot follow some sort of standard directions they shouldn't be building thier own LiveCD they should just get Knoppix 8-) Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >>* Run the meeting; >>* Maintain the wiki; >>* Do some coding; >> >> > >I can do the first too. Once my exams over, Ill be working on the some >coding (light). >Have a look at the wiki page of kadischi. > >Ive even started a screenshot guide usage of kadischi here: >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah/KadischiScreenshots >but will only be completed in a week or two. > > > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 12:38:56 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:38:56 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601121737s7f49ffb1p8b061b211770dd68@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C6EB44.3020504@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601121737s7f49ffb1p8b061b211770dd68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C79F60.8090604@adelphia.net> Ahhhh no. I meant on the KadischiFAQ. It is to my understanding Kadischi isn't an Arabic man you only seen twice in your life ;-) it is someone's last name. The KadischiFAQ states someone just made this name up. If they did.. they got one heck of a sandy imagination! I think the FAQ as all pages on fedoraproject.org and with the Kadischi should be correct. Hopefully we get some information like this confirmed so it can or can't be changed. J. Hartline Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >>Correct me if I'm wrong, is Kadischi is or is not Darko, or someone's >>last name? >>The wiki should be edited to reflect this if so, the wiki says it was >>just made up or something. >> >> > >in a Kadischi/History page? > > > > From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 12:44:49 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:44:49 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C79E34.10209@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601121734u5d1aefu51444ebfe18910c@mail.gmail.com> <43C79E34.10209@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601130444t4678c30i4a5a85f8c2ed96ac@mail.gmail.com> On 1/13/06, J. Hartline wrote: > I like the screenshot(s) idea, however I personally think the terminal > shot is unneccessary. The terminal shot shows how it was executed. afterwards it's anaconda. > The screenshot on the front of the Kadischi wiki shoudn't be replaced. True. The screenshot idea is only meant for the KadischiDOC. Because I intend to create an example. Maybe Ill named it "Fedora Live CD in 20 minutes". Yes it took me 20 mins for one iso. The screenshot on the Kadischi Frontpage is the live cd itself. I also agree for not changing it. By the way, we need more screenshots of the livecd with famous applications like firefox,thunderbird or openoffice > If users cannot follow some sort of standard directions they shouldn't > be building thier own LiveCD > they should just get Knoppix 8-) nope, they should get one that we created for fedora. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 13:15:02 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:15:02 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <43C7A7D6.7090602@adelphia.net> It is sort of funny you ask that, some RFEs have been getting filed on alot of these utilities, anaconda and yum alike. They are excellent tools, I mean they work. I suppose you could contact Jeremy Katz on anaconda-deve-list and ask him. As far as comps is concerned, it is fairly easy. Here is an example scenario.. You have KDE and Gnome. You can't install anything on that LiveCD after it has been spun. You want Fluxbox? comps.xml is where you need to be. From start to end, you'll need to put fluxbox and all of it's deps into your repository. Run pkgorder and genhdlist to reflect these changes. Open up comps.xml (I'll leave alot of this research for you to do on your own, you could possibly contribute to the wiki?) This sounds like a KadischiFAQ to me. It is going to be like this pretty much: GroupID Name Small descriptional text For groups, you will have settings for true or false, depending on whether it should install, by default. You will likewise have: which is just what it means. True or false. foo bar foo-bar (End of that Group.) And thats it for a Group. Remember what your GroupID was you had set earlier. Lets bounce to the bottom of comps.xml. We have: and we also have and . You will use your \\// with these. They go in a simple descending order. Groups, Categories with subcategories and Grouplists and GroupRequirements and finally GroupHierarchies, such as Desktop, Workstation, Server, Everything and Minimal. I'll leave the brainstorming to you. Don't forget to run pkgorder and genhdlist if you plan you use anything except Fedora Core provided stock packages. If you put updates in your repositories, run these tools also. Things can and will change in packages. This should help you get an idea of how Anaconda will devide things up. J. Hartline Ok. I hope this helps a bit. Chris Negus wrote: >Is there any documentation available on the anaconda-runtime utilities? >Is vi the tool for modifying comps.xml? If someone can help me figure >out how to do it, I'd be glad to write up a procedure for incorporating >a custom set of packages into the build of a Fedora live CD. Thanks! > >-- Chris Negus > > > > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 13:16:56 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:16:56 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <43C7A848.9010902@adelphia.net> Oh.. Do note, that if you add anything that Fedora Core maintainers wouldn't add, you aren't using a Fedora Core CD. 8-) Chris Negus wrote: >If someone can help me figure >out how to do it, I'd be glad to write up a procedure for incorporating >a custom set of packages into the build of a Fedora live CD. Thanks! > >-- Chris Negus > > > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 13:31:10 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:31:10 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601130444t4678c30i4a5a85f8c2ed96ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601121734u5d1aefu51444ebfe18910c@mail.gmail.com> <43C79E34.10209@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601130444t4678c30i4a5a85f8c2ed96ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C7AB9E.9040509@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >The terminal shot shows how it was executed. afterwards it's anaconda. > > I don't like it, I think the existing documentation says it all. >True. >The screenshot idea is only meant for the KadischiDOC. Because I >intend to create an example. Maybe Ill named it "Fedora Live CD in 20 >minutes". Yes it took me 20 mins for one iso. > > Yeah, I've created about 50 of them to disk. It is a good utility and doesn't break with a local HDD repository. Later I'll be looking more into instdata.py, image.py, anaconda.py and kadischi.py for locating the problem with a locally mounted DVD as repository some have been experiencing. I still think the termina shot is unneccessary. J. Hartline From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 15:16:48 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:16:48 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C7AB9E.9040509@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601121734u5d1aefu51444ebfe18910c@mail.gmail.com> <43C79E34.10209@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601130444t4678c30i4a5a85f8c2ed96ac@mail.gmail.com> <43C7AB9E.9040509@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601130716p72805cc9r209830b6a9507c0f@mail.gmail.com> > I still think the termina shot is unneccessary. I will remove it then :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From cnegus at mwt.net Fri Jan 13 15:50:32 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:50:32 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C7A848.9010902@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> <43C7A848.9010902@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137167432.2282.240.camel@einstein> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 07:16 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Oh.. Do note, that if you add anything that Fedora Core maintainers > wouldn't add, you aren't using a Fedora Core CD. > 8-) Actually, my main interest is in building in some Fedora Extras packages. I'd like to petition the branding people to allow me to put the Fedora Project logo on it. In other words, I wouldn't put anything on the CD/DVD that wasn't under control of the Fedora Project. I figure it doesn't hurt to ask. The next best thing I would hope for is that the Fedora Project will allow a branding that is like what the Debian project allows with their "open use" logo for those who build stuff from Debian: http://www.us.debian.org/logos/ I think this is the more honest approach, since it would acknowledge that the CD is about 95% Fedora Core, but would let people know that it is not officially recognized by the Fedora Project. -- Chris Negus From cnegus at mwt.net Fri Jan 13 15:53:17 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:53:17 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <43C7A7D6.7090602@adelphia.net> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> <43C7A7D6.7090602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137167597.2282.244.camel@einstein> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 07:15 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > As far as comps is concerned, it is fairly easy. > Here is an example scenario.. > You have KDE and Gnome. You can't install anything on that LiveCD after > it has been spun. > You want Fluxbox? comps.xml is where you need to be. > From start to end, you'll need to put fluxbox and all of it's deps into > your repository. > Run pkgorder and genhdlist to reflect these changes. > Open up comps.xml (I'll leave alot of this research for you to do on > your own, you could possibly contribute to the wiki?) > This sounds like a KadischiFAQ to me. Okay. Thanks. I'll try it and document my steps for the Wiki. -- Chris Negus From sopwith at redhat.com Fri Jan 13 16:00:38 2006 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:00:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C79F60.8090604@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C6EB44.3020504@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601121737s7f49ffb1p8b061b211770dd68@mail.gmail.com> <43C79F60.8090604@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, J. Hartline wrote: > It is to my understanding Kadischi isn't an Arabic man you only seen > twice in your life ;-) > it is someone's last name. The KadischiFAQ states someone just made this > name up. > If they did.. they got one heck of a sandy imagination! Kadischi is just a random word I made up for Darko that included the string 'disc'. It's not /intentionally/ someone's last name, although if I have offended a Mr. Kadischi, I apologize. :) Best, -- Elliot Red Hat Summit Nashville (May 30 - June 2, 2006) http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/ From sundaram at redhat.com Fri Jan 13 16:23:43 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:53:43 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1137167432.2282.240.camel@einstein> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> <43C7A848.9010902@adelphia.net> <1137167432.2282.240.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <43C7D40F.8050905@redhat.com> Chris Negus wrote: >On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 07:16 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > > >>Oh.. Do note, that if you add anything that Fedora Core maintainers >>wouldn't add, you aren't using a Fedora Core CD. >>8-) >> >> > >Actually, my main interest is in building in some Fedora Extras >packages. I'd like to petition the branding people to allow me to put >the Fedora Project logo on it. In other words, I wouldn't put anything >on the CD/DVD that wasn't under control of the Fedora Project. I figure >it doesn't hurt to ask. > > > There is a plan to do just that. Pending counsel advise now. Fedora-marketing list might be a better place to discuss trademark guidelines. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 16:51:40 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:51:40 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1137167432.2282.240.camel@einstein> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> <43C7A848.9010902@adelphia.net> <1137167432.2282.240.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <43C7DA9C.5000707@adelphia.net> Chris Negus wrote: >Actually, my main interest is in building in some Fedora Extras >packages. I'd like to petition the branding people to allow me to put >the Fedora Project logo on it. In other words, I wouldn't put anything >on the CD/DVD that wasn't under control of the Fedora Project. I figure >it doesn't hurt to ask. > > I'm not absolutely sure who to talk to about something like that.. I think you might contact Karsten Wade with Redhat, Inc. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 13 16:55:12 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:55:12 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601101621n534d1032m832ecf46b939c432@mail.gmail.com> <43C6EB44.3020504@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601121737s7f49ffb1p8b061b211770dd68@mail.gmail.com> <43C79F60.8090604@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43C7DB70.8000902@adelphia.net> Excellent. I had come across something on Kadischi a while ago, and for some reason I had the impression it was someones name. Thank you for clarifications. J. Hartline Elliot Lee wrote: >Kadischi is just a random word I made up for Darko that included the >string 'disc'. It's not /intentionally/ someone's last name, although if >I have offended a Mr. Kadischi, I apologize. :) > >Best, >-- Elliot > > From lsl at manasystems.co.uk Fri Jan 13 18:35:06 2006 From: lsl at manasystems.co.uk (Matt Bird) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:35:06 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Newbie question... In-Reply-To: <20060113165531.31EF172FDB@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060113165531.31EF172FDB@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43C7F2DA.8060203@manasystems.co.uk> Hi all, Lurking around for a while and have just started playing with kadischi, building my first iso about 5 mins ago! Basically I want to create a custom bootdisk using standard fedora packages defined in a kickstart profile. So far so good, I know enough about kickstart this isnt a problem, the only thing I cant figure out, and this is where is gets laim :-) is is it possible to change the background image (gnome). I was thinking of using either kickstart post_install or kadischi post install scripts to change /usr/share/backgrounds/images/default.png to my own version before compression. Basically what im asking is, is this a workable method, which of the two scripts would be best, or is there another, better way of doing it. Thanks Matt From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 14 00:08:01 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:08:01 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Newbie question... In-Reply-To: <43C7F2DA.8060203@manasystems.co.uk> References: <20060113165531.31EF172FDB@hormel.redhat.com> <43C7F2DA.8060203@manasystems.co.uk> Message-ID: <43C840E1.7070308@adelphia.net> Matt Bird wrote: > is is it possible to > change the background image (gnome). I was thinking of using either > kickstart post_install or kadischi post install scripts to change > /usr/share/backgrounds/images/default.png to my own version before > compression. Basically what im asking is, is this a workable method, > which of the two scripts would be best, or is there another, better > way of doing it. > > Thanks > Matt Probably during 06sysconfig post installation script. Alternatively you can make your own, they'll run in succession by numer, 01, 02, 03, 04, etc. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 14 18:34:15 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:34:15 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi - FAQ Message-ID: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> Hi. I've added a FAQ to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/FAQ however, it was recommended to me that we use the same sort of format used here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ which is fine to me. Chitlesh, if you can do the changes neccessary to teh FAQ pages, or get back to me on this subject, or anyone else for that matter.. I can add that to the FAQ. If anyone is curious the FAQ was derived straight from this mailing list. I would think going into it in more detail would be ok, but depending on how it is written it could take up a large amount of FAQ space, which I don't think is an issue except cosmetically. Optionally, just the mention of pkgorder, genhdlist, comps.xml and adding RPM packages in the repo dir could also be sufficient. Some FAQs may warrant large answers, some may not. When that time comes I guess we'll figure it out. :0 J. Hartline From chitlesh at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:49:43 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:49:43 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi - FAQ In-Reply-To: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> References: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601141049k4f19c6bfs89102c3127ec37b@mail.gmail.com> On 1/14/06, J. Hartline wrote: > Hi. > I've added a FAQ to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/FAQ > however, it was recommended to me that we use the same > sort of format used here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ > which is fine to me. Chitlesh, if you can do the changes neccessary > to teh FAQ pages, or get back to me on this subject, or anyone else for > that matter.. > I can add that to the FAQ. > > If anyone is curious the FAQ was derived straight from this mailing list. > I would think going into it in more detail would be ok, but depending on > how it is written > it could take up a large amount of FAQ space, which I don't think is an > issue except cosmetically. > > Optionally, just the mention of pkgorder, genhdlist, comps.xml and > adding RPM packages in the repo dir > could also be sufficient. Some FAQs may warrant large answers, some may not. > When that time comes I guess we'll figure it out. :0 Excellent. Ive already done the layout of KadischiFAQ :) Sounds like the '''How do I add my own packages for use in building a custom LiveCD with Kadischi?''' is incomplete . -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 13:27:38 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:27:38 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Weekly Report? Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601150527l6d893e1cv4123148a992616fd@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Ive started a weekly report for the kadischi project. This project will describes briefly our progress during the previous week. At first i started here http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/Kadischi_Report_16_Jan_2006 and after RahulSundaram propose to create a Projects/Weekly Reports where weekly reports from each project will be published. We are also scheduled a weekly deadline for report submission. It is Monday. Today is quite too soon for other projects to catch up. So Ill ask Thomas Chung to publish our weekly news on Fedoranews tomorrow. If you have anything to add or say about the report. do it now. Because tomorrow it will be published. a request to all kadischi contributors to sign at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Contributors JasperHartline can you please create a wikipage for yourself under : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JasperHartline Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 13:50:40 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:50:40 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Weekly Report? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601150527l6d893e1cv4123148a992616fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601150527l6d893e1cv4123148a992616fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601150550r485996d9o9efcc37f90d1cbe0@mail.gmail.com> Forgot to mention, any translation is welcome. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:40:55 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:40:55 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi Screenshots in osdir.com Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601151040x34411b3dp44aa1ad553f1985f@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, My screenshots of Kadischi has been accepted by Chris Haney of osdir.com Here is the link : http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=551&slide=1&title=kasdischi+(fedora+live+cd Chitlesh Goorah -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 13:16:32 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:16:32 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] wiki editing reminder ! Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601160516o174bab75i688d5ad90a8a59@mail.gmail.com> Hello Kadischi Contributors, lately we are having new contributors. Welcome :) Ive created a small "how to test" in Kadischi/Contributors to ease the starting point. I would like to remind 2 guidelines of the fedoraproject wiki page: 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages (mainly for Translators) The fedoraproject has a page where contributors write their names when they are off for holidays. This page is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Vacation . There is a link on Kadischi/Contributors Roozbeh Pournader cautions the use of Country flags in the wiki pages http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#Flags Ive already removed those on Kadischi Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Mon Jan 16 12:19:06 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:19:06 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] CVS Commit Message-ID: <43CB8F3A.1020906@adelphia.net> Hi. I answered back the other day, someone suggesting they could grant some sort of access to the CVS for kadischi. The message may have not been sent. If Elliot Lee (sp?) or anyone else could get back with me on this I would like to get things on the bugzilla commited to the CVS. Them being: 1) newrpms-kadischi-userbuild.patch 2) A .spec file Not too much. Thanks. J. Hartline From tony at tgds.net Mon Jan 16 16:27:18 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:27:18 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] The list lives Message-ID: <1137428839.14492.38.camel@hush.localdomain> Nice seeing that it isn't as quiet as it was. Don't want to spoil anyone's fun but kadischi only works with stock Fedora Kernels which lessens its interest somewhat... Another bug which I signalled is that during the run anaconda nukes my /etc/resolv.conf file on the host machine. Most people don't have this problem I have it all the time. So to date I have been able to make heavily modified CDs with custom x.org rpms and lots of other funky stuff like xine and VDR but I can not build with a custom kernel build from the FC src rpm. Cheers Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Mon Jan 16 19:32:21 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:32:21 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] The list lives In-Reply-To: <1137428839.14492.38.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137428839.14492.38.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43CBF4C5.9040802@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >Nice seeing that it isn't as quiet as it was. > >Don't want to spoil anyone's fun but kadischi only works with stock >Fedora Kernels which lessens its interest somewhat... Another bug which >I signalled is that during the run anaconda nukes my /etc/resolv.conf >file on the host machine. Most people don't have this problem I have it >all the time. > > >Cheers > >Tony > > You might want to file a bug. http://bugzilla.redhat.com Fedora Extras component 'kadischi'. If you take a look here: -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 112 Jan 13 19:34 /etc/resolv.conf Is the /etc/resolv.conf here.. I'll throw in an updated kernel, kernel-smp, kernel-docs, and kernel-devel packages.. Run pkgorder and genhdlist, you can check http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/FAQ for more information on this. With rpm -qR kernel-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4 we know what we require. So we can check that against our repository. Everything meets the kernel's requirements. Move kernel* to /somewhere/backup Move kernel* to /repository/Fedora/RPMS Then run kadischi. On this SMP machine kernel and kernel-smp get installed. (If filing a bug, describe your build environment as best as possible) The ISO is made and we'll mount it via loopback to make absolutely sure nothing obvious is missing.. like a vmlinuz or initrd :-\ [root at SMP-NODE-1 boot]# pwd /mnt/iso/boot [root at SMP-NODE-1 boot]# ls -l vmlinuz* && ls -l initrd* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1551206 Jan 16 14:12 vmlinuz-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1616689 Jan 16 14:13 vmlinuz-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1006298 Jan 16 14:13 initrd-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1006293 Jan 16 14:13 initrd-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp.img [root at SMP-NODE-1 boot]# Our resolv.conf hasn't changed either: -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 112 Jan 13 19:34 /etc/resolv.conf I'm going to have to guess you may be running Kadischi/Anaconda in a VMware VM, perhaps? J. Hartline From sopwith at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 22:34:58 2006 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:34:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <43C4CC77.6070208@adelphia.net> References: <43C4CC77.6070208@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, J. Hartline wrote: > I currently have two patches that will patch clean against anaconda-10.91.0 > anaconda.patch and flags.py.patch. What I suggest is patches be > organized and preserved for now. > e.g. Keep the Fedora Core 4 patch files, along with the newer > anaconda-10.91.0 patch files. > > If something changes, so will kadischi. > I would like CVS access, I am registered at fedoraproject.org as a member. > What information do you need to grant CVS access? What I'd suggest doing is going to the Fedora Account System (https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/), creating an account, and applying for membership in the 'cvsdevel' group. I'll approve it and you'll have the access you need to do the hacking on kadischi itself (but not anaconda). Best, -- Elliot Red Hat Summit Nashville (May 30 - June 2, 2006) http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/ From katzj at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 19:14:56 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi - FAQ In-Reply-To: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> References: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137438896.2799.38.camel@bree.local.net> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 12:34 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Optionally, just the mention of pkgorder, genhdlist, comps.xml and > adding RPM packages in the repo dir > could also be sufficient. Some FAQs may warrant large answers, some may not. > When that time comes I guess we'll figure it out. :0 Note that the content related to pkgorder, genhdlist and (to a lesser extent) comps.xml will be obsolete as all of that has changed significantly in the anaconda for FC5 Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 19:18:57 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:18:57 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Status of kadischi ? In-Reply-To: <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> References: <1136617939.4953.22.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <43C1DC1C.7080001@adelphia.net> <1137127487.2282.175.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <1137439137.2799.42.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 22:44 -0600, Chris Negus wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 21:44 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > > Michael Kearey wrote: > > If you are deviating from the stock FC4 packages, please specify your > > utilities and packages in Fedora/base/comps.xml > > and likewise, run genhdlist and pkgorder to reflect the changes also. I > > have /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime in my $PATH on the build machine here. > > Is there any documentation available on the anaconda-runtime utilities? > Is vi the tool for modifying comps.xml? If someone can help me figure > out how to do it, I'd be glad to write up a procedure for incorporating > a custom set of packages into the build of a Fedora live CD. Thanks! Yes, the comps file is intended to be edited with a text editor. See http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/anaconda-installer/comps.html for a write up about the FC4 and earlier comps file. There's also a fair bit of information under http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda For FC5, some things have changed and I need to write them up, but actually making things work for FC5 is currently higher priority. :-) Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Mon Jan 16 19:20:59 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:20:59 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 11:17 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > I'm willing to take the time out here to build anything the Fedora > Project needs with kadischi, within > my bounds of course. If you need LiveCD and LiveDVD images, provide a > package list or some sort of information > in what should be on it at least. A seemingly generic LiveCD to me I > would think would be a Workstation type install, but I do believe that > stretches the bounds of 650/700MB medias. Given the fact that the live CD uses a compressed filesystem, you actually get more than it sounds like. So it probably isn't impossible to fit the majority of a desktop-y install. Jeremy From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 00:01:41 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:31:41 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> Hi Jeremy, >Given the fact that the live CD uses a compressed filesystem, you >actually get more than it sounds like. So it probably isn't impossible >to fit the majority of a desktop-y install. > >Jeremy > > Can you confirm that we can use squashfs for the LiveCD now. I believe Anaconda uses it and how much would do you think it would take to enable the Kadischi tool to better integrate with Anaconda, provide a package as part of Fedora Extras and add in capability to do hard disk installations on demand. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tony at tgds.net Tue Jan 17 07:07:46 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:07:46 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi - FAQ In-Reply-To: <1137438896.2799.38.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> <1137438896.2799.38.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1137481666.14492.60.camel@hush.localdomain> Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 ? 14:14 -0500, Jeremy Katz a ?crit : > On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 12:34 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > > Optionally, just the mention of pkgorder, genhdlist, comps.xml and > > adding RPM packages in the repo dir > > could also be sufficient. Some FAQs may warrant large answers, some may not. > > When that time comes I guess we'll figure it out. :0 > > Note that the content related to pkgorder, genhdlist and (to a lesser > extent) comps.xml will be obsolete as all of that has changed > significantly in the anaconda for FC5 Now there we have an interesting problem: - how will Kadischi cater for those who want to make LiveCDs based on FC4 and earlier? Will we have two versions of Kadischi? Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 15:19:44 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:19:44 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: References: <43C4CC77.6070208@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43CD0B10.1050203@adelphia.net> Elliot Lee wrote: >What I'd suggest doing is going to the Fedora Account System >(https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/), creating an account, and >applying for membership in the 'cvsdevel' group. I'll approve it and >you'll have the access you need to do the hacking on kadischi itself (but >not anaconda). > >Best, >-- Elliot > > I've sent all the information requested, it is all correct to my knowledge. I also understand Anaconda already has an established development group. Thanks. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 16:16:39 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi - FAQ In-Reply-To: <1137481666.14492.60.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> <1137438896.2799.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137481666.14492.60.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43CD1867.7080303@adelphia.net> tony wrote: > Now there we have an interesting problem: > > - how will Kadischi cater for those who want to make LiveCDs based on >FC4 and earlier? > >Will we have two versions of Kadischi? > >Tony > > I personally do not believe this is an issue. Also, sometimes things come to a crossroads, I think this is one of those situations. <= FC4 Anaconda uses hdlist, hdlist2, etc generated with pkgorder, genhdlist. => FC5 Anaconda uses yum like data built using createrepo. (I'm rebuilding repodata for a tree3 now, looks easy.) You'll probably want to run FC4 if building for FC4 or lower, or run FC5 if building for FC5 or higher. Is that a bad thing? From katzj at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 17:18:21 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:18:21 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 05:31 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >Given the fact that the live CD uses a compressed filesystem, you > >actually get more than it sounds like. So it probably isn't impossible > >to fit the majority of a desktop-y install. > > > > > Can you confirm that we can use squashfs for the LiveCD now. I believe > Anaconda uses it Yes, we're using squashfs for anaconda's second stage since we hit unfixable problems in cramfs, so it should be reasonable to use squashfs for the live CD. > and how much would do you think it would take to enable > the Kadischi tool to better integrate with Anaconda, provide a package > as part of Fedora Extras and add in capability to do hard disk > installations on demand. I don't understand what you're asking here... Jeremy From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 17:24:40 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:54:40 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: >On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 05:31 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >>>Given the fact that the live CD uses a compressed filesystem, you >>>actually get more than it sounds like. So it probably isn't impossible >>>to fit the majority of a desktop-y install. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Can you confirm that we can use squashfs for the LiveCD now. I believe >>Anaconda uses it >> >> > >Yes, we're using squashfs for anaconda's second stage since we hit >unfixable problems in cramfs, so it should be reasonable to use squashfs >for the live CD. > > Cool. > > >>and how much would do you think it would take to enable >>the Kadischi tool to better integrate with Anaconda, provide a package >>as part of Fedora Extras and add in capability to do hard disk >>installations on demand. >> >> > >I don't understand what you're asking here... > >Jeremy > Live CD's like Kanotix or Memphis allow direct installation to the hard disk from the Live CD. That would another way to do an Fedora Installation.Anyone can mix and match packages from Fedora Core ane Extras repositories and create a Live cd and distribute it as a formal installation of Fedora . A specific use case would be for someone to create a Fedora SELinux MCS policy live cd for a security presentation and then a do installation to the hard disk if necessary. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From katzj at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 17:29:56 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:29:56 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi - FAQ In-Reply-To: <1137481666.14492.60.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <43C94427.1020602@adelphia.net> <1137438896.2799.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137481666.14492.60.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <1137518996.20354.22.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 08:07 +0100, tony wrote: > Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 ? 14:14 -0500, Jeremy Katz a ?crit : > > On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 12:34 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > > > Optionally, just the mention of pkgorder, genhdlist, comps.xml and > > > adding RPM packages in the repo dir > > > could also be sufficient. Some FAQs may warrant large answers, some may not. > > > When that time comes I guess we'll figure it out. :0 > > > > Note that the content related to pkgorder, genhdlist and (to a lesser > > extent) comps.xml will be obsolete as all of that has changed > > significantly in the anaconda for FC5 > > Now there we have an interesting problem: > > - how will Kadischi cater for those who want to make LiveCDs based on > FC4 and earlier? > > Will we have two versions of Kadischi? Frankly, I think the right answer is to try to aggressively move forward to better support and work with FC5 rather than trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with FC4. Also, there are some changes which I think need to occur both in the distro and Kadischi itself to get to a really robust tool. I had outlined some of that to Darko a few months ago. Let me dig up that mail and send it out to the list Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 17:35:13 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:35:13 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:54 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Live CD's like Kanotix or Memphis allow direct installation to the hard > disk from the Live CD. That would another way to do an Fedora > Installation.Anyone can mix and match packages from Fedora Core ane > Extras repositories and create a Live cd and distribute it as a formal > installation of Fedora . A specific use case would be for someone to > create a Fedora SELinux MCS policy live cd for a security presentation > and then a do installation to the hard disk if necessary. The problem is that for a live CD, you need to make changes to some of the stuff that's installed and you definitely want to, eg, nuke the rpmdb (because that's just wasted space). I really don't see this as a convincingly interesting use case. Jeremy From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 16:39:30 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:39:30 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> Jeremy Katz wrote: >>and how much would do you think it would take to enable >>the Kadischi tool to better integrate with Anaconda, provide a package >>as part of Fedora Extras and add in capability to do hard disk >>installations on demand. >> >> > >I don't understand what you're asking here... > >Jeremy > > > I just wanted to say one thing, if running a built LiveCD, HDD installations would have to use a network repository for packages. There wouldn't be room but on a DVD for a whole FC tree which would work and only work for a DVD, consider 3.0GB for the tree, 1.7GB left for the live system. For any CD-to-HDD installs, you would need a network repository. Just my opinion. If this is not what you meant disregard this mail. ;-) J. Hartline From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 17:40:29 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:10:29 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD2C0D.4090800@redhat.com> Hi >The problem is that for a live CD, you need to make changes to some of >the stuff that's installed and you definitely want to, eg, nuke the >rpmdb (because that's just wasted space). > >I really don't see this as a convincingly interesting use case. > >Jeremy > This is very good for promoting new users to test drive Fedora and immediately follow up with a installation if it's deemed good. It's significantly easier to combine a live cd and a installation disk into one for a typical desktop installation with only default packages. No package selection whatsoever. It would a nice plus in promoting Fedora in various LUG's or conferences. I will write up a detailed set of use cases if required but you might as well as trust me on this one ;-). -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From katzj at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 18:03:23 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:03:23 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 11:39 -0500, J. Hartline wrote: > I just wanted to say one thing, if running a built LiveCD, HDD installations > would have to use a network repository for packages. There wouldn't be > room but on a DVD for a whole FC tree > which would work and only work for a DVD, consider 3.0GB for the tree, > 1.7GB left for the live system. Actually, I think the combo installation DVD + a live system is possible and somewhat interesting. Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 18:05:28 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:05:28 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <43CD2C0D.4090800@redhat.com> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2C0D.4090800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137521128.20354.36.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 23:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >The problem is that for a live CD, you need to make changes to some of > >the stuff that's installed and you definitely want to, eg, nuke the > >rpmdb (because that's just wasted space). > > > >I really don't see this as a convincingly interesting use case. > > > This is very good for promoting new users to test drive Fedora and > immediately follow up with a installation if it's deemed good. It's > significantly easier to combine a live cd and a installation disk into > one for a typical desktop installation with only default packages. No > package selection whatsoever. It would a nice plus in promoting Fedora > in various LUG's or conferences. I will write up a detailed set of use > cases if required but you might as well as trust me on this one ;-). Realistically, the difficult part of installation is partitioning. The package selection can be made to the point where it's really not the hard part. And being able to get from something that's a live CD to a form that makes sense on an on-disk filesystem is difficult and error-prone. It also means that you have to spend a lot of time maintaining yet another code base to set all this stuff up. I can write up a detailed list of why it's bad, but you might as well trust me on this one ;-) Jeremy From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 18:07:10 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:07:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: One day, DVD readers will populate the world the way that CD readers do now. I continue to believe that the cutting-edge work should be done in the DVD universe. The amount of work to put an image onto a CD ISO that is both useful *and* installable is just prohibitive. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 11:39 -0500, J. Hartline wrote: > > I just wanted to say one thing, if running a built LiveCD, HDD installations > > would have to use a network repository for packages. There wouldn't be > > room but on a DVD for a whole FC tree > > which would work and only work for a DVD, consider 3.0GB for the tree, > > 1.7GB left for the live system. > > Actually, I think the combo installation DVD + a live system is possible > and somewhat interesting. > > Jeremy > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 17:20:09 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD2749.3050003@adelphia.net> Jeremy Katz wrote: > The problem is that for a live CD, you need to make changes to some of > >the stuff that's installed and you definitely want to, eg, nuke the >rpmdb (because that's just wasted space). > >I really don't see this as a convincingly interesting use case. > >Jeremy > > > You could remove it but, you lose the functionality of querying the rpmdb for anything. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 17:26:58 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:26:58 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137521128.20354.36.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2858.90402@redhat.com> <1137519313.20354.29.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD2C0D.4090800@redhat.com> <1137521128.20354.36.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD28E2.4080201@adelphia.net> Jeremy Katz wrote: >And being able to get from something that's a live CD to a form that >makes sense on an on-disk filesystem is difficult and error-prone. It >also means that you have to spend a lot of time maintaining yet another >code base to set all this stuff up. I can write up a detailed list of >why it's bad, but you might as well trust me on this one ;-) > >Jeremy > > > With a bit of work, the kadischi package can be installed to the LiveCD system, and partition and install just as if Anaconda had been run from a system disc. That is just my opinion. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 17:29:49 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD298D.8070203@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >One day, DVD readers will populate the world the way that CD readers do >now. > >I continue to believe that the cutting-edge work should be done in the DVD >universe. The amount of work to put an image onto a CD ISO that is both >useful *and* installable is just prohibitive. > >--g > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org >Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'd have to concur, and suggest that a live system only reside on any CD images. The installable/live DVD is much more practical. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 17:32:36 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CD2A34.5010608@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >One day, DVD readers will populate the world the way that CD readers do >now. > >I continue to believe that the cutting-edge work should be done in the DVD >universe. The amount of work to put an image onto a CD ISO that is both >useful *and* installable is just prohibitive. > >--g > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org >Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > & would still be plausible, if using a network repository, not everyone has a DVDROM readers. From cnegus at mwt.net Tue Jan 17 18:56:49 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:56:49 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1137524209.2620.73.camel@einstein> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 13:03 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 11:39 -0500, J. Hartline wrote: > > I just wanted to say one thing, if running a built LiveCD, HDD installations > > would have to use a network repository for packages. There wouldn't be > > room but on a DVD for a whole FC tree > > which would work and only work for a DVD, consider 3.0GB for the tree, > > 1.7GB left for the live system. > > Actually, I think the combo installation DVD + a live system is possible > and somewhat interesting. That's what I was thinking. Considering the compressed file system, I would think that you could get a lot of stuff in 1.7GB. This way you have a fairly complete live CD and a full FC5 install from the same medium. Is there much more to it than just combining the contents of the install DVD and live CD and changing some isolinux files? -- Chris Negus From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 17 18:40:29 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:40:29 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: <1137524209.2620.73.camel@einstein> References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> <1137524209.2620.73.camel@einstein> Message-ID: <43CD3A1D.3020909@adelphia.net> Chris Negus wrote: >That's what I was thinking. Considering the compressed file system, I >would think that you could get a lot of stuff in 1.7GB. This way you >have a fairly complete live CD and a full FC5 install from the same >medium. > >Is there much more to it than just combining the contents of the install >DVD and live CD and changing some isolinux files? > >-- Chris Negus > > > Complete is aroung 7GB :-P besides that the fastest solution I can come up with in theory is Kadischi be installed to the medium and utilize Anaconda as it would if on a rw HDD, writing all files needed by Anaconda in the ramfs. As far as partitioning or not, is another story. I suppose Jeremy could tell you why or why Anaconda wouldn't run from a standard CD media, and be able to install to selected HDD as prescribed by existing Anaconda code base. The trouble I think I'm seeing is that Anaconda or Kadischi needs to distinguish between these, and skip or do steps needed in that situation. From the looks of it.. --rootpath *does do* partitioning. Good for installing from an existing live system, bad for making the live system in the beginning. Also, emphasis will need to be put on how this tool should look in the long run.. Should kadischi in and of itself accomodate for users building custom live media, or just generic? Sort of like it is now? So we have a sort of double sided mirror, Kadischi, the custom LiveCD(DVD) tool.. or Fedora Core LiveCD(DVD) with kadischi and HDD installation methods, or both? My vote is for both in the long run. I believe this is part of the robustness that it needs. J. Hartline From notting at redhat.com Tue Jan 17 21:22:20 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:22:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] an introduction... Message-ID: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Hi, I'm Bill, and I'm one of the resident old persons/man-behind-the-curtain @ RH. Something I'm intending to work on in the near future is integrating the stuff for readonly-root into the base OS; this means that, when done, most of the stuff in rc/ shouldn't be needed any more. Ideally, all that kadischi will need to do will be write the /etc/sysconfig/readonly-root file - there shouldn't need to be any image prep or similar. Some of the format of what gets done to enable running readonly may change somewhat, as the idea is to have a single framework shared by livecd, stateless, or other similar projects. I'll do my best to not break kadischi too much without sending patches. Bill From tim.wood at datawranglers.com Wed Jan 18 03:38:50 2006 From: tim.wood at datawranglers.com (Tim Wood) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:38:50 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] new here Message-ID: <98146606-203E-49E3-B781-F6AB50EECB1F@datawranglers.com> The great mailing list in the sky told me to do it, so... hello Anyway... I just stumbled on the fedora livecd project. Exciting stuff. I'm actually going to use it with CentOS, a close relative of Fedora. I'll try to make notes on anything with Kadischi that's specific to CentOS in case anyone else wants to use it with CentOS/ WBEL/etc. Tim Wood From mkearey at redhat.com Wed Jan 18 05:59:19 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:59:19 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] an introduction... In-Reply-To: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137563959.6101.36.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 16:22 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Hi, I'm Bill, and I'm one of the resident old persons/man-behind-the-curtain > @ RH. > > Something I'm intending to work on in the near future is integrating the > stuff for readonly-root into the base OS; this means that, when done, > most of the stuff in rc/ shouldn't be needed any more. > > Ideally, all that kadischi will need to do will be write the > /etc/sysconfig/readonly-root file - there shouldn't need to be any > image prep or similar. > > Some of the format of what gets done to enable running readonly > may change somewhat, as the idea is to have a single framework shared > by livecd, stateless, or other similar projects. I'll do my best > to not break kadischi too much without sending patches. Hi there, I was thinking that it would be a good design decision to seperate anything that alters the installed system from the kadisck package and place it into an RPM package that is installed for the LiveCD system. ie anything that is currently in kadischi that patches, or alters anything in the root filesystem of the liveCD instance should be removed. Anything that is required at run time for a liveCD should be in a sepearte RPM package. This will make kadischi as general as possible, and also make it easier to utilise kadischi to build other RPM based distro's liveCD's - create a custom RPM for each leaving kadischi itself unchanged. Cheers, Michael From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 07:50:25 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:50:25 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] an introduction... In-Reply-To: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601172350vd94d1c7uc22a67df92108184@mail.gmail.com> > Some of the format of what gets done to enable running readonly > may change somewhat, as the idea is to have a single framework shared > by livecd, stateless, or other similar projects. I'll do my best > to not break kadischi too much without sending patches. > > Bill Thank you for informing us. Nevertheless, Ive a question. Should those who are coding for Kadischi wait till the migration is complete? Do keep us tuned about the patches and if possible some docs along :) Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 07:59:14 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:59:14 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] new here In-Reply-To: <98146606-203E-49E3-B781-F6AB50EECB1F@datawranglers.com> References: <98146606-203E-49E3-B781-F6AB50EECB1F@datawranglers.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601172359h3ed3915ct17d5b82b412eff03@mail.gmail.com> > I'm actually going to use it with CentOS, a close relative of > Fedora. I'll try to make notes on anything with Kadischi that's > specific to CentOS in case anyone else wants to use it with CentOS/ > WBEL/etc. > > Tim Wood Hello, your participation is welcome. Do give it a try. Ill encourage you to make notes and paste it to the list or to the wiki. Maybe you'll be a "Kadischi Ambassador" to the CentOS :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 18 12:26:40 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:26:40 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] new here In-Reply-To: <98146606-203E-49E3-B781-F6AB50EECB1F@datawranglers.com> References: <98146606-203E-49E3-B781-F6AB50EECB1F@datawranglers.com> Message-ID: <43CE3400.7030006@adelphia.net> Tim Wood wrote: > The great mailing list in the sky told me to do it, so... hello > > Anyway... I just stumbled on the fedora livecd project. Exciting stuff. > > I'm actually going to use it with CentOS, a close relative of > Fedora. I'll try to make notes on anything with Kadischi that's > specific to CentOS in case anyone else wants to use it with CentOS/ > WBEL/etc. Watch out for modifed source. I personally haven't m > > Tim Wood > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From tim.wood at datawranglers.com Wed Jan 18 14:44:47 2006 From: tim.wood at datawranglers.com (Tim Wood) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:44:47 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] new here In-Reply-To: <43CE3400.7030006@adelphia.net> References: <98146606-203E-49E3-B781-F6AB50EECB1F@datawranglers.com> <43CE3400.7030006@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <749D9431-A887-4D09-9621-06674977EA6D@datawranglers.com> > Watch out for modifed source. I personally haven't m Part of your message got cut off. As far as modified source, I'll definitely watch that. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim.wood at datawranglers.com Wed Jan 18 14:55:07 2006 From: tim.wood at datawranglers.com (Tim Wood) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:55:07 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] archive Message-ID: <481B1197-8833-44F4-AB9A-6E892A75664B@datawranglers.com> Is there a mail archive anywhere? From notting at redhat.com Wed Jan 18 15:50:19 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:50:19 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] an introduction... In-Reply-To: <1137563959.6101.36.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1137563959.6101.36.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060118155019.GD29930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Michael Kearey (mkearey at redhat.com) said: > ie anything that is currently in kadischi that patches, or alters > anything in the root filesystem of the liveCD instance should be > removed. Anything that is required at run time for a liveCD should be in > a sepearte RPM package. I wouldn't go that far. There still should be support for a %post in kadischi, even if it's just for things like enabling/disabling services, writing out a default config (point at your local LDAP server? NFS server?), etc. It's just that the raw bits to actually run sanely in R/O mode shouldn't need to be in kadischi. Bill From tim.wood at datawranglers.com Wed Jan 18 16:04:31 2006 From: tim.wood at datawranglers.com (Tim Wood) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:04:31 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] an introduction... In-Reply-To: <20060118155019.GD29930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1137563959.6101.36.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060118155019.GD29930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <98A3AF89-D3C6-4985-9572-7A951A7CFEBD@datawranglers.com> Not having done more than read the docs/faq/etc, I'm going to go on a limb and echo this. My motivation for using kadischi is the ability to create various custom live cds ala INSERT, Knoppix but based on the flavor of linux I know inside and out. Although creating custom RPMs could theoretically get me there, I can see two problems with this approach First... the subjective objection... Some tasks just feel wrong (to me) in a RPM ... such as modifying Desktop Patterns and menus. Second... a practical one... When I'm first trying something out, I'd like some simpler option. Right now (if I read the docs write), I've got a number of post-RPM ways to modify the CD. If people no longer have a way to make and test something before creating an entire RPM, it's going to real hurt the usefulness of this tool. Right now, it feels like a progression of ways to make modifications that can be used as appropriate. Granted I'm exagerating, but I've never liked having to build a factory before I can see if my sink idea is any good. my (uninformed?) 2cents... Tim Wood On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:50 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > I wouldn't go that far. There still should be support for a %post > in kadischi, even if it's just for things like enabling/disabling > services, writing out a default config (point at your local LDAP > server? NFS server?), etc. It's just that the raw bits to actually > run sanely in R/O mode shouldn't need to be in kadischi. > > Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 18 15:58:04 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:58:04 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] an introduction... In-Reply-To: <20060118155019.GD29930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060117212220.GH19107@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1137563959.6101.36.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <20060118155019.GD29930@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CE658C.8090101@adelphia.net> Bill Nottingham wrote: > I wouldn't go that far. There still should be support for a %post > >in kadischi, even if it's just for things like enabling/disabling >services, writing out a default config (point at your local LDAP >server? NFS server?), etc. It's just that the raw bits to actually >run sanely in R/O mode shouldn't need to be in kadischi. > >Bill > > As of now, Kadischi has post_install_scripts that are run while the system is still uncompressed. And yes, some bits are still needed, the initrd, and kernel cannot be compressed. The services, LDAP, NFS configuration sounds really good. As I've said, Services, Gateway/DHCP server, and runlevel choices are obvious ones. Basically in kadischi now.. kadischi.tar.gz will get unarchived in the ramfs and do a pivot_root. Init then starts. You really only have a few directories that aren't writeable. The ones that are, are: /root /home /etc /var /tmp /opt /mnt and /media. All other directories are RO. I believe you could throw some work into the post_install_scripts. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 18 16:11:26 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] archive In-Reply-To: <481B1197-8833-44F4-AB9A-6E892A75664B@datawranglers.com> References: <481B1197-8833-44F4-AB9A-6E892A75664B@datawranglers.com> Message-ID: <43CE68AE.7020400@adelphia.net> Tim Wood wrote: > Is there a mail archive anywhere? > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list take a look there From chitlesh at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 19:17:33 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:17:33 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] archive In-Reply-To: <43CE68AE.7020400@adelphia.net> References: <481B1197-8833-44F4-AB9A-6E892A75664B@datawranglers.com> <43CE68AE.7020400@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601181117o676553efm90ed68ef692f7d4d@mail.gmail.com> > Tim Wood wrote: > > > Is there a mail archive anywhere? Hello Tim, Ive added a link for the archives in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Contributors -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tataha at eng.uts.edu.au Wed Jan 18 23:44:32 2006 From: tataha at eng.uts.edu.au (Tarek Taha) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:44:32 +1100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New Message-ID: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> Hi all, I am new in this mailing list, and i would like to participate in some of the projects you guys are currently working on. If someone needs help in any project then let me know ... Regards, Tarek -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology, Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Jan 18 23:48:27 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:18:27 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> Message-ID: <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> Tarek Taha wrote: >Hi all, > > I am new in this mailing list, and i would like to participate in >some of the projects you guys are currently working on. If someone needs >help in any project then let me know ... > > Welcome to the kadischi project. We need different kinds of contributions. Refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Contributors for more details. Let us know what you are interested in contributing towards and we can take this further. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tataha at eng.uts.edu.au Thu Jan 19 00:37:44 2006 From: tataha at eng.uts.edu.au (Tarek Taha) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:37:44 +1100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au><43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> Hi again, Well am a PHD student at UTS (University of Technology Sydney), and i have masters of computer Control and B.S in Computer Engineering. My PHD is in Robotics :) i know it might sound strange, but i love software development and am good in it. I'd like to contribute it the development/Coding so how can i start and what areas of development you think you might need a hand with, need some directions ... Regards, Tarek -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology, Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 00:45:58 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:45:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> > Well am a PHD student at UTS (University of Technology Sydney), and i > have masters of computer Control and B.S in Computer Engineering. My PHD > is in Robotics :) i know it might sound strange, but i love software > development and am good in it. I'd like to contribute it the > development/Coding so how can i start and what areas of development you > think you might need a hand with, need some directions ... > Hello, Actually we are looking for a maintainer for this project. The kadischi project roadmap is mostly influenced by anaconda. Previously we had some discussions about the integration of anaconda into the OS and its related changes. see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/ Our small project is still strong nevertheless, we are having support from some RH engineers, have numerous testers and translators too :) Chitlesh GOORAH From tim.wood at datawranglers.com Thu Jan 19 03:40:10 2006 From: tim.wood at datawranglers.com (Tim Wood) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:40:10 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6707314B-C65B-4ECB-BBC7-A27E8F572611@datawranglers.com> Okay... in case someone is wondering... I'll ask the "dumb" question... what does the maintainer of the project do? On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello, > Actually we are looking for a maintainer for this project. > The kadischi project roadmap is mostly influenced by anaconda. > Previously we had some discussions about the integration of anaconda > into the OS and its related changes. > see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/ > Our small project is still strong nevertheless, > we are having support from some RH engineers, have numerous testers > and translators too :) > > Chitlesh GOORAH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkearey at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 03:57:16 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:57:16 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <6707314B-C65B-4ECB-BBC7-A27E8F572611@datawranglers.com> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> <6707314B-C65B-4ECB-BBC7-A27E8F572611@datawranglers.com> Message-ID: <1137643036.5169.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 20:40 -0700, Tim Wood wrote: > Okay... in case someone is wondering... I'll ask the "dumb" > question... what does the maintainer of the project do? Code, design, accepts patches, fixes bugs, communicates with contributors, that sort of thing. No small responsibility. I am keen to take it on, but need to create _time_ somehow :) Cheers, Michael From barzilay at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 04:14:11 2006 From: barzilay at redhat.com (David Barzilay) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:14:11 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <1137643036.5169.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> <6707314B-C65B-4ECB-BBC7-A27E8F572611@datawranglers.com> <1137643036.5169.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137644051.4343.31.camel@dhcp-68.brisbane.redhat.com> Em Qui, 2006-01-19 ?s 13:57 +1000, Michael Kearey escreveu: > On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 20:40 -0700, Tim Wood wrote: > > Okay... in case someone is wondering... I'll ask the "dumb" > > question... what does the maintainer of the project do? > > Code, design, accepts patches, fixes bugs, communicates with > contributors, that sort of thing. > > No small responsibility. I am keen to take it on, but need to create > _time_ somehow :) Hey Mike! If you find the time go for gold, mate! /me votes in Mike. Best, -- David Barzilay Fedora Global Ambassador Remote Ambassador for Brazil From tim.wood at datawranglers.com Thu Jan 19 04:17:02 2006 From: tim.wood at datawranglers.com (Tim Wood) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:17:02 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <1137643036.5169.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> <6707314B-C65B-4ECB-BBC7-A27E8F572611@datawranglers.com> <1137643036.5169.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> Message-ID: <27D110A9-9B5D-4AAE-9FF8-E6CD8C9A60BB@datawranglers.com> The time issue is why I didn't offer... but it'd be a nice notch on a belt for a PhD candidate ;-) I'll just be happy getting it to play nice with CentOS and write it up... On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Michael Kearey wrote: > Code, design, accepts patches, fixes bugs, communicates with > contributors, that sort of thing. > > No small responsibility. I am keen to take it on, but need to create > _time_ somehow :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mb at manasystems.co.uk Thu Jan 19 08:55:13 2006 From: mb at manasystems.co.uk (Matt Bird) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:55:13 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] A Kadischi script and FC5 Question In-Reply-To: <20060118075037.1FA867387A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060118075037.1FA867387A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> Hi all, Further to my earlier 'newbie' email Im progressing quite quickly with developing 'my' live CD version. Ive written a quick Perl script that sets the Gnome desktop image and changes the run level of the Live CD. Im sure most of the list members here consider it old news, but hopefully someone will benefit. The script can be found on *http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MattBird * The FC5 question relates to this sentence in the Kadischi/FAQ; "For users trying out development(FC5tx), use: createrepo //RPMS" Could someone confirm that this is the same method (and createrepo software) used in Redhat Enterprise 3 (and I assume 4) as this is what I currently use for maintaining a range of Update/Patch repositories in the course of my day job. Thanks Matt ** From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 09:03:34 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:03:34 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] A Kadischi script and FC5 Question In-Reply-To: <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> References: <20060118075037.1FA867387A@hormel.redhat.com> <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601190103n4ea578d3o6e4685ceb63f3e17@mail.gmail.com> > Further to my earlier 'newbie' email Im progressing quite quickly with > developing 'my' live CD version. Ive written a quick Perl script that > sets the Gnome desktop image and changes the run level of the Live CD. > Im sure most of the list members here consider it old news, but > hopefully someone will benefit. The script can be found on > > *http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MattBird Hello Matt Bird, Excellent job :) can you create a wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Development/07conf After wards I could add a note to the Kadischi Weekly Report about it :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gospo at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 13:46:24 2006 From: gospo at redhat.com (Andy Gospodarek) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:46:24 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New In-Reply-To: <27D110A9-9B5D-4AAE-9FF8-E6CD8C9A60BB@datawranglers.com> References: <1137627872.3876.3.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <43CED3CB.7050302@redhat.com> <1137631064.8925.5.camel@eng051217.eng.uts.edu.au> <13dbfe4f0601181645q5be76610pf960d0a66b4ce88b@mail.gmail.com> <6707314B-C65B-4ECB-BBC7-A27E8F572611@datawranglers.com> <1137643036.5169.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> <27D110A9-9B5D-4AAE-9FF8-E6CD8C9A60BB@datawranglers.com> Message-ID: <20060119134624.GD30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 09:17:02PM -0700, Tim Wood wrote: > The time issue is why I didn't offer... but it'd be a nice notch on a > belt for a PhD candidate ;-) I'll just be happy getting it to play > nice with CentOS and write it up... > > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Michael Kearey wrote: > > >Code, design, accepts patches, fixes bugs, communicates with > >contributors, that sort of thing. > > > >No small responsibility. I am keen to take it on, but need to create > >_time_ somehow :) > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list I have an interest as well, but I didn't want to publicly say anything until I actually played with it and contributed some patches, suggestions, etc. -andy From tpfennig at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 15:33:22 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:33:22 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Fedora Core Ofiicial LiveCD and DVD media In-Reply-To: References: <43C53DAF.5030905@adelphia.net> <1137439259.2799.45.camel@bree.local.net> <43CC33E5.2020908@redhat.com> <1137518302.20354.8.camel@bree.local.net> <43CD1DC2.4030803@adelphia.net> <1137521003.20354.32.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <2cbc44a0601190733l755b7242t@mail.gmail.com> 2006/1/17, Greg DeKoenigsberg : > I continue to believe that the cutting-edge work should be done in the DVD > universe. The amount of work to put an image onto a CD ISO that is both > useful *and* installable is just prohibitive. > That's what I think, too. But I think with Kadischi it is not such a problem with an "official" Live-CD because we then will have a tool that makes it easy to do many versions. That's why I love the idea behind Kadischi. But I also think Fedora could make it into the news ift it was the jorst MAJOR distribution that would come with a n official LIve-DVD. maybe next time. But maybe another distribution will be quicker, then. Thilo -- http://www.pfennigsolutions.de From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 19 15:05:57 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:05:57 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] A Kadischi script and FC5 Question In-Reply-To: <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> References: <20060118075037.1FA867387A@hormel.redhat.com> <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> Message-ID: <43CFAAD5.9050406@adelphia.net> Matt Bird wrote: > * > The FC5 question relates to this sentence in the Kadischi/FAQ; > "For users trying out development(FC5tx), use: > createrepo //RPMS" > Could someone confirm that this is the same method (and createrepo > software) used in Redhat Enterprise 3 (and I assume 4) as this is > what I currently use for maintaining a range of Update/Patch > repositories in the course of my day job. > Thanks > Matt I wrote that there in cae anyone wanted to muck with RAWHIDE CDs. It is incomplete and no, I cannot say myself that is what they use in RHEL, or if they even have createrepo. All things relating on the Kadischi/FAQ are going to be FC derived. Your application to other distributions is your own exercise. :-D From katzj at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 17:15:04 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:15:04 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping Message-ID: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> I spent a little bit of time a few months ago looking at Kadischi and sent Darko a bit of feedback (also based on some mail from him on what he saw the next steps as being). So, I figure it's time that I take that information and dump it for the wider audience now. Most of the suggestions are from the standpoint of trying to minimize the delta needed for creating a live CD and using existing infrastructure as much as possible (even in cases where that requires extending the infrastructure for things to work more cleanly). In the longer term, they're the sorts of things that make it so that live CDs can be more prevalent in the Fedora space and require less special case work to maintain. * The initrds currently being generated by Kadischi are from a one off script rather than utilizing mkinitrd. This means that you have to generate the initrd by hand afterwards instead of having the kernel post script do it for you. It also means that changes have to be tracked in the Kadischi version of the script. With the mkinitrd currently in rawhide, there is the ability to override commands from nash. Also, with the support for handling multiple initramfs's, a secondary initramfs can be created that just has the overriden commands. For ensuring that modules get included in the initrd, there is some support for overriding things that are detected via /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd -- we probably want to make it so that anaconda ensures that /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd is generated correctly so the first time an initrd is created, it's "right" * The ro root initscripts changes need to be integrated. But I think Bill is going to be actively working on this ;-) * There's been an ongoing concern that including support for every language Core supports on the live CD leads to a lot of space usage and wanting to strip down the content of /usr/share/locale. Instead of just nuking them in a post script, having a way to get anaconda to set % _install_langs isn't unreasonable, as long as it's not really being exposed in the UI of anaconda * What to do with firstboot? Do we want to show it at all, only do a subset of the config options? * How well does the X autoconfig work currently? I seem to remember it was working okay, so this might not be a huge concern That's a start based on my hazy memory at this point. And I'm willing to help people with any of them, but I definitely don't have time to drive them forward at this point. Jeremy From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 20:57:38 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:27:38 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Jeremy Katz wrote: >I spent a little bit of time a few months ago looking at Kadischi and >sent Darko a bit of feedback (also based on some mail from him on what >he saw the next steps as being). So, I figure it's time that I take >that information and dump it for the wider audience now. > >Most of the suggestions are from the standpoint of trying to minimize >the delta needed for creating a live CD and using existing >infrastructure as much as possible (even in cases where that requires >extending the infrastructure for things to work more cleanly). In the >longer term, they're the sorts of things that make it so that live CDs >can be more prevalent in the Fedora space and require less special case >work to maintain. > >* The initrds currently being generated by Kadischi are from a one off >script rather than utilizing mkinitrd. This means that you have to >generate the initrd by hand afterwards instead of having the kernel post >script do it for you. It also means that changes have to be tracked in >the Kadischi version of the script. With the mkinitrd currently in >rawhide, there is the ability to override commands from nash. Also, >with the support for handling multiple initramfs's, a secondary >initramfs can be created that just has the overriden commands. For >ensuring that modules get included in the initrd, there is some support >for overriding things that are detected via /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd -- >we probably want to make it so that anaconda ensures >that /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd is generated correctly so the first time an >initrd is created, it's "right" >* The ro root initscripts changes need to be integrated. But I think >Bill is going to be actively working on this ;-) > > Is this part of Stateless Linux? >* There's been an ongoing concern that including support for every >language Core supports on the live CD leads to a lot of space usage and >wanting to strip down the content of /usr/share/locale. Instead of just >nuking them in a post script, having a way to get anaconda to set % >_install_langs isn't unreasonable, as long as it's not really being >exposed in the UI of anaconda >* What to do with firstboot? Do we want to show it at all, only do a >subset of the config options? > > Get rid of it and assume sane default and Fedora as a default user? >* How well does the X autoconfig work currently? I seem to remember it >was working okay, so this might not be a huge concern > > Seems good. Low resolution in general but that might be safer. -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From notting at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 21:00:48 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:00:48 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060119210048.GB26542@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Rahul Sundaram (sundaram at redhat.com) said: > >* The ro root initscripts changes need to be integrated. But I think > >Bill is going to be actively working on this ;-) > > Is this part of Stateless Linux? Initscripts stuff? Yes. Bill From gdk at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 21:06:20 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:06:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: All, Looks like we're getting some critical mass here again. The list has been quite active, I know a couple of Red Hat engineers have approached me personally with their interest in contributing, and we've got lots and lots of community interest here. What we don't yet have: * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, which would be incredibly useful to lots and lots of people; * A set of priorities about what to fix, and how; * A roadmap for moving forward to FC5 and beyond. Seems like maybe we've got enough people to start focusing on these issues again. Do folks agree? Is it worth getting together on IRC for an hour sometime to see if we can resuscitate this project and give it some badly-needed direction again? --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From chitlesh at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 21:08:21 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:08:21 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601191308l3538d402gbc60ad69f01bf133@mail.gmail.com> vote +1 but i can only join in meetings in 2 weeks :( (exams) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 21:09:26 2006 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:39:26 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >All, > >Looks like we're getting some critical mass here again. The list has been >quite active, I know a couple of Red Hat engineers have approached me >personally with their interest in contributing, and we've got lots and >lots of community interest here. > >What we don't yet have: > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, > > A few variants like desktop and server be nice. > which would be incredibly useful to lots and lots of people; > * A set of priorities about what to fix, and how; > * A roadmap for moving forward to FC5 and beyond. > > I would like a hack to dump a live cd to hard disk even its not supported by the project. Performance was very poor when I tried a prerelease of BlagBlagBlag that used kadischi. >Seems like maybe we've got enough people to start focusing on these issues >again. Do folks agree? Is it worth getting together on IRC for an hour >sometime to see if we can resuscitate this project and give it some >badly-needed direction again? > >--g > > Do it now in #fedora-livecd ? -- Rahul Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers From tony at tgds.net Thu Jan 19 21:54:25 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:54:25 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 ? 12:15 -0500, Jeremy Katz a ?crit : > I spent a little bit of time a few months ago looking at Kadischi and > sent Darko a bit of feedback (also based on some mail from him on what > he saw the next steps as being). So, I figure it's time that I take > that information and dump it for the wider audience now. > * The initrds currently being generated by Kadischi are from a one off > script rather than utilizing mkinitrd. This means that you have to > generate the initrd by hand afterwards instead of having the kernel post > script do it for you. It also means that changes have to be tracked in > the Kadischi version of the script. With the mkinitrd currently in > rawhide, there is the ability to override commands from nash. Also, > with the support for handling multiple initramfs's, a secondary > initramfs can be created that just has the overriden commands. For > ensuring that modules get included in the initrd, there is some support > for overriding things that are detected via /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd -- > we probably want to make it so that anaconda ensures > that /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd is generated correctly so the first time an > initrd is created, it's "right" Now I understand... Jeez all those hours wasted looking at this from all angles... Jeremy you got anything else you must tell us? =:-D The language stuff I just nuke in my comps.xml, my live CD must be French and English period. What about ssh keygen? How does one get around that? I am thinking along the lines of someone wanting to ssh from work into a VDR based PVR, his mom has to reboot the computer and it takes ages to generate keys... Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From tony at tgds.net Thu Jan 19 22:01:21 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:01:21 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 ? 02:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > >Looks like we're getting some critical mass here again. The list has been > >quite active, I know a couple of Red Hat engineers have approached me > >personally with their interest in contributing, and we've got lots and > >lots of community interest here. > > > >What we don't yet have: > > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, Meaning? I did a minimal FC4 LiveCD second time around that is easy as long as you stick to Fedora packages. What is hard is moving away from the Fedora kernels. Everything else just works as long as you RTFM > A few variants like desktop and server be nice. I have a live CD that has VDR and xine and make a great LivePVR but it is probably illegal in half the world dominated by the patent office... > I would like a hack to dump a live cd to hard disk even its not > supported by the project. Performance was very poor when I tried a > prerelease of BlagBlagBlag that used kadischi. I could use that > Do it now in #fedora-livecd ? I'm off to bed it is 23:00 and I have a life (beautiful at that =;-D) Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From gospo at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 22:18:20 2006 From: gospo at redhat.com (Andy Gospodarek) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:18:20 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060119221820.GF30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 04:06:20PM -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > All, > > Looks like we're getting some critical mass here again. The list has been > quite active, I know a couple of Red Hat engineers have approached me > personally with their interest in contributing, and we've got lots and > lots of community interest here. > > What we don't yet have: > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, > which would be incredibly useful to lots and lots of people; > * A set of priorities about what to fix, and how; > * A roadmap for moving forward to FC5 and beyond. > > Seems like maybe we've got enough people to start focusing on these issues > again. Do folks agree? Is it worth getting together on IRC for an hour > sometime to see if we can resuscitate this project and give it some > badly-needed direction again? > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list Sounds good to me. It seems there are some that just want an easy way to create a live Fedora CD/DVD for demo purposes and others that want a tool that can help them make a live Fedora-based CD/DVD. We should find a way to collaborate until kadischi is stable enough so these things can start to happen, and we probably need to have some sort of meeting to determine how we can get that started. I have no day or time preference (as long as it's a weekday...). -andy From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 19 22:21:00 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:21:00 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D010CC.9070603@adelphia.net> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I would like a hack to dump a live cd to hard disk even its not > supported by the project. Performance was very poor when I tried a > prerelease of BlagBlagBlag that used kadischi. > > You might try running prelink on the system dir before compression and ISO creation. Some folks believe this is a good idea. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 19 22:22:31 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:22:31 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D01127.2070205@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >Now I understand... Jeez all those hours wasted looking at this from all >angles... > >Jeremy you got anything else you must tell us? =:-D > > >Tony > > I sent an email to the list, it may not have reached it I'm not sure. It showed how to install a custom kernel in the LiveCD.. did you not get it? From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 19 22:25:16 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:25:16 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >Meaning? I did a minimal FC4 LiveCD second time around that is easy as >long as you stick to Fedora packages. What is hard is moving away from >the Fedora kernels. Everything else just works as long as you RTFM > > >Tony > > Any packages for Fedora will work if you use pkgorder and genhdlist, which are becoming obsolete by the new anaconda repodata and yum stuff. You can't just "add" a package to your repo directory and have it install, you need to use pkgorder and genhdlist. I've made plenty of CDs with different kernels, packages, programs, whatever. From mkearey at redhat.com Thu Jan 19 23:46:59 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:46:59 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <1137714419.22608.12.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 23:01 +0100, tony wrote: > Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 ? 02:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > > > >Looks like we're getting some critical mass here again. The list has been > > >quite active, I know a couple of Red Hat engineers have approached me > > >personally with their interest in contributing, and we've got lots and > > >lots of community interest here. > > > > > >What we don't yet have: > > > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, > > Meaning? I did a minimal FC4 LiveCD second time around that is easy as > long as you stick to Fedora packages. What is hard is moving away from > the Fedora kernels. Everything else just works as long as you RTFM The meaning of "* A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project" is ( my definition here!!) a set of ready to download, ready and working LiveCD's so that people may grab them and run them. These CD's need to adequately demonstrate what Fedora Core is, since that is one of the most common uses of a LiveCD :). Cheers, Michael From nman64 at n-man.com Fri Jan 20 02:32:42 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick Barnes) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:32:42 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Run with it! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601101414s4498f38bqca0932e85c3e7058@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D04BCA.4000608@n-man.com> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Is it also possible for to receive emails after any modification made > on livecd related page > > Visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UserPreferences and look towards the bottom of the page. Find the "Subscribed wiki pages" box and enter on a line by itself: Kadischi.* After that point, you will get update notifications for all changes to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi and its sub-pages. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thierry On 1/20/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > All, > > Looks like we're getting some critical mass here again. The list has been > quite active, I know a couple of Red Hat engineers have approached me > personally with their interest in contributing, and we've got lots and > lots of community interest here. > > What we don't yet have: > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, > which would be incredibly useful to lots and lots of people; > * A set of priorities about what to fix, and how; > * A roadmap for moving forward to FC5 and beyond. > > Seems like maybe we've got enough people to start focusing on these issues > again. Do folks agree? Is it worth getting together on IRC for an hour > sometime to see if we can resuscitate this project and give it some > badly-needed direction again? > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tgds.net Fri Jan 20 06:36:19 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:36:19 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137738980.14492.197.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 ? 17:25 -0500, J. Hartline a ?crit : > Any packages for Fedora will work if you use pkgorder and genhdlist, > which are becoming obsolete by the new anaconda repodata and yum stuff. > You can't just "add" a package to your repo directory and have it > install, you need to use pkgorder and genhdlist. I have taken that one step further and modified comps.xml > I've made plenty of CDs with different kernels, packages, programs, > whatever. I have had success with different packages and different kernels as long as they are FC kernels. Modified kernels run into the mkinitrd bug mentioned earlier Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From tony at tgds.net Fri Jan 20 06:37:08 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:37:08 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <43D01127.2070205@adelphia.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D01127.2070205@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137739029.14492.199.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 ? 17:22 -0500, J. Hartline a ?crit : > I sent an email to the list, it may not have reached it I'm not sure. > It showed how to install a custom kernel in the LiveCD.. did you not get it? No I didn't see that one. It would be printed and on my desk if I had =:-D Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 10:47:46 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:47:46 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> On 1/20/06, Thierry Jules wrote: > hi! > thinks that an excellent idea. However, while focusing on issues related to > kadischi istself, i think that we should also come up with a "workplan" to > maintain the Kadischi wki accordingly(Im not saying that its not actually > being done but ways could be found to improve it). This might be done during meeting times :) > Coming up with a Live Cd > ready to be downloaded by users is a good thing but we should not forget > that supporting user issues will come mainly from the wiki... and that > mainly will determine the ease of use / popularity of Kadischi in the > future.. > Is there someone who can link a "perfect" Fedora Live cd for download to the wiki ? By the word perfect I mean that the Live cd is based upon the principles of Fedora Project . -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From tony at tgds.net Fri Jan 20 10:49:43 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:49:43 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <43D01127.2070205@adelphia.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D01127.2070205@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137754183.14492.217.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 ? 17:22 -0500, J. Hartline a ?crit : > I sent an email to the list, it may not have reached it I'm not sure. > It showed how to install a custom kernel in the LiveCD.. did you not get it? Searching through the archives - your message from the 16th > I'm going to have to guess you may be running Kadischi/Anaconda in a VMware VM, perhaps? Nope running in a xterm "su -" the rpm build environnement is in /home/tony and the repo in /media/FC4 Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From tpfennig at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 12:25:57 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:25:57 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <2cbc44a0601200425k2ee5a52ay@mail.gmail.com> 2006/1/19, Greg DeKoenigsberg : > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, > which would be incredibly useful to lots and lots of people; > * A set of priorities about what to fix, and how; I am planning for months now a multimedia DVD basing on Kadischi. I thought I would do it with GNOME only and in english. I am now thinking I would rather like to include best of freedesktop solutions and to start with english. old homepage of project NINOG: http://www.netzpolitik.org:8080/wiki/index.php/NINOG NINOG will try to combine free licensed multimedia (movies, music), patent free and freedesktop solutions (KDE, GNOME). It should be attractive for users. It should give them some food for their multimedia applications instead of forcing them to download realmedia, mp3, mpeg and other patented-infested technologies. I think I will install an own wiki for it soon. Anybody out there who likes to join? Thilo -- http://www.pfennigsolutions.de From thierryjules at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 12:46:56 2006 From: thierryjules at gmail.com (Thierry Jules) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:46:56 +0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <2cbc44a0601200425k2ee5a52ay@mail.gmail.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <2cbc44a0601200425k2ee5a52ay@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The link http://www.netzpolitik.org:8080/wiki/index.php/NINOG leads to a german site isn't it?.. Could you just give a brief description of NINOG project coz i dont understand german... Sounds interesting... On 1/20/06, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > > 2006/1/19, Greg DeKoenigsberg : > > > * A set of "authoritative" Live CDs created by this project, > > which would be incredibly useful to lots and lots of people; > > * A set of priorities about what to fix, and how; > > I am planning for months now a multimedia DVD basing on Kadischi. I > thought I would do it with GNOME only and in english. I am now > thinking I would rather like to include best of freedesktop solutions > and to start with english. > > old homepage of project NINOG: > http://www.netzpolitik.org:8080/wiki/index.php/NINOG > > NINOG will try to combine free licensed multimedia (movies, music), > patent free and freedesktop solutions (KDE, GNOME). It should be > attractive for users. It should give them some food for their > multimedia applications instead of forcing them to download realmedia, > mp3, mpeg and other patented-infested technologies. > > I think I will install an own wiki for it soon. Anybody out there who > likes to join? > > > Thilo > -- > http://www.pfennigsolutions.de > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 15:56:42 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:56:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting Message-ID: Let's get together on IRC again! I propose the following time/date: Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 15:58:28 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:58:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601200758x3b6747f4ob704e7f6b3312d2b@mail.gmail.com> On 1/20/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > Let's get together on IRC again! > > I propose the following time/date: > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) Greg, will there be meeting minutes for me too catch up? :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gospo at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 16:09:38 2006 From: gospo at redhat.com (Andy Gospodarek) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:09:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060120160938.GH30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 10:56:42AM -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > +1 From katzj at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 16:22:32 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:22:32 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <1137774153.11347.8.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 22:54 +0100, tony wrote: > Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 ? 12:15 -0500, Jeremy Katz a ?crit : > > I spent a little bit of time a few months ago looking at Kadischi and > > sent Darko a bit of feedback (also based on some mail from him on what > > he saw the next steps as being). So, I figure it's time that I take > > that information and dump it for the wider audience now. > > > * The initrds currently being generated by Kadischi are from a one off > > script rather than utilizing mkinitrd. This means that you have to > > generate the initrd by hand afterwards instead of having the kernel post > > script do it for you. It also means that changes have to be tracked in > > the Kadischi version of the script. With the mkinitrd currently in > > rawhide, there is the ability to override commands from nash. Also, > > with the support for handling multiple initramfs's, a secondary > > initramfs can be created that just has the overriden commands. For > > ensuring that modules get included in the initrd, there is some support > > for overriding things that are detected via /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd -- > > we probably want to make it so that anaconda ensures > > that /etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd is generated correctly so the first time an > > initrd is created, it's "right" > > Now I understand... Jeez all those hours wasted looking at this from all > angles... > > Jeremy you got anything else you must tell us? =:-D Heh, that was what was on the top of my head. Just was traveling all week (my first batch of mail was the first time I was in the airport, this was from my flight back :-) > The language stuff I just nuke in my comps.xml, my live CD must be > French and English period. That doesn't ensure that the mo files from /usr/share/locale aren't installed > What about ssh keygen? How does one get around that? I am thinking along > the lines of someone wanting to ssh from work into a VDR based PVR, his > mom has to reboot the computer and it takes ages to generate keys... I think you actually really do want to generate the keys everytime. Otherwise, it's confusing when you move a live cd from one machine to another. Possibly having a way to keep various state items (including this) on something like a USB key or a partition makes sense, but you almost certainly don't want it on the CD. Jeremy From gdk at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 16:23:47 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:23:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601200758x3b6747f4ob704e7f6b3312d2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601200758x3b6747f4ob704e7f6b3312d2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It's be on IRC, so we'd just post the log to the list. Until it becomes a truly "official" project, I'm too lazy to write minutes. :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 1/20/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > > Let's get together on IRC again! > > > > I propose the following time/date: > > > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > > Greg, will there be meeting minutes for me too catch up? :) > > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 20 16:55:27 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:55:27 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137739029.14492.199.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D01127.2070205@adelphia.net> <1137739029.14492.199.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D115FF.3050707@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >Le jeudi 19 janvier 2006 ? 17:22 -0500, J. Hartline a ?crit : > > > >>I sent an email to the list, it may not have reached it I'm not sure. >>It showed how to install a custom kernel in the LiveCD.. did you not get it? >> >> > >No I didn't see that one. It would be printed and on my desk if I had >=:-D > >Tony > > See the archive. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2006-January/msg00074.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 20 17:00:02 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:00:02 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D11712.7020807@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Is there someone who can link a "perfect" Fedora Live cd for download > >to the wiki ? By the word perfect I mean that the Live cd is based >upon the principles of Fedora Project . > > >-- >http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > >-- >Fedora-livecd-list mailing list >Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > > I have offered to build one, all I need is a package list. From gospo at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 17:01:52 2006 From: gospo at redhat.com (Andy Gospodarek) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:01:52 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137774153.11347.8.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> <1137774153.11347.8.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <20060120170152.GI30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:22:32AM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > I think you actually really do want to generate the keys everytime. > Otherwise, it's confusing when you move a live cd from one machine to > another. Possibly having a way to keep various state items (including > this) on something like a USB key or a partition makes sense, but you > almost certainly don't want it on the CD. > > Jeremy Using a USB flash drive for storing configuration or other data would be an interesting. Maybe even allow support for a user's home directory to be on the flash drive? Of course the possibilities are pretty endless.... From cnegus at mwt.net Fri Jan 20 17:07:35 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:07:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137776855.2620.132.camel@einstein> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:56 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Let's get together on IRC again! > > I propose the following time/date: > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) +1 -- Chris Negus From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 20 17:08:06 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:08:06 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43D118F6.3040607@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >Let's get together on IRC again! > >I propose the following time/date: > >Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > >If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > >--g > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org >Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >Fedora-livecd-list mailing list >Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > > +1 From katzj at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 17:12:11 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:12:11 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <20060120170152.GI30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> <1137774153.11347.8.camel@bree.local.net> <20060120170152.GI30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1137777132.11347.19.camel@bree.local.net> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 12:01 -0500, Andy Gospodarek wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:22:32AM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > I think you actually really do want to generate the keys everytime. > > Otherwise, it's confusing when you move a live cd from one machine to > > another. Possibly having a way to keep various state items (including > > this) on something like a USB key or a partition makes sense, but you > > almost certainly don't want it on the CD. > > Using a USB flash drive for storing configuration or other data would be > an interesting. Maybe even allow support for a user's home directory to > be on the flash drive? Of course the possibilities are pretty > endless.... Yeah, I think it's a further out "make things even nicer" item as opposed to something that needs to be done right away Jeremy From gospo at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 17:16:33 2006 From: gospo at redhat.com (Andy Gospodarek) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:16:33 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Some braindumping In-Reply-To: <1137777132.11347.19.camel@bree.local.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <1137707665.14492.187.camel@hush.localdomain> <1137774153.11347.8.camel@bree.local.net> <20060120170152.GI30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> <1137777132.11347.19.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <20060120171633.GJ30553@gospo.rdu.redhat.com> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:12:11PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 12:01 -0500, Andy Gospodarek wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:22:32AM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > > I think you actually really do want to generate the keys everytime. > > > Otherwise, it's confusing when you move a live cd from one machine to > > > another. Possibly having a way to keep various state items (including > > > this) on something like a USB key or a partition makes sense, but you > > > almost certainly don't want it on the CD. > > > > Using a USB flash drive for storing configuration or other data would be > > an interesting. Maybe even allow support for a user's home directory to > > be on the flash drive? Of course the possibilities are pretty > > endless.... > > Yeah, I think it's a further out "make things even nicer" item as > opposed to something that needs to be done right away > > Jeremy > I agree 100% From tpfennig at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 17:20:27 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:20:27 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <2cbc44a0601200425k2ee5a52ay@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cbc44a0601200920i4354cc1ch@mail.gmail.com> 2006/1/20, Thierry Jules : Well I had a small summary there in english: # NINO will be a completely free (patents, licenses,...) Multimedia DVD # it shall show off GNOME and Creative Commons material. # it will be based on Fedora and use the future version of GNOME 2.14 # language will be german and maybe english. # work is still in progress. expects to be ready sometime this year The idea was to give the user a nice user experience. Live Cds mostly are short on space and do not give a lot. Gnome Live CD has some GNOME specs as PDF (wow, users love this). If the user tries to open multimedia from the internet because he does not get his food on CD he will experience that Linux can not play multimedia, because it does not play the mp3s and realaudio. This DVD should make a user "full". It also should make him interested in more. I like the creative commons movies. On A DVD there is also not unlimited space but we can do "something". I would suggest to base this DVD on the official Fedora-Live-CD and then make corrections for what we think should be added or deleted. On the applications side my vision is to show off some applications. This means that we always also should give a tutorial. We could also provide some videos made with the help from the other new exciting Fedora project "Istanbul" (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting). Certainbly people should be given tutorials for: GIMP, Inkscape. Can we also provide preinstalled plugins? Then why not providing Firefox with some nice extensions although this is not official. But this DVD should not be officlal - I'd love it to be expermental. OTOH I would like to put some nice music on it with free licenses. We could put this all ready made in a playlist. The user should feel welcomed and have some things to explore. Personally I always found LiveCds often boring (Knoppix etc.). You don't really experience the multimedia side of Linux, so people get the impression that Linux is about partitioning,etc. I also would suggest to have only one version of the DVD for each language, so that people do not have to select a language. Maybe we can let them choose the keyboard if they hit a special key at boot time? Question? Should I open a Wiki of my own or would this project fit into the fedora project wiki workspace? Greetings, Thilo -- http://vinci.wordpress.com From chitlesh at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 17:45:51 2006 From: chitlesh at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:45:51 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: <13dbfe4f0601200758x3b6747f4ob704e7f6b3312d2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601200945l1b68afe5g7c7cadea7f59ce51@mail.gmail.com> On 1/20/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > It's be on IRC, so we'd just post the log to the list. Until it becomes a > truly "official" project, I'm too lazy to write minutes. :) > Ill write meeting minutes when Ill be present. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From notting at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 18:00:47 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:00:47 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060120180047.GC5946@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Greg DeKoenigsberg (gdk at redhat.com) said: > > Let's get together on IRC again! > > I propose the following time/date: > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) -1 :) Bill From gdk at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 18:08:07 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:08:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <20060120180047.GC5946@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20060120180047.GC5946@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > > -1 :) Note: I did not say "a score of +6" for this very reason, smartypants. :) (Is there a better time for you, btw? Or are you just being a smartass?) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From notting at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 18:26:50 2006 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:26:50 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: <20060120180047.GC5946@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060120182650.GA1581@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Greg DeKoenigsberg (gdk at redhat.com) said: > Note: I did not say "a score of +6" for this very reason, smartypants. :) > > (Is there a better time for you, btw? Or are you just being a smartass?) I have indeterminate meetings all day next Wednesday, so not really. Outside of next week, I'd prefer later than 9AM, but it's not impossible. Bill From mkearey at redhat.com Fri Jan 20 22:15:52 2006 From: mkearey at redhat.com (Michael Kearey) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:15:52 +1000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1137795352.22608.26.camel@waterview.brisbane.redhat.com> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 10:56 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Let's get together on IRC again! > > I propose the following time/date: > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > Darn, Trusty World Clock tells me that will be Brisbane (Australia - Queensland) Thursday, January 26, 2006 at Midnight ... Unfortunately I cannot be there, as I have work 8AM next day. Look forward to the IRC logs :) Cheers Michael From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 21 03:42:31 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:42:31 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <1137738980.14492.197.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> <1137738980.14492.197.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D1ADA7.8030903@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >I have had success with different packages and different kernels as long >as they are FC kernels. Modified kernels run into the mkinitrd bug >mentioned earlier > >Tony > > I don't actually recall a mkinitrd bug discussed, I think what Jeremy was saying about the initrd, is that it is done using a one-off script, e.g. it *may* in certain instances not work. In any case, without any special configuration, I built a kernel today to see if I could replicate the problem, I could not. Here is all I've done, installed kadischi (CVS or RPM), patched anaconda, edited /etc/kadischi/build.conf to point to /tmp. Copied all Fedora/RPMS and Fedora/base files to /pub/Fedora/{RPMS,base} from the FC4 DVD. mkdir /pub/backup && mv /pub/Fedora/RPMS/kernel* /pub/backup mv /pub/kernel* /pub/Fedora/RPMS genhdlist --productpath Fedora /pub pkgorder /pub i386 Fedora > /pub/Fedora/pkgorder.txt genhdlist --withnumbers --fileorder /pub/Fedora/pkgorder.txt --hdlist /pub/Fedora/base/hdlist --productpath Fedora /pub kadischi --graphical /pub /tmp/custom00.iso I sit and watch, the kernel gets installed and we'll mount it via loopback to make sure nothing is playing tricks on us.. [root at localhost boot]# pwd /mnt/iso/boot [root at localhost boot]# ls -l vmlinuz* && ls -l initrd* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1542110 Jan 20 21:19 vmlinuz-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.root -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1006224 Jan 20 21:19 initrd-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.root.img [root at localhost boot]# All that is left to do is burn it. I don't know if custom CDs or user compiled kernels will be supported on this list if not, you are free to contact me outside of the list if you would like some suggestions. I'd really like to see some sort of config menus pushed out by Fedora Core 5 landing date. Simple things like, NFS, LDAP, Gateway/DHCP srever, Services, runlevel and Desktop Environment would be nice to have for the end user to choose. Say, you install Gnome and KDE, or KDE and Fluxbox. From tony at tgds.net Sat Jan 21 08:46:15 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:46:15 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] pkgorder LOOP In-Reply-To: <43D1ADA7.8030903@adelphia.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> <1137738980.14492.197.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D1ADA7.8030903@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137833175.14492.250.camel@hush.localdomain> Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 ? 21:42 -0600, J. Hartline a ?crit : > genhdlist --productpath Fedora /pub > pkgorder /pub i386 Fedora > /pub/Fedora/pkgorder.txt > genhdlist --withnumbers --fileorder /pub/Fedora/pkgorder.txt --hdlist > /pub/Fedora/base/hdlist --productpath Fedora /pub > kadischi --graphical /pub /tmp/custom00.iso Hi, You instructions require: export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/anaconda then I run /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/genhdlist --productpath Fedora /media/FC4 OK that works then /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/pkgorder /media/FC4 i386 Fedora \ > /media/FC4/Fedora/pkgorder.txt Which gives: --warning: LOOP: warning: removing initscripts-8.11.1-1.i386 "Requires: /sbin/nash" from tsort relations. warning: initscripts-8.11.1-1.i386 Requires: /sbin/nash warning: mkinitrd-4.2.15-1.i386 PreReq: dev warning: udev-058-1.0.FC4.1.i386 PreReq: hotplug warning: removing hotplug-2004_09_23-7.i386 "Requires: initscripts >= 8.11-1" from tsort relations. warning: hotplug-2004_09_23-7.i386 Requires: initscripts >= 8.11-1 warning: LOOP: warning: removing gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.10.0-1.i386 "Requires: gnome-python2 = 2.10.0-1" from tsort relations. warning: gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.10.0-1.i386 Requires: gnome-python2 = 2.10.0-1 warning: removing gnome-python2-2.10.0-1.i386 "Requires: gnome-python2-gnomevfs" from tsort relations. warning: gnome-python2-2.10.0-1.i386 Requires: gnome-python2-gnomevfs Looks like I borked my repo doing yum updates? Cheers Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 21 10:06:16 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:06:16 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] pkgorder LOOP In-Reply-To: <1137833175.14492.250.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> <1137738980.14492.197.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D1ADA7.8030903@adelphia.net> <1137833175.14492.250.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D20798.2090007@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >Which gives: > >--warning: LOOP: >warning: removing initscripts-8.11.1-1.i386 "Requires: /sbin/nash" from >tsort relations. >warning: initscripts-8.11.1-1.i386 >Requires: /sbin/nash >warning: mkinitrd-4.2.15-1.i386 PreReq: dev >warning: udev-058-1.0.FC4.1.i386 PreReq: hotplug >warning: removing hotplug-2004_09_23-7.i386 "Requires: initscripts >= >8.11-1" from tsort relations. >warning: hotplug-2004_09_23-7.i386 Requires: >initscripts >= 8.11-1 >warning: LOOP: >warning: removing gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.10.0-1.i386 "Requires: >gnome-python2 = 2.10.0-1" from tsort relations. >warning: gnome-python2-gnomevfs-2.10.0-1.i386 Requires: >gnome-python2 = 2.10.0-1 >warning: removing gnome-python2-2.10.0-1.i386 "Requires: >gnome-python2-gnomevfs" from tsort relations. >warning: gnome-python2-2.10.0-1.i386 Requires: >gnome-python2-gnomevfs > >Looks like I borked my repo doing yum updates? > >Cheers > >Tony > > No. Just let it run, it will finish. From tony at tgds.net Sat Jan 21 12:17:06 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:17:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] pkgorder LOOP In-Reply-To: <43D20798.2090007@adelphia.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <43D00006.30105@redhat.com> <1137708082.14492.194.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D011CC.2020604@adelphia.net> <1137738980.14492.197.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D1ADA7.8030903@adelphia.net> <1137833175.14492.250.camel@hush.localdomain> <43D20798.2090007@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1137845826.14492.256.camel@hush.localdomain> Le samedi 21 janvier 2006 ? 04:06 -0600, J. Hartline a ?crit : > No. Just let it run, it will finish. OK thanks. It built but I still have my kernel naming issue which does not concern this list - so I have no initrd in /boot... Thanks so much for helping with the other pkgorder thing. Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 21 20:04:10 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:04:10 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi wiki Message-ID: <43D293BA.3040103@adelphia.net> Hi. Could someone get this things into CVS, Elliot perhaps? There is a .spec for building Kadischi from CVS, and a patch also attached. If these are sufficient commit them, I'm sure folks wouldn't mind. ;-) On a Fedora Core 4 platform machine I have here, brp-python-bytecompile doesn't seem to run. However, on a FC5t2 platform brp-python-bytecompile does, so it builds with the %ghosts. If it fails to build on FC4, touch %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/shvar.pyc and %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/functions.pyc and remove all %ghosts from %files except %ghost %{_datadir}/%{name}/lib/*.pyc Perhaps it is just my build environment why brp-python-bytecompile was not being called. I don't think so however. Thanks. J. Hartline -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: kadischi.spec URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: newrpms-kadischi-userbuild.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 431 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 22 03:03:18 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:03:18 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi patch Message-ID: <43D2F5F6.2020104@adelphia.net> Hi. I looked more into livecd-mkinitrd.sh and I see that in functions.py, there are no checks for SMP kernels, which.. thats right get installed on SMP machines. Could someone verify that the patch attached fixes this behavior for them? This is relavent to the problems listed here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=169812 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: functions.py.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 1454 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 22 09:07:35 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:07:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi-nokernel.patch Message-ID: <43D34B57.9040804@adelphia.net> Hi. I sent a patch to the list earlier, but it is trash now. The attached patch is much better, and I'm sure it can be improved though it kills off the None kernel version. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: kadischi-nokernel.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 1335 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ringland at redhat.com Mon Jan 23 20:24:08 2006 From: ringland at redhat.com (Lucy Ringland) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:24:08 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D11712.7020807@adelphia.net> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> <43D11712.7020807@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> Hi, I'm working with a youth group that is very interested in using a LiveCD to show how Linux can be used...both in a computer lab setting and for kids to take home and try on their own systems. Do you suppose you could help me come up with a LiveCD based on a set of packages that would be appealing to kids? Thanks, Lucy in Docs J. Hartline wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > >> Is there someone who can link a "perfect" Fedora Live cd for download >> >> to the wiki ? By the word perfect I mean that the Live cd is based >> upon the principles of Fedora Project . >> >> >> -- >> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com >> >> -- >> Fedora-livecd-list mailing list >> Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list >> >> >> > I have offered to build one, all I need is a package list. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list From terry.turner at oit.gatech.edu Mon Jan 23 20:39:36 2006 From: terry.turner at oit.gatech.edu (Terry Turner) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:39:36 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> <43D11712.7020807@adelphia.net> <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1138048775.43d53f0800d3b@webmail.mail.gatech.edu> Quoting Lucy Ringland : > I'm working with a youth group that is very interested in using a LiveCD > to show how Linux can be used...both in a computer lab setting and for > kids to take home and try on their own systems. Do you suppose you could > help me come up with a LiveCD based on a set of packages that would be > appealing to kids? Depending on the ages of the kids in question, you might want to compare what you have in mind with what's offered by Edubuntu: http://www.edubuntu.org/tour.html (They might already have a LiveCD too -- though not Fedora :( Cheers, Terry From gdk at redhat.com Mon Jan 23 21:11:24 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:11:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> <43D11712.7020807@adelphia.net> <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> Message-ID: In general: I'd say that we would want to make sure that "official" Live CDs contain only packages from Core + Extras. Therefore, if someone can get some kid-friendly packages into Extras, this should be fine. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lucy Ringland wrote: > Hi, > I'm working with a youth group that is very interested in using a LiveCD > to show how Linux can be used...both in a computer lab setting and for > kids to take home and try on their own systems. Do you suppose you could > help me come up with a LiveCD based on a set of packages that would be > appealing to kids? > Thanks, > Lucy in Docs > > J. Hartline wrote: > > > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > >> Is there someone who can link a "perfect" Fedora Live cd for download > >> > >> to the wiki ? By the word perfect I mean that the Live cd is based > >> upon the principles of Fedora Project . > >> > >> > >> -- > >> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > >> Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > >> > >> > >> > > I have offered to build one, all I need is a package list. > > > > -- > > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 24 01:36:19 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:36:19 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Time to pick the weekly meeting back up? In-Reply-To: <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> References: <1137690904.2740.38.camel@bree.local.net> <43CFFD42.5040909@redhat.com> <13dbfe4f0601200247hee8755cn3192886cb332dc4f@mail.gmail.com> <43D11712.7020807@adelphia.net> <43D53B68.6020709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D58493.6030703@adelphia.net> For the lab, you'll want at least telnet & telnet server, gftp or ftp, ssh and sshd, an IRCd, MySQL*, Apache httpd, vsftpd, etc. Have them setup an internet based cluster, GFS, or FDS. As far as edutorial applications are concerned you might check the kdeedu package. For stock FC games, check gnome-games package and kdegames package. Lucy Ringland wrote: > Hi, > I'm working with a youth group that is very interested in using a > LiveCD to show how Linux can be used...both in a computer lab setting > and for kids to take home and try on their own systems. Do you suppose > you could help me come up with a LiveCD based on a set of packages > that would be appealing to kids? > Thanks, > Lucy in Docs > From thierryjules at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 03:51:55 2006 From: thierryjules at gmail.com (Thierry Jules) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:51:55 +0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi: installation problem Message-ID: I intended to upgrade to Fedora 4 in the weekend but was unable due to installation media being faulty. However I tried to install the prerequisites of kadischi manually but it ended up with error messages concerning unmet modules dependencies for anaconda.. Im trying to setup the modem of my portable to download Kadischi by CVS. But then, does the package available by CVS is only meant for FC4 or can I install it also on FC3? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We'll figure out an agenda when we see who's on board. --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > Let's get together on IRC again! > > I propose the following time/date: > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > From thierryjules at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 04:47:30 2006 From: thierryjules at gmail.com (Thierry Jules) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:47:30 +0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unfortunately, wont be able to join the meeting. will be still @ work. Hope there will be minutes of the meeting.. Thierry On 1/20/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > Let's get together on IRC again! > > I propose the following time/date: > > Next Wednesday, 14:00 GMT (9am Eastern US) > > If I get six +1 votes, we'll get together on IRC. :) > > --g > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org > Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 24 16:24:35 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:24:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi Development Pages (wiki) Message-ID: <43D654C3.2010407@adelphia.net> Hi. Here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development there is a 07conf. I think there are plans to modify firstboot however, is it possible we use some sort of interface with 07conf, like add in flexibility by using variables, and reading STDIN for user input or say have a set scale of choices. I don't think the majority of Kadischi users will know what to do with it! Perhaps it belongs in a contributions page more than the Development page? ;-) However temporary or permanent it may be it is hardly flexible I think. I'm doing some work with FC5t2 and Kadischi and I have managed to build an ISO. Currently rootpath mode still takes you to a partitioning menu and is not sufficient. What I think is that until we get more people interested in it, we should have some sort of makeshift configuration available. Maybe in a week I'll start working on putting a face to that script, though changing a few things within it. Thanks. J. Hartline From eric.white at ionpipe.com Tue Jan 24 17:59:56 2006 From: eric.white at ionpipe.com (Eric White) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:59:56 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] newbie question: FC3 and kadischi error Message-ID: <1138125596.8876.27.camel@casablanca> I've applied the kadischi python patches (anaconda, etc) successfully, or at least there were no errors reported: 1) I've got a current, rsync'ed FC3 repository. 2) I made a bunch of softlinks from my repository to a Kadischi working directory and then trimmed those softlinks down to the minimum set of packages I wanted, 3) I then did the genhdlist, pkgorder, genhdlist jig. 4) I modified my comps.xml to match the files I have in my kadischi working directory. (btw, I'm working on an embryonic XSL file that treats the comps.xml file as ground truth and creates the soft-links and generates a shell script to run the rest of the build.... I think this could be a good way of treating comps.xml as the origin of the distro contents. I hope to post this once it's not embarrassingly incomplete). 5) I have a minimal ks start (derived from a previous kickstart I had (for an installation CD) and the minimal ks file provided in the Kadischi installation, 6) I run Kadischi and get: [root at casablanca interim]# ../../tools/kadischi/kadischi -C -- kickstart=../build/iongate-ks.cfg `pwd` `pwd`/test.iso Starting kadischi... Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim exists. OK Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora exists. OK Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base exists. OK Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/RPMS exists. OK Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options Path /tmp/product/.buildstamp already exists, temporarly moving to /tmp/livecd-build_no10/.buildstamp *** running anaconda *** * Display mode = c * Method = nfs://home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim Probing for video card: VESA driver (generic) Probing for monitor type: TPVa995 Probing for mouse type: Skipped mouse probe. * anaconda floppy device fd0 * Running kickstart %pre script(s) * All kickstart %pre script(s) have been run * moving (1) to step networkdevicecheck * moving (1) to step readcomps Reading package information... * Using file:///home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base/comps.xml * moving (1) to step selectlangpackages * moving (1) to step checkdeps Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation... * moving (1) to step install * moving (1) to step enablefilesystems * moving (1) to step migratefilesystems * moving (1) to step setuptime * moving (1) to step preinstallconfig * No pcic controller detected * Unable to copy comps package * moving (1) to step installpackages * setting file_context_path to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts Preparing RPM transaction... In progress... Completed * WARNING: not all packages in hdlist had order tag Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 224, in ? run ("anaconda %s --rootpath=%s --method=%s --livecd" % (anaconda_args, sysdir, method), builddir) File "/home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 112, in run flc_log ('\n *** Fatal error: %s returned non zero (%s) exit code. Aborting execution.\n' % (command.rsplit() [0], rc))AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'rsplit' Any help would be greatly appreciated. From mb at manasystems.co.uk Tue Jan 24 20:37:56 2006 From: mb at manasystems.co.uk (Matt Bird) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:37:56 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi Development Pages (wiki) In-Reply-To: <43D654C3.2010407@adelphia.net> References: <43D654C3.2010407@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43D69024.7080007@manasystems.co.uk> Hi, That would be a script I hacked together to perform a task I needed. I uploaded it in the hope someone else would find it useful. If you wish to move/edit it, its on the wiki so as far as im concerned its open to all. Ive since added extra functionality to my personal copy (not yet uploaded) but its still not intuitive for a novice user (or most people who dont like perl!) I like the idea of extending it to take user inputted values and being more 'user friendly' so hopefully I can add to it in the next few days.... Used or not I prefer the idea of having additional config at build time. The way I see it most 'end users' of live CD's dont want to have to spend time/effort understanding configuration after the CD is run. Matt J. Hartline wrote: > Hi. > Here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development > there is a 07conf. I think there are plans to modify firstboot > however, is it possible > we use some sort of interface with 07conf, like add in flexibility by > using variables, and reading STDIN for user input > or say have a set scale of choices. > I don't think the majority of Kadischi users will know what to do with > it! > Perhaps it belongs in a contributions page more than the Development > page? ;-) > > However temporary or permanent it may be it is hardly flexible I think. > > I'm doing some work with FC5t2 and Kadischi and I have managed to > build an ISO. > Currently rootpath mode still takes you to a partitioning menu and is > not sufficient. > > What I think is that until we get more people interested in it, we > should have some sort of makeshift > configuration available. Maybe in a week I'll start working on putting > a face to that script, though changing > a few things within it. > > Thanks. > J. Hartline > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From eric.white at ionpipe.com Tue Jan 24 23:24:00 2006 From: eric.white at ionpipe.com (Eric White) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:24:00 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: newbie question: FC3 and kadischi error In-Reply-To: <1138125596.8876.27.camel@casablanca> References: <1138125596.8876.27.camel@casablanca> Message-ID: <1138145040.8876.34.camel@casablanca> so, digging a little further into the mailing list archive, I saw that my errors, below are an artifact of my FC3 host platform. Replacing the single occurrence of rsplit with split(), left me with in unresolved function (shutil), which became resolved when I used the PYTHONPATH envvar to explicitly point at the installed python library ... but now I'm getting less feedback: [... stuff deleted ...] * Using file:///home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base/comps.xml * moving (1) to step selectlangpackages * moving (1) to step checkdeps Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation... * moving (1) to step install * moving (1) to step enablefilesystems * moving (1) to step migratefilesystems * moving (1) to step setuptime * moving (1) to step preinstallconfig * No pcic controller detected * Unable to copy comps package * moving (1) to step installpackages * setting file_context_path to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts Preparing RPM transaction... In progress... * WARNING: not all packages in hdlist had order tag *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (11) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. My host is an FC3 system and I'm trying to build an FC3 LiveCD -- I can't move to FC4 at the moment On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:59 -0600, Eric White wrote: > I've applied the kadischi python patches (anaconda, etc) successfully, > or at least there were no errors reported: > > 1) I've got a current, rsync'ed FC3 repository. > 2) I made a bunch of softlinks from my repository to a Kadischi working > directory and then trimmed those softlinks down to the minimum set of > packages I wanted, > 3) I then did the genhdlist, pkgorder, genhdlist jig. > 4) I modified my comps.xml to match the files I have in my kadischi > working directory. (btw, I'm working on an embryonic XSL file that > treats the comps.xml file as ground truth and creates the soft-links and > generates a shell script to run the rest of the build.... I think this > could be a good way of treating comps.xml as the origin of the distro > contents. I hope to post this once it's not embarrassingly incomplete). > 5) I have a minimal ks start (derived from a previous kickstart I had > (for an installation CD) and the minimal ks file provided in the > Kadischi installation, > 6) I run Kadischi and get: > > [root at casablanca interim]# ../../tools/kadischi/kadischi -C -- > kickstart=../build/iongate-ks.cfg `pwd` `pwd`/test.iso > Starting kadischi... > Parsing command line arguments > Checking UID > Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. > Product path set to Fedora. > Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, > ftp and local repositories can be checked) > Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim exists. OK > Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora exists. OK > Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base exists. OK > Path /home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/RPMS exists. OK > Repository seems to be OK. > Checking required packages > Looking for config file > Loadnig config file options > Path /tmp/product/.buildstamp already exists, temporarly moving > to /tmp/livecd-build_no10/.buildstamp > > *** running anaconda *** > > * Display mode = c > * Method = nfs://home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim > Probing for video card: VESA driver (generic) > Probing for monitor type: TPVa995 > Probing for mouse type: Skipped mouse probe. > * anaconda floppy device fd0 > * Running kickstart %pre script(s) > * All kickstart %pre script(s) have been run > * moving (1) to step networkdevicecheck > * moving (1) to step readcomps > Reading package information... > * Using file:///home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base/comps.xml > * moving (1) to step selectlangpackages > * moving (1) to step checkdeps > Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation... > * moving (1) to step install > * moving (1) to step enablefilesystems > * moving (1) to step migratefilesystems > * moving (1) to step setuptime > * moving (1) to step preinstallconfig > * No pcic controller detected > * Unable to copy comps package > * moving (1) to step installpackages > * setting file_context_path > to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts > Preparing RPM transaction... > In progress... Completed > * WARNING: not all packages in hdlist had order tag > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 224, in ? > run ("anaconda %s --rootpath=%s --method=%s --livecd" % > (anaconda_args, sysdir, method), builddir) > File "/home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 112, in > run > flc_log ('\n *** Fatal error: %s returned non zero (%s) exit code. > Aborting execution.\n' % (command.rsplit() [0], rc))AttributeError: > 'str' object has no attribute 'rsplit' > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Eric White IonPipe, Inc. 512-293-7190 From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 02:04:57 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:04:57 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: newbie question: FC3 and kadischi error In-Reply-To: <1138145040.8876.34.camel@casablanca> References: <1138125596.8876.27.camel@casablanca> <1138145040.8876.34.camel@casablanca> Message-ID: <43D6DCC9.3060703@adelphia.net> Eric White wrote: >so, digging a little further into the mailing list archive, I saw that >my errors, below are an artifact of my FC3 host platform. Replacing the >single occurrence of rsplit with split(), left me with in unresolved >function (shutil), which became resolved when I used the PYTHONPATH >envvar to explicitly point at the installed python library ... but now >I'm getting less feedback: > >[... stuff deleted ...] > >* Using file:///home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base/comps.xml >* moving (1) to step selectlangpackages >* moving (1) to step checkdeps >Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation... >* moving (1) to step install >* moving (1) to step enablefilesystems >* moving (1) to step migratefilesystems >* moving (1) to step setuptime >* moving (1) to step preinstallconfig >* No pcic controller detected >* Unable to copy comps package >* moving (1) to step installpackages >* setting file_context_path >to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts >Preparing RPM transaction... >In progress... >* WARNING: not all packages in hdlist had order tag > > *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (11) exit code. Aborting >execution. > >Cleaning up temporary files... >Done. > > >My host is an FC3 system and I'm trying to build an FC3 LiveCD -- I >can't move to FC4 at the moment > > > Fedora Core 3 now exists in Legacy. You might try the resources available at http://fedoralegacy.org and some archives available there. From eric.white at ionpipe.com Wed Jan 25 02:18:36 2006 From: eric.white at ionpipe.com (Eric White) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:18:36 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: newbie question: FC3 and kadischi error In-Reply-To: <43D6DCC9.3060703@adelphia.net> References: <1138125596.8876.27.camel@casablanca> <1138145040.8876.34.camel@casablanca> <43D6DCC9.3060703@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1138155516.8876.39.camel@casablanca> Some quick hacking (passing -v params to python invocations), I was able to determine that I had *not* done the genhdlist->pkgorder->genhdlist phase correctly, which was causing an anaconda dependency check routine to choke and die. Once done, things have progressed as advertised. Hence, the only change I've had to make is to replace the single occurrence of rstri() with strip() and my FC3 Kadischi build on my FC3 host appears to be relatively happy On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 20:04 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Eric White wrote: > > >so, digging a little further into the mailing list archive, I saw that > >my errors, below are an artifact of my FC3 host platform. Replacing the > >single occurrence of rsplit with split(), left me with in unresolved > >function (shutil), which became resolved when I used the PYTHONPATH > >envvar to explicitly point at the installed python library ... but now > >I'm getting less feedback: > > > >[... stuff deleted ...] > > > >* Using file:///home/ewhite/src/rnsa/interim/Fedora/base/comps.xml > >* moving (1) to step selectlangpackages > >* moving (1) to step checkdeps > >Checking dependencies in packages selected for installation... > >* moving (1) to step install > >* moving (1) to step enablefilesystems > >* moving (1) to step migratefilesystems > >* moving (1) to step setuptime > >* moving (1) to step preinstallconfig > >* No pcic controller detected > >* Unable to copy comps package > >* moving (1) to step installpackages > >* setting file_context_path > >to /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts > >Preparing RPM transaction... > >In progress... > >* WARNING: not all packages in hdlist had order tag > > > > *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (11) exit code. Aborting > >execution. > > > >Cleaning up temporary files... > >Done. > > > > > >My host is an FC3 system and I'm trying to build an FC3 LiveCD -- I > >can't move to FC4 at the moment > > > > > > > Fedora Core 3 now exists in Legacy. > You might try the resources available at http://fedoralegacy.org and > some archives available there. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- Eric White IonPipe, Inc. 512-293-7190 From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 07:07:13 2006 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:07:13 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: <20060124170018.80EDE73711@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060124170018.80EDE73711@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello, So did you build a fully working FC5t2 liveCD? I really wish to do that too, just have to upgrade tonight from FC4... and play around with create repo.. Can I contribute to FC5 Live cd testing? We can talk more @freenode.. > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:24:35 -0600 > From: "J. Hartline" > I'm doing some work with FC5t2 and Kadischi and I have managed to build > an ISO. what means rootpath mode? > Currently rootpath mode still takes you to a partitioning menu and is > not sufficient. Cheers, Filip From gdk at redhat.com Wed Jan 25 14:52:11 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:52:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" Message-ID: Looks like those six +1s I received were "sure, go ahead and have your meeting... but maybe I won't show up for it." :) Transcript follows: [09:03] So, who have we got, then? [09:04] It's 14:00 GMT by my watch. Is anyone paying attention? :) [09:06] * gregdek_home taps the microphone. [09:06] Is this thing on? [09:06] bueller? bueller? [09:06] I just flew in from Pittsburgh, and boy, are my arms tired! [09:06] * thl would interpret this as "no" [09:07] All right. We've got me, notting and thl. [09:07] If this turns into "an informative chat with Bill Nottingham, maintainer of stateless," then that's how it'll be. [09:08] So, Bill. [09:08] What's ahead for Stateless Linux, and how will it affect the Live CD roadmap? [09:09] what's ahead is 'making stateless go'. part of this is to be able to run with the main filesystem read-only [09:09] this obviously dovetails with livecd [09:09] so, the idea is to pull out all the bits from livecd (and others) that basically do enablement for read-only operation [09:09] and integrate them into the base OS [09:10] kadischi's system modifications should be along the lines of setting up users, changing servers, changing apps [09:10] not 'making the system boot r/o without falling over' [09:10] Which is basically where it's at now, yes? [09:11] that's a chunk of it, yes [09:11] So what's the rough timeframe for these changes to hit stateless? [09:11] so, it's moving the basic readonly stuff to rc.sysinit [09:11] moving some things to mkinitrd [09:11] timeframe wise, i'd like to get this done for FC5 [09:12] haven't narrowed it down more than that :) [09:12] How strong a "like" is that? Is that, "I'm highly confident," or, "I'd like this much in the same way I'd like world peace and my own pony?" [09:13] "i intend to do it, i just haven't picked a particular week" [09:14] OK. When these changes hit stateless, does kadischi work for FC5 by stripping a bunch of stuff out? [09:14] "if it doesn't, i'll send patches?" [09:15] And also, do you know if the anaconda patches for kadischi have made it upstream yet? [09:15] nope [09:15] Do you know if Jeremy or anyone is looking at them? [09:16] jeremy looked at them once afaik -- he didn't like them to much iirc... [09:17] Yes, that's my recollection as well. [09:18] Well. [09:18] My next question: [09:18] IS ANYONE BESIDES THL AND NOTTING ACTUALLY HERE? [09:19] * thl actually is working and also only partly here [09:19] Sigh. [09:20] All right. I guess those +1s on the list were pretty weak +1s. [09:21] I'd hoped to find some folks to build some images that we could distribute from the torrent... but oh well. [09:21] I think this "meeting" is done. Thanks, guys. Sorry to get you up early, notting. :) [09:22] gregdek_home: actually sitting in another meeting :) [09:22] Yay. :) [09:23] All right. I'll send out "notes," heh. The immediate action items I derive from this: * Someone needs to make sure that katzj has the kadischi patches for anaconda, and is either incorporating them upstream or telling someone why he won't. * Someone needs to propose a way of getting some Real Fedora Live CDs out there for download, so that people can use them and say "wow, they're great!" or "wow, they suck in these 60 ways!" * Someone needs to call a meeting that people will show up to. :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 15:07:58 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:07:58 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: References: <20060124170018.80EDE73711@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D7944E.3080006@adelphia.net> Filip Tsachev wrote: >Hello, > >So did you build a fully working FC5t2 liveCD? I really wish to do >that too, just have to upgrade tonight from FC4... and play around >with create repo.. Can I contribute to FC5 Live cd testing? We can >talk more @freenode.. > > > Yeah, we should be pushing ahead to getting Kadischi usable in FC5. >what means rootpath mode? > > > Rootpath mode is a method Anaconda uses which is to install to a fake root. Jeremy could tell you more about it, probably anything you need to know. From s.clement at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 25 15:08:42 2006 From: s.clement at sympatico.ca (Stephen Clement) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:08:42 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43D7947A.3080302@sympatico.ca> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Looks like those six +1s I received were "sure, go ahead and have your > meeting... but maybe I won't show up for it." :) > > -- snip -- > * Someone needs to call a meeting that people will show up to. :) > > --g > I think having it in the evening EST would probably get more people. 9 AM EST doesn't work very well for many people; they're all at work. The +1's were probably more "yes, we need a meeting, no, the timing sucks." except people forgot to voice the last part. Thanks, Stephen Clement From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 15:10:44 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:10:44 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >* Someone needs to propose a way of getting some Real Fedora Live CDs out >there for download, so that people can use them and say "wow, they're >great!" or "wow, they suck in these 60 ways!" > > > >--g > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org >Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > I can build a generic LiveCD, and LiveDVD if everyone agrees. Just send a package list for both. From tony at tgds.net Wed Jan 25 15:23:11 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:23:11 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <43D7947A.3080302@sympatico.ca> References: <43D7947A.3080302@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <1138202591.23380.92.camel@hush.localdomain> Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 ? 10:08 -0500, Stephen Clement a ?crit : > I think having it in the evening EST would probably get more people. 9 > AM EST doesn't work very well for many people; they're all at work. The > +1's were probably more "yes, we need a meeting, no, the timing sucks." > except people forgot to voice the last part. You mean less Europeans or more people =;-p Tony -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 25 15:38:24 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:38:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601250738w70d0a503y9870b670ffbc3e91@mail.gmail.com> > I can build a generic LiveCD, and LiveDVD if everyone agrees. > Just send a package list for both. Yes. can you build one ? my objective is to get a livecd that has lots of hardware support. wireless, bluetooth,sound (ogg of course), init5 , openoffice, Meanwhile that we are enhancing Kadischi's code, other users can download a Fedora Live cd and see who Kadischi is improving. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From cnegus at mwt.net Wed Jan 25 15:58:35 2006 From: cnegus at mwt.net (Chris Negus) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:58:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1138204715.20012.99.camel@einstein> On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 09:52 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Looks like those six +1s I received were "sure, go ahead and have your > meeting... but maybe I won't show up for it." :) I apologize (as one of the +1s). I messed up the time. (I need to reset my mind to GMT.) -- Chris Negus From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 16:32:37 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:32:37 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <1138202591.23380.92.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <43D7947A.3080302@sympatico.ca> <1138202591.23380.92.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D7A825.40406@adelphia.net> tony wrote: >You mean less Europeans or more people =;-p > >Tony > > Hello. This has nothing to do with the conversation at hand though I think I found the resolv.conf bug you filed tony, I am wondering if you can repost to Bug #171276 filed here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=171276 and request it be moved to component Kadischi in Fedora Extras. It would be the correct place for it, as Fedora Core doesn't have a LiveCD yet. Thanks! J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 16:36:12 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:36:12 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601250738w70d0a503y9870b670ffbc3e91@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601250738w70d0a503y9870b670ffbc3e91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D7A8FC.7050602@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Yes. can you build one ? my objective is to get a livecd that has lots >of hardware support. wireless, bluetooth,sound (ogg of course), init5 >, openoffice, > >Meanwhile that we are enhancing Kadischi's code, other users can >download a Fedora Live cd and see who Kadischi is improving. > > What the kernel supports is the support included I'm sure. I really do not think anything third party, even if it is OSS would be in a Fedora Core LiveCD or DVD. We'll see I suppose. I don't know why though we'd build a FC4 CD even with all updated compoinents if FC5 is on the horizon. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 16:42:21 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:42:21 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Upcoming meeting time Message-ID: <43D7AA6D.2010907@adelphia.net> Hi. I propose we have a meeting in the time frame suggested earlier but a few hours before that at 5PM EST, 4PM CST, 2PM PST, 20:00 GMT. This is late for European visitors and contributors, but not too late I don't think. Is this a bad time? Lets try it? J. Hartline From s.clement at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 25 16:42:46 2006 From: s.clement at sympatico.ca (Stephen Clement) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:42:46 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <1138202591.23380.92.camel@hush.localdomain> References: <43D7947A.3080302@sympatico.ca> <1138202591.23380.92.camel@hush.localdomain> Message-ID: <43D7AA86.1080009@sympatico.ca> tony wrote: > Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 ? 10:08 -0500, Stephen Clement a ?crit : > > >> I think having it in the evening EST would probably get more people. 9 >> AM EST doesn't work very well for many people; they're all at work. The >> +1's were probably more "yes, we need a meeting, no, the timing sucks." >> except people forgot to voice the last part. >> > > You mean less Europeans or more people =;-p > Uh, more people and hopefully just as many Europeans. Considering there were only 3 people there in the first place, there's not much to lose by trying a later meeting. And by evening, I mean probably about 8 PM EST. Thanks, Stephen Clement From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 25 16:44:38 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:44:38 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Upcoming meeting time In-Reply-To: <43D7AA6D.2010907@adelphia.net> References: <43D7AA6D.2010907@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601250844t1944f9f5yea867743d106e905@mail.gmail.com> 20:00 GMT. is perfect for me (Europe) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From gdk at redhat.com Wed Jan 25 17:44:21 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:44:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, J. Hartline wrote: > I can build a generic LiveCD, and LiveDVD if everyone agrees. > Just send a package list for both. Ah, see, there's the rub -- the trial-and-error for identifying that package list, and optimizing it so it *just barely fits* on one CD, is actually the hard work here. Some options to discuss for CD: * GNOME productivity desktop. GNOME, OOo, Firefox, plus whatever. * KDE productivity desktop. KDE, OOo, Firefox, plus whatever. * Rescue toolkit. * Instant server. For DVD, can you basically do an everything install of Core... or is that insane? :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Wed Jan 25 19:24:47 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:24:47 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43D7D07F.9050106@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Ah, see, there's the rub -- the trial-and-error for identifying that > >package list, and optimizing it so it *just barely fits* on one CD, is >actually the hard work here. > >Some options to discuss for CD: > > * GNOME productivity desktop. GNOME, OOo, Firefox, plus whatever. > * KDE productivity desktop. KDE, OOo, Firefox, plus whatever. > * Rescue toolkit. > * Instant server. > >For DVD, can you basically do an everything install of Core... or is that >insane? :) > >--g > > > No, that isn't insane. Also, if that was the hard part, I already know that if Anaconda's size estimation is correct 1.6GB will fit in 700MB compressed using Kadischi. So.. 1.6GB no more. Is that the answer you needed? ;-) OO.org would only be comprehensible without *any* language support, for CD media. From menno at slaats.net Wed Jan 25 19:45:58 2006 From: menno at slaats.net (Menno Slaats) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:45:58 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Upcoming meeting time In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601250844t1944f9f5yea867743d106e905@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D7AA6D.2010907@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601250844t1944f9f5yea867743d106e905@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 20:00 GMT is for me perfect too! (Europe) Menno On 1/25/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > 20:00 GMT. > is perfect for me (Europe) > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hartline wrote: > OO.org would only be comprehensible without *any* language support, for > CD media. Is there any chance of targetting certain languages, I wonder? --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 25 22:41:37 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:41:37 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> <43D7D07F.9050106@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601251441v5a9d0259ndb1d0ee1bc663421@mail.gmail.com> > Is there any chance of targetting certain languages, I wonder? > We'll choose English for the generic one. If there's a demand we can create one. btw can't we create a live cd with multiple languages? or isn't part of Kde? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From spam at tachegroup.com Wed Jan 25 23:24:25 2006 From: spam at tachegroup.com (TGS) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:24:25 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <43D7D07F.9050106@adelphia.net> References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> <43D7D07F.9050106@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <5080F7F2-8DF4-486F-AC3D-1B1C65BBC372@tachegroup.com> So what were you looking for people to do in the build/release process? On Jan 25, 2006, at 2:24 PM, J. Hartline wrote: > Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > >> Ah, see, there's the rub -- the trial-and-error for identifying that >> >> package list, and optimizing it so it *just barely fits* on one >> CD, is >> actually the hard work here. >> >> Some options to discuss for CD: >> >> * GNOME productivity desktop. GNOME, OOo, Firefox, plus whatever. >> * KDE productivity desktop. KDE, OOo, Firefox, plus whatever. >> * Rescue toolkit. >> * Instant server. >> >> For DVD, can you basically do an everything install of Core... or >> is that insane? :) >> >> --g >> >> > No, that isn't insane. > Also, if that was the hard part, I already know that if Anaconda's > size estimation is correct > 1.6GB will fit in 700MB compressed using Kadischi. > > So.. 1.6GB no more. Is that the answer you needed? ;-) > OO.org would only be comprehensible without *any* language support, > for CD media. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 26 06:51:58 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:51:58 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> <43D7D07F.9050106@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43D8718E.2020904@adelphia.net> Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: >>OO.org would only be comprehensible without *any* language support, for >>CD media. >> >> > >Is there any chance of targetting certain languages, I wonder? > >--g > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org >Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > Absolutely. I would imagine, now I am no language expert.. but I would imagine, English, Italian, Japanese, Spanish and German would be the most popular. I don't know though, just guessing. J. Hartline From tony at tgds.net Thu Jan 26 07:26:09 2006 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:26:09 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] "Notes" from today's "meeting" In-Reply-To: <43D8718E.2020904@adelphia.net> References: <43D794F4.20602@adelphia.net> <43D7D07F.9050106@adelphia.net> <43D8718E.2020904@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1138260369.23380.133.camel@hush.localdomain> Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 ? 00:51 -0600, J. Hartline a ?crit : > Absolutely. > I would imagine, now I am no language expert.. That is for sure > but I would imagine, English, Italian, Japanese, Spanish and German > would be the most popular. > I don't know though, just guessing. Up north you have a place called Canada - your list is missing French (what a dirty word...) Tony PS I saw your other messages about my problems but I have to fix the kernel naming issue before doing another ISO. -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx, h?bergement: www.3continents.com - international film festival | www.chez-reine.com - g?te en Bretagne | www.haut-planty.com - Muscadet wine | www.loire-estuaire.org - GIP Loire Estuaire From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 08:16:34 2006 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:16:34 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 In-Reply-To: <20060125164355.DC0F87381A@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060125164355.DC0F87381A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Why Wednesday? I can agree for 20:00GMT although this is 22:00 here (Bulgaria) :D Which is the time I'm on a party out... So let me get it strait, is kadischi working (current CVS) with the new create repo method under FC5t2 host? Or should I go for a virtual machine with FC4 on it to build? Cheers, Filip From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 26 10:18:24 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:18:24 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 In-Reply-To: References: <20060125164355.DC0F87381A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <43D8A1F0.5070901@adelphia.net> Filip Tsachev wrote: >Why Wednesday? I can agree for 20:00GMT although this is 22:00 here >(Bulgaria) :D Which is the time I'm on a party out... > >So let me get it strait, is kadischi working (current CVS) with the >new create repo method under FC5t2 host? Or should I go for a virtual >machine with FC4 on it to build? > >Cheers, >Filip > > It isn't pretty. I am just doing my own fiddling around here with FC5t2, soon to be Test 3. If you are going to build anything you'll probably want to use Fedora Core 4 repositories on Fedora Core 4. From alexm at asic.udl.es Thu Jan 26 10:26:20 2006 From: alexm at asic.udl.es (Alex Magaz) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:26:20 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] strip down languages from /usr/share/locale Message-ID: <200601261126.20763.alexm@asic.udl.es> Hi, I've been adapting a script from the debian package localepurge to work as post install script. This script purges all languages that doesn't appear in the locale.nopurge file. It also gives the option to purge man pages uncommenting MANDELETE option. It works simply copying the three files into the post_install_scripts directory (rember to give execution permissions to the script :). Then customize locale.nopurge to your needs. I've tried it and seems to work well, but have not made al lot of testing and may be there's still some issue. The source package can be downloaded from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/localepurge/localepurge_0.4.1.tar.gz I have some questions about disk saving. 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However, While installing the rpm package of anaconda(rpm -ivh anaconda-10.1.0.2-1.i386.rpm), i understand that booty and libbog1.so have to be installed prior to anaconda... Ive managed to find booty. Can anyone tell me where I could eventually get libbog1.so? Thnx! Thierry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katzj at redhat.com Thu Jan 26 17:06:30 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:06:30 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] strip down languages from /usr/share/locale In-Reply-To: <200601261126.20763.alexm@asic.udl.es> References: <200601261126.20763.alexm@asic.udl.es> Message-ID: <1138295190.18910.5.camel@bree.local.net> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 11:26 +0100, Alex Magaz wrote: > I've been adapting a script from the debian package localepurge to work as > post install script. This script purges all languages that doesn't appear in > the locale.nopurge file. It also gives the option to purge man pages > uncommenting MANDELETE option. Per my mail last week, I think it's far smarter to look at enabling a (fairly hidden) way of having anaconda set the %__install_langs macro for rpm so that only the locales you want get installed. There's also already a (similarly hidden) option to avoid installing files that are marked as %doc > I have some questions about disk saving. What about the files > under /usr/lib/locale? Are they necessary? In my system it takes up around > 100M of disk space. And /usr/share/doc? Apart from HTML, can the other > directories be safely deleted? These are various things required by glibc to support a locale. I'm pretty sure they're tagged with the right lang tag, though, so again, if the route of setting %__install_langs is taken, then the space usage should be reduced to what is actually required Jeremy From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 26 17:44:41 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:44:41 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi patch for rpmbuild it as user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601260944x2b57f7ccr3e691cfce9a744c7@mail.gmail.com> On 1/26/06, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > Hello to ya.. .since the patch i submitted to bugzilla didnt seem to > get recognized at all yet i thought it wouldnt hurt to send an email > to this list. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177649 Hello, Rudolf, There is no maintainer for the moment. But Ill do it during the weekend when Ill be at my gf's place. In my hostel, cvs access is blocked. don't worry. ill keep you inform about its progress Im asking everyone who wants their patches be in the cvs download, please file it in my schedule wiki page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah/Schedule Please do kindly you write brief about what your patch does . It will be helpful for the documentation as well as for me to write the weekly report. Don't care much about my Schedule wiki page's layout. Write something. Ill understand :) deadline will be saturday night. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From alexm at asic.udl.es Thu Jan 26 17:59:06 2006 From: alexm at asic.udl.es (Alex Magaz) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:59:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] strip down languages from /usr/share/locale In-Reply-To: <1138295190.18910.5.camel@bree.local.net> References: <200601261126.20763.alexm@asic.udl.es> <1138295190.18910.5.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <200601261859.06394.alexm@asic.udl.es> El Jueves, 26 de Enero de 2006 6:06 PM, Jeremy Katz escribi?: > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 11:26 +0100, Alex Magaz wrote: > > I've been adapting a script from the debian package localepurge to work > > as post install script. This script purges all languages that doesn't > > appear in the locale.nopurge file. It also gives the option to purge man > > pages uncommenting MANDELETE option. > > Per my mail last week, I think it's far smarter to look at enabling a > (fairly hidden) way of having anaconda set the %__install_langs macro > for rpm so that only the locales you want get installed. There's also > already a (similarly hidden) option to avoid installing files that are > marked as %doc Thanks, I wasn't aware of this method :p Does it appears somewhere in the kadischi documentation? If not I think it would be a good idea to do so (It's difficult put some things in 700MB whithout this). To be sure, if I'm not wrong, to enable %_install_langs macro some lines should be uncommented from the file upgrade.py. And the %doc macro is enabled adding --excludedocs option to the %package section in the ks file. Is it this way? > > I have some questions about disk saving. What about the files > > under /usr/lib/locale? Are they necessary? In my system it takes up > > around 100M of disk space. And /usr/share/doc? Apart from HTML, can the > > other directories be safely deleted? > > These are various things required by glibc to support a locale. I'm > pretty sure they're tagged with the right lang tag, though, so again, if > the route of setting %__install_langs is taken, then the space usage > should be reduced to what is actually required > > Jeremy > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Jan 26 18:43:18 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:43:18 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] anaconda prerequsite libbog1.so In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43D91846.9070904@adelphia.net> Thierry Jules wrote: > Hi, > Im tryiing to installing manually the prerequisites of Kadaschi on FC3. > Can anyone tell me where I could eventually get libbog1.so? > > Thnx! > > Thierry There is no library by that name. The closest matches are libogg and libbogl. From eric.white at ionpipe.com Thu Jan 26 21:22:14 2006 From: eric.white at ionpipe.com (Eric White) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:22:14 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] some FC3 help? Message-ID: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> I've seen that a couple of folks have gotten Kadischi to build with FC3 and I thought I'd gotten the kinks worked out, but I continue to see this error message at the end of the anaconda run: making initrd image /tmp/livecd-build_no26/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. *** Fatal error: /home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Anaconda can't find a kernel, even though there's a kernel-2.6.9-1.667.i686.rpm in the repository. In fact there are several flavors (i586, smp, etc.) of that kernel -- is that the problem? Anaconda's db search is producing more than one result and reverting back to the initialized value ("None")? I thought it was b/c I hadn't built my customized repository correct so, instead, pointed Kadischi at my rsync'ed FC3 directory, and used the minimal-livecd ks script provided in the Kadischi distro, producing the same results. I applied the Kadischi python patched to the anaconda-10.1.0.2-1 installation that's current in the FC3 repository, and the patch process didn't complain; i.e., I'm running on an FC3 system, trying to produce an FC3 Kadischi LiveCD. Any help is greatly appreciated. Eric From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 26 22:11:23 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:11:23 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Schedule Topics Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601261411p5863686fxb8b595ee2294ddd7@mail.gmail.com> hello everyone, We are looking forward for a meeting next week. Ive designed the TODO List in accordance to the priority of issues, just to get things started. I don't know much about the following issues, which were listed during the presence of the presence maintainer. Im calling if anyone wants to grab one of the following feel free. inform us about your choice ( in the wiki / on the maliling list). and if you do have other issues that you want to add. Do go on. Add them. These were the last issues. (were these completed?) * !! examine patches to anaconda. Some steps that would anaconda normally run are skipped in --livecd mode, and it isn`t checked is it 100% safe to do * tweak firstboot so we could use it for system configuration * fix the problem with HWADDRs in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* * fix the problem with fonts.dir (during system startup) * provide a way to strip down languages (from /usr/share/local) and docs (/usr/share/doc) * implement SquashFS (right now it works with zisofs) * modify syslog and other things that log to keep shorter logs * improve build system (work around .am and .ac files, build RPMs) * implement backup/restore function for config files and used data (use linux4all b/r as a starting point) * make SELinux work on live system * make kadischi forward command line options to anaconda (so it would be possible to pass options to anaconda) * modify anaconda to calculate expected size of iso image during package selection (when run in --livecd mode) * work around config file (make anaconda ignore %livecd section, make kadischi able to read that section) * create (and integrate) fancy little gui Ive added my responsibilities. You can do the same :) Chitlesh GOORAH -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From ivazquez at ivazquez.net Thu Jan 26 22:49:22 2006 From: ivazquez at ivazquez.net (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] some FC3 help? In-Reply-To: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> References: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> Message-ID: <1138315762.11698.2.camel@ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 22:22 +0100, Eric White wrote: > I've seen that a couple of folks have gotten Kadischi to build with FC3 > and I thought I'd gotten the kinks worked out, but I continue to see > this error message at the end of the anaconda run: > > making initrd image > /tmp/livecd-build_no26/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. > > *** Fatal error: /home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh > returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=169812 -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams http://fedora.ivazquez.net/ gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 38028b72 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 27 02:08:23 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:08:23 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] some FC3 help? In-Reply-To: <1138315762.11698.2.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> <1138315762.11698.2.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <43D98097.1080805@adelphia.net> >Eric White wrote: > > >>I've seen that a couple of folks have gotten Kadischi to build with FC3 >>and I thought I'd gotten the kinks worked out, but I continue to see >>this error message at the end of the anaconda run: >> >>making initrd image >>/tmp/livecd-build_no26/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. >> >> *** Fatal error: /home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh >>returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. >> >> > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=169812 > > This patch seems to fix it on the machines here. Along with the above URL, see this also: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178623 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It also gives the option to purge man > > > pages uncommenting MANDELETE option. > > > > Per my mail last week, I think it's far smarter to look at enabling a > > (fairly hidden) way of having anaconda set the %__install_langs macro > > for rpm so that only the locales you want get installed. There's also > > already a (similarly hidden) option to avoid installing files that are > > marked as %doc > > Thanks, I wasn't aware of this method :p > Does it appears somewhere in the kadischi documentation? If not I think it > would be a good idea to do so (It's difficult put some things in 700MB > whithout this). It's not really worth documenting until someone does the work to get it supported... > To be sure, if I'm not wrong, to enable %_install_langs macro some lines > should be uncommented from the file upgrade.py. And the %doc macro is enabled > adding --excludedocs option to the %package section in the ks file. Is it > this way? Not upgrade.py, somewhere more generic (upgrade.py only gets used on upgrades). And --excludedocs for %packages will work, although it's probably advantageous to look into other ways of passing that as I expect a lot of live CDs to be created without using kickstart Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Fri Jan 27 02:46:46 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:46:46 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Schedule Topics In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601261411p5863686fxb8b595ee2294ddd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601261411p5863686fxb8b595ee2294ddd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1138330006.32225.30.camel@bree.local.net> Not claiming anything, but trying to provide some useful direction. Unfortunately, time is one thing I don't really have a surplus of at the moment :-/ On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 23:11 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > * !! examine patches to anaconda. Some steps that would anaconda > normally run are skipped in --livecd mode, and it isn`t checked is it > 100% safe to do Unless there's a valid reason not to use --rootpath, it's probably better to use it. This will require a little bit of work to get the step skipping correct for the changes in anaconda in FC5 > * tweak firstboot so we could use it for system configuration I'm still not convinced that running firstboot is even really required... > * fix the problem with HWADDRs in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* One thought would be to actually try to move towards using NetworkManager -- this is the eventual direction we want to move for the distro in general, and live CDs could really start going in the right direction > * fix the problem with fonts.dir (during system startup) > * provide a way to strip down languages (from /usr/share/local) and > docs (/usr/share/doc) See my mails from earlier today for more on this > * implement SquashFS (right now it works with zisofs) > * modify syslog and other things that log to keep shorter logs > * improve build system (work around .am and .ac files, build RPMs) > * implement backup/restore function for config files and used data > (use linux4all b/r as a starting point) > * make SELinux work on live system This will require implementing xattrs for squashfs -- I know the maintainer has thought about it, but I don't think he's really started working on it. > * make kadischi forward command line options to anaconda (so it would > be possible to pass options to anaconda) > * modify anaconda to calculate expected size of iso image during > package selection (when run in --livecd mode) > * work around config file (make anaconda ignore %livecd section, make > kadischi able to read that section) > * create (and integrate) fancy little gui Jeremy From eric.white at ionpipe.com Fri Jan 27 04:17:06 2006 From: eric.white at ionpipe.com (Eric White) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:17:06 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] some FC3 help? In-Reply-To: <43D98097.1080805@adelphia.net> References: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> <1138315762.11698.2.camel@ignacio.lan> <43D98097.1080805@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1138335426.21100.2.camel@casablanca> sadly, no joy on this end. After patching, I confirmed the functions.py changes visually and reran kadische against both an FC3 and FC4 (unadulterated) repo that I sync weekly, resulting in the same error. I've confirmed that the rpm db under livecd-build_no?? contains no installed kernel rpm, which apparently is the source of the problem. On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 20:08 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > > > Eric White wrote: > > > > > I've seen that a couple of folks have gotten Kadischi to build with FC3 > > > and I thought I'd gotten the kinks worked out, but I continue to see > > > this error message at the end of the anaconda run: > > > > > > making initrd image > > > /tmp/livecd-build_no26/system/lib/modules/None is not a directory. > > > > > > *** Fatal error: /home/ewhite/src/tools/kadischi/livecd-mkinitrd.sh > > > returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=169812 > > > This patch seems to fix it on the machines here. > Along with the above URL, see this also: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178623 > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- Eric From thierryjules at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 04:13:26 2006 From: thierryjules at gmail.com (Thierry Jules) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:13:26 +0400 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] anaconda prerequsite libbog1.so In-Reply-To: <43D91846.9070904@adelphia.net> References: <43D91846.9070904@adelphia.net> Message-ID: .. Yeah. the library's name is libbogl. where can I get that library? On 1/26/06, J. Hartline wrote: > > Thierry Jules wrote: > > > Hi, > > Im tryiing to installing manually the prerequisites of Kadaschi on FC3. > > Can anyone tell me where I could eventually get libbog1.so? > > > > Thnx! > > > > Thierry > > There is no library by that name. > The closest matches are libogg and libbogl. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skunkworx at verizon.net Fri Jan 27 05:24:51 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:24:51 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5 test 2 patch rejections Message-ID: <43D9AEA3.2060006@verizon.net> Sigh, must be getting tired. Posted to fedora users by accident! Well here it is: I am trying to test kadischi against fc5 test2 and i get a patch rejection (not too unexpected) I wonder if I should try and do it by hand? [root at testbox kadischi]# patch -b /usr/sbin/anaconda /usr/local/share/kadischi/patches/anaconda.patch patching file /usr/sbin/anaconda Hunk #1 FAILED at 400. Hunk #2 succeeded at 510 with fuzz 2 (offset 16 lines). Hunk #3 succeeded at 1154 (offset 22 lines). 1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file /usr/sbin/anaconda.rej [root at testbox kadischi]# cat /usr/sbin/anaconda.rej *************** *** 400,406 **** try: (args, extra) = isys.getopt(theargs, 'CGTRxtdr:fm:', - [ 'graphical', 'text', 'test', 'debug', 'nofallback', 'method=', 'rootpath=', 'pcic=', "overhead=", 'testpath=', 'mountfs', 'traceonly', 'kickstart=', 'lang=', 'keymap=', 'kbdtype=', 'module=', 'class=', --- 400,406 ---- try: (args, extra) = isys.getopt(theargs, 'CGTRxtdr:fm:', + [ 'graphical', 'text', 'test', 'debug', 'nofallback', 'livecd', 'method=', 'rootpath=', 'pcic=', "overhead=", 'testpath=', 'mountfs', 'traceonly', 'kickstart=', 'lang=', 'keymap=', 'kbdtype=', 'module=', 'class=', [root at testbox kadischi]# patch -b /usr/lib/anaconda/flags.py /usr/local/share/kadischi/patches/flags.py.patch patching file /usr/lib/anaconda/flags.py Hunk #1 succeeded at 41 with fuzz 2 (offset 1 line). TIA, SW From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 27 07:18:01 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:18:01 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] some FC3 help? In-Reply-To: <1138335426.21100.2.camel@casablanca> References: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> <1138315762.11698.2.camel@ignacio.lan> <43D98097.1080805@adelphia.net> <1138335426.21100.2.camel@casablanca> Message-ID: <43D9C929.4090008@adelphia.net> Eric White wrote: >sadly, no joy on this end. After patching, I confirmed the functions.py >changes visually and reran kadische against both an FC3 and FC4 >(unadulterated) repo that I sync weekly, resulting in the same error. > >I've confirmed that the rpm db under livecd-build_no?? contains no >installed kernel rpm, which apparently is the source of the problem. > > Could you run over the things you did to create your Fedora/base data files? Also determine all prerequisites are met of the kernel and similar packages by running rpm -qpR <.rpm file> on them, and be sure your repository isn't out of whack. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 27 07:24:36 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:24:36 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5 test 2 patch rejections In-Reply-To: <43D9AEA3.2060006@verizon.net> References: <43D9AEA3.2060006@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43D9CAB4.1080901@adelphia.net> Skunk Worx wrote: > Sigh, must be getting tired. Posted to fedora users by accident! Well > here it is: > > I am trying to test kadischi against fc5 test2 and i get a patch > rejection (not too unexpected) I wonder if I should try and do it by > hand? > No, don't bother patching Anaconda. The patches included with Kadischi will only be viable in FC4 versions of Anaconda. Let me get you the relevant info though to get to testing in RAWHIDE and Test: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178623 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179071 No patching of Anaconda is required, and if you see the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Development page it will show you how to generate repodata for Anaconda >= 10.91.4-1(FC5t2) From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 27 08:36:46 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:36:46 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Schedule Topics In-Reply-To: <1138330006.32225.30.camel@bree.local.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601261411p5863686fxb8b595ee2294ddd7@mail.gmail.com> <1138330006.32225.30.camel@bree.local.net> Message-ID: <43D9DB9E.5080008@adelphia.net> Jeremy Katz wrote: >Unless there's a valid reason not to use --rootpath, it's probably >better to use it. This will require a little bit of work to get the >step skipping correct for the changes in anaconda in FC5 > > > I've been juggling FC5tx around, and I see no reason why rootpath will not work. A few things like you stated should be changed however, most notably the reaching a partitioning screen. >> * implement SquashFS (right now it works with zisofs) >> >> >> > >This will require implementing xattrs for squashfs -- I know the >maintainer has thought about it, but I don't think he's really started >working on it. > > Could you elaborate shortly on why xattrs is neccessary for utilizing SquashFS? J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 27 08:50:25 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:50:25 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times Message-ID: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> Hi. There is no set meeting times for us involved with Kaidschi though we have sheduled the next meeting at 20:00 GMT Wednesday, February 1st 2006. Maybe this time frame will work for you guys? ;-) [irc.freenode.net:6667 #fedora-livecd] Thanks! J. Hartline From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 12:24:22 2006 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:24:22 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Fedora-livecd-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 25 In-Reply-To: <20060126170014.DBA507396D@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060126170014.DBA507396D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello, could you share the semi-adapted version? Hi, > I've been adapting a script from the debian package localepurge to work as > post install script. This script purges all languages that doesn't appear > in > the locale.nopurge file. It also gives the option to purge man pages > uncommenting MANDELETE option. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hartline wrote: > Could you run over the things you did to create your Fedora/base data files? > Also determine all prerequisites are met of the kernel and similar > packages by > running rpm -qpR <.rpm file> on them, and be sure your repository isn't > out of whack. > > I'm using a sync'ed repository from mirror.web-ster.com::fedora/core/3/i386 so, I'm using the Fedora/base data files that come from there. I've reverted back to a standard repository b/c I wanted to rule out my custom Fedora/base files as the source of the problem. I've run rpm -qpR <...rpm> and all looks fine, so I'm pretty sure the repository is fine. I've checked my system logs and rsync hasn't complained... On my FC3 host, I'm using: busybox-anaconda-1.00.rc1-5 anaconda-runtime-10.1.0.2-1 anaconda-10.1.0.2-1 which I patched from the kadishi distro (without error), even though a later version is noted in the kadischi docs. I've noticed, however, that when using rpm to inspect my kadischi rpm database, I must specify a fully-qualified path for rpm (e.g., rpm -- dbpath /tmp/livecd-build_no34/system/var/lib/rpm ...) and not a relative path, having cd'd to the livecd system directory. I've not used an alternate rpm database in the past, so don't know if that's rpm's expected behavior. Eric From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 27 14:37:46 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:37:46 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times In-Reply-To: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> References: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> On 1/27/06, J. Hartline wrote: > Hi. > There is no set meeting times for us involved with Kaidschi > though we have sheduled the next meeting at 20:00 GMT > Wednesday, February 1st 2006. > Maybe this time frame will work for you guys? ;-) > [irc.freenode.net:6667 #fedora-livecd] It's good for me :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From katzj at redhat.com Fri Jan 27 16:15:26 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:15:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Schedule Topics In-Reply-To: <43D9DB9E.5080008@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601261411p5863686fxb8b595ee2294ddd7@mail.gmail.com> <1138330006.32225.30.camel@bree.local.net> <43D9DB9E.5080008@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1138378526.6643.12.camel@bree.local.net> On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 02:36 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Jeremy Katz wrote: > >> * implement SquashFS (right now it works with zisofs) > > > >This will require implementing xattrs for squashfs -- I know the > >maintainer has thought about it, but I don't think he's really started > >working on it. > > > Could you elaborate shortly on why xattrs is neccessary for utilizing > SquashFS? Not for squashfs in general, but to get support for SELinux Jeremy From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Jan 27 19:17:06 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:17:06 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] some FC3 help? In-Reply-To: <1138372397.21100.11.camel@casablanca> References: <1138310534.13408.13.camel@casablanca> <1138315762.11698.2.camel@ignacio.lan> <43D98097.1080805@adelphia.net> <1138335426.21100.2.camel@casablanca> <43D9C929.4090008@adelphia.net> <1138372397.21100.11.camel@casablanca> Message-ID: <43DA71B2.3070600@adelphia.net> Eric White wrote: > I'm using a sync'ed repository from > >mirror.web-ster.com::fedora/core/3/i386 > >so, I'm using the Fedora/base data files that come from there. I've >reverted back to a standard repository b/c I wanted to rule out my >custom Fedora/base files as the source of the problem. > > >On my FC3 host, I'm using: > >busybox-anaconda-1.00.rc1-5 >anaconda-runtime-10.1.0.2-1 >anaconda-10.1.0.2-1 > >which I patched from the kadishi distro (without error), even though a >later version is noted in the kadischi docs. > > >Eric > > Sounds strange, maybe you should try upgrading to a Fedora Core 4 platform and try again. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 28 05:11:05 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:11:05 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi postinstall scripts Message-ID: <43DAFCE9.7040804@adelphia.net> Hi. I've been building some RAWHIDE ISOs with kadischi and I notice %systemdir/proc isn't mounted by Anaconda anymore. In kadischi's post_install_scripts we have 01umountproc.sh, which I think is a likely candidate to be replaced with 01prelink.sh. Does anyone have any recommendation as to why this shouldn't be, and how we can run prelink in a more desired position? Here is what I've put together for 01prelink.sh attached. J. Hartline -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) URL http://127.0.0.1/fc5 contacted. OK URL http://127.0.0.1/fc5/Fedora contacted. OK URL http://127.0.0.1/fc5/Fedora/base contacted. OK URL http://127.0.0.1/fc5/Fedora/RPMS contacted. OK Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options *** running anaconda *** Probing for video card: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video Probing for monitor type: A91f+ In interactive step parttype, can't continue (hangs here) Also if I try just : [root at testbox ~]# kadischi http://127.0.0.1/fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso ...from an xterm I get a text based install, that wants to modify my partitions on the hard drive, as I recall I used to get the full graphical anaconda. Comments welcome... -- SW From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Jan 28 10:27:35 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:27:35 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43DB4717.5020802@adelphia.net> Skunk Worx wrote: > If I try my kickstart file I get a error about "parttype, can't > continue" (I've used the "bootloader --location=none" directive in my > previous kickstart scripts) : > You should comment out any partitioning information in your kickstart files. You don't need partitioning building a CD. > Also if I try just : > > [root at testbox ~]# kadischi http://127.0.0.1/fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso > > ...from an xterm I get a text based install, that wants to modify my > partitions on the hard drive, as I recall I used to get the full > graphical anaconda. Right. Use the switches you want, e.g. --text or --graphical. Also Anaconda is going through alot of changes, Jeremy could tell you more about that than I can however. Right now Kaidschi should just use rootpath method and until the options under rootpath are written to be skipped, it will bring you to a partitioning screen. J. Hartline From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 28 11:19:44 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:19:44 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> > [root at testbox ~]# kadischi http://127.0.0.1/fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso > > ...from an xterm I get a text based install, that wants to modify my > partitions on the hard drive, as I recall I used to get the full > graphical anaconda. maybe if you try kadischi //fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso you will get the graphical anaconda . i.e dont use http://127.0.0.1/ use instead the real path -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sat Jan 28 13:54:32 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:54:32 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > maybe if you try > kadischi //fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso > you will get the graphical anaconda . > > i.e dont use http://127.0.0.1/ use instead the real path I don't think that'll help :-( A few weeks ago when I tried kadischi I used a http: URL to my local Fedora mirror (on another machine rather than localhost) and it got past the stage of verifying the repo, until I hit problems with the partitioning screen ... From skunkworx at verizon.net Sat Jan 28 21:57:54 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:57:54 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DB4717.5020802@adelphia.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <43DB4717.5020802@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43DBE8E2.5070608@verizon.net> J. Hartline wrote: > Skunk Worx wrote: > >> If I try my kickstart file I get a error about "parttype, can't >> continue" (I've used the "bootloader --location=none" directive in my >> previous kickstart scripts) : >> > You should comment out any partitioning information in your kickstart > files. > You don't need partitioning building a CD. > # grep bootloader /usr/local/share/kadischi/ks_examples/minimal-livecd.cfg bootloader --location=none :-) I've commented out the bootloader line; it still hangs : In interactive step parttype, can't continue -- SW From skunkworx at verizon.net Sat Jan 28 22:03:23 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:03:23 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> Andy Burns wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > >> maybe if you try >> kadischi //fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso >> you will get the graphical anaconda . >> >> i.e dont use http://127.0.0.1/ use instead the real path > > I don't think that'll help :-( > > A few weeks ago when I tried kadischi I used a http: URL to my local > Fedora mirror (on another machine rather than localhost) and it got past > the stage of verifying the repo, until I hit problems with the > partitioning screen ... > Yes I see...--graphical works. I can get the graphical installer but it appears to want to modify my hard drive partitioning. I don't see any way to say "don't partition". -- SW From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Sat Jan 28 22:11:43 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:11:43 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net><13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com><43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43DBEC1F.9010505@adslpipe.co.uk> Skunk Worx wrote: > I can get the graphical installer but it > appears to want to modify my hard drive partitioning. I don't see any > way to say "don't partition". Neither could I, at the time I felt the position was "works on FC4 with anaconda patches" but "if you want to use FC5 you'd better be (or become) an anaconda expert" ... Unfortunately I'm a greenhorn with python and internals of anaconda, I tried a few blind attempts at bypassing the partitioning screen, but had no joy :-( From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 28 22:15:42 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:15:42 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi-nokernel.patch In-Reply-To: <43D34B57.9040804@adelphia.net> References: <43D34B57.9040804@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601281415v407da4d3k9a3cb4136164aacb@mail.gmail.com> On 1/22/06, J. Hartline wrote: > Hi. > I sent a patch to the list earlier, but it is trash now. > The attached patch is much better, and I'm sure it can be improved though > it kills off the None kernel version. Ive gone through your patch. It is only an " if - else " statement. I suggest that we integrate it to function.py instead of asking our users to patch function.py themselves. Let's simply their lifes :) Good job Jasper :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 28 22:18:27 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:18:27 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> > Yes I see...--graphical works. I can get the graphical installer but it > appears to want to modify my hard drive partitioning. I don't see any > way to say "don't partition". Can you paste me your command? are you using any kickstart file? because I dont have the partitioning. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From skunkworx at verizon.net Sat Jan 28 23:00:42 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:00:42 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DBF79A.6090709@verizon.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> [root at testbox ~]# kadischi http://127.0.0.1/fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso >> >> ...from an xterm I get a text based install, that wants to modify my >> partitions on the hard drive, as I recall I used to get the full >> graphical anaconda. > > maybe if you try > kadischi //fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso > you will get the graphical anaconda . > > i.e dont use http://127.0.0.1/ use instead the real path > that's really interesting...off the direct path it uses graphical mode, and via http:// it uses ascii mode. I use http for all my kadischi work ("automated" install) but it's good to know about the difference. -- SW From skunkworx at verizon.net Sat Jan 28 23:10:43 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:10:43 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DBF9F3.3070903@verizon.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> Yes I see...--graphical works. I can get the graphical installer but it >> appears to want to modify my hard drive partitioning. I don't see any >> way to say "don't partition". > > Can you paste me your command? > are you using any kickstart file? because I dont have the partitioning. > this results in ascii : # kadischi http://127.0.0.1/fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso this results in graphical : # kadischi /media/disk/fc5 /cdimages/fedora-live.iso In graphical : -------------- 1) go through "install anyway", languages, keyboard, then I see the partitioning screen. 2) leave it on "Custom Layout", and uncheck the drive(s). 3) activate "next" and it shows my current partitioning. 4) activate "next" and get an error about "You have not defined a root partition (/), which is required for installation of Fedora Core to continue". These errors must be corrected prior to continuing with your install of Fedora Core." 5) Stop here... Kickstarts : ------------ If I try the sample ks in the kadischi release I get the partition error, and if I comment out the bootloader option (no partition/bootloader options in the ks file) I get the same error : -- SW From skunkworx at verizon.net Sat Jan 28 23:29:00 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:29:00 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DBEC1F.9010505@adslpipe.co.uk> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net><13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com><43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <43DBEC1F.9010505@adslpipe.co.uk> Message-ID: <43DBFE3C.8060703@verizon.net> Andy Burns wrote: > Skunk Worx wrote: > >> I can get the graphical installer but it appears to want to modify my >> hard drive partitioning. I don't see any way to say "don't partition". > > Neither could I, at the time I felt the position was "works on FC4 with > anaconda patches" but "if you want to use FC5 you'd better be (or > become) an anaconda expert" ... > > Unfortunately I'm a greenhorn with python and internals of anaconda, I > tried a few blind attempts at bypassing the partitioning screen, but had > no joy :-( I'm no guru but i figured I'd give fc5t2 a shot to see how far I could get, like every fc release so far I am looking forward to the fc5 final release. Today I hope to get my spare fc4 box back up and then I can do side-by-side testing and possibly apply some of the patches that are coming through the list and see how they do...right now I have a hack in kadischi.py to force kernel-smp, for example. -- SW From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 29 02:20:07 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 03:20:07 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] A Kadischi script and FC5 Question In-Reply-To: <43CFAAD5.9050406@adelphia.net> References: <20060118075037.1FA867387A@hormel.redhat.com> <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> <43CFAAD5.9050406@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601281820w27b0c213s7cd8c480eb11e0a@mail.gmail.com> Jasper, your suggestion in Kadischi Development does it require update for anaconda ? Because Im having Unable to read header list. This may be due to a missing file or bad media. Press to try again. Ive patched kadischi.py and did createrepo too -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 29 08:17:18 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:17:18 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] A Kadischi script and FC5 Question In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601281820w27b0c213s7cd8c480eb11e0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060118075037.1FA867387A@hormel.redhat.com> <43CF53F1.5060500@manasystems.co.uk> <43CFAAD5.9050406@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601281820w27b0c213s7cd8c480eb11e0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DC7A0E.5000401@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Jasper, your suggestion in Kadischi Development does it require update >for anaconda ? > >Unable to read header list. This may be due to a missing file or bad >media. Press to try again. > > Oh very much so. Createrepo requires Anaconda 10.91.4-1 at least. From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 29 08:22:31 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:22:31 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi-nokernel.patch In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601281415v407da4d3k9a3cb4136164aacb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D34B57.9040804@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601281415v407da4d3k9a3cb4136164aacb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DC7B47.6030505@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Ive gone through your patch. It is only an " if - else " statement. I >suggest that we integrate it to function.py instead of asking our >users to patch function.py themselves. Let's simply their lifes :) >Good job Jasper :) > > Those patches are for use with rpmbuild. If a user patches a file themselves, that is thier business. I'm not even done with FC5t2 stuff anyways, I think we shouldn't be "asking" anyone to do anything with FC5t2 or any test release, what is on the development page says explicitly "For users interested" it doesn't say, "do this and get a RAWHIDE CD". Please try not to take my posts out of context. ;-) J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 29 08:25:26 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:25:26 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DBE8E2.5070608@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <43DB4717.5020802@adelphia.net> <43DBE8E2.5070608@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43DC7BF6.7010504@adelphia.net> Skunk Worx wrote: > # grep bootloader > /usr/local/share/kadischi/ks_examples/minimal-livecd.cfg > bootloader --location=none > > :-) > > I've commented out the bootloader line; it still hangs : > Right, right now Anaconda still takes steps that aren't required in rootpath method. Anaconda is under heavy development so you will probably see this until Anaconda has went through the required changes. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 29 08:27:18 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:27:18 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DC7C66.2030803@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Can you paste me your command? >are you using any kickstart file? because I dont have the partitioning. > > If you have an unmodified Anaconda from FC5t2 or greater, you won't see any partitioning screens. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 29 08:29:03 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:29:03 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DBF79A.6090709@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DBF79A.6090709@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43DC7CCF.2090804@adelphia.net> Skunk Worx wrote: > that's really interesting...off the direct path it uses graphical > mode, and via http:// it uses ascii mode. > > I use http for all my kadischi work ("automated" install) but it's > good to know about the difference. When you use Anaconda for a HTTP or FTP or NFS installation you are usually doing it in text based modes, that is why you are seeing the text screens when using http://server.com/dir J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Jan 29 08:32:54 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:32:54 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DBF9F3.3070903@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> <43DBF9F3.3070903@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43DC7DB6.7030209@adelphia.net> Skunk Worx wrote: > Kickstarts : > ------------ > If I try the sample ks in the kadischi release I get the partition > error, and if I comment out the bootloader option (no > partition/bootloader options in the ks file) I get the same error : This is an important step in having Kadischi at-least-usable in FC5 final. What I suggest is you to contact one of the anaconda developers and file an RFE, perhaps by using the bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com The plan down the line is to have Kadischi seemlessly folded into Anaconda anyways. From skunkworx at verizon.net Sun Jan 29 22:51:37 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:51:37 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DC7C66.2030803@adelphia.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> <43DC7C66.2030803@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43DD46F9.20407@verizon.net> J. Hartline wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > >> Can you paste me your command? >> are you using any kickstart file? because I dont have the partitioning. >> >> > If you have an unmodified Anaconda from FC5t2 or greater, you won't see > any partitioning screens. > Sorry to be such a pedant, but I get a partitioning screen under kadischi with fc5t2. I probably don't understand the comment... -- SW From skunkworx at verizon.net Sun Jan 29 23:24:58 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:24:58 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DC7DB6.7030209@adelphia.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> <43DBF9F3.3070903@verizon.net> <43DC7DB6.7030209@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43DD4ECA.1020107@verizon.net> J. Hartline wrote: > Skunk Worx wrote: > >> Kickstarts : >> ------------ >> If I try the sample ks in the kadischi release I get the partition >> error, and if I comment out the bootloader option (no >> partition/bootloader options in the ks file) I get the same error : > > This is an important step in having Kadischi at-least-usable in FC5 final. > What I suggest is you to contact one of the anaconda developers and file > an RFE, perhaps by using the bugzilla: http://bugzilla.redhat.com > > The plan down the line is to have Kadischi seemlessly folded into > Anaconda anyways. > Done. Thanks. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179294 From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 29 23:27:34 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:27:34 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <43DD4ECA.1020107@verizon.net> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> <43DBF9F3.3070903@verizon.net> <43DC7DB6.7030209@adelphia.net> <43DD4ECA.1020107@verizon.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601291527o35ab2504y33dee71d17bb5985@mail.gmail.com> > Done. Thanks. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179294 should not it assigned to Kadischi instead of anaconda? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From skunkworx at verizon.net Mon Jan 30 00:50:40 2006 From: skunkworx at verizon.net (Skunk Worx) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:50:40 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc5t2 some progress In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601291527o35ab2504y33dee71d17bb5985@mail.gmail.com> References: <43DB314A.7000401@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601280319p795716ads1b88b6e852208377@mail.gmail.com> <43DB7798.4070703@adslpipe.co.uk> <43DBEA2B.9090309@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601281418m69256639w64200862e1d88b85@mail.gmail.com> <43DBF9F3.3070903@verizon.net> <43DC7DB6.7030209@adelphia.net> <43DD4ECA.1020107@verizon.net> <13dbfe4f0601291527o35ab2504y33dee71d17bb5985@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DD62E0.1080106@verizon.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> Done. Thanks. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179294 > > should not it assigned to Kadischi instead of anaconda? > I got the impression from J.Hartline's msg that an anaconda enhancement is needed. I suppose there is a way to move the component, if necessary. -- SW From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 30 19:53:15 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:53:15 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601301153o25cb86a1k9f17ef23fae3ad88@mail.gmail.com> Since, no one has an objection to this schedule meeting time, Im declaring the next meeting will be at 20:00 GMT Wednesday, February 1st 2006 as Jasper suggested. Feel free to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Schedule if you feel that the project needs to do it. ok till now the following confirmed that the meeting time is appropriate for them: Chitlesh Goorah Jasper Hartline Menno Slaats Thijs Hulshof did i miss someone? The translators do you have something to add or any suggestion you want to propose ? -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 13:53:48 2006 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:53:48 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601301153o25cb86a1k9f17ef23fae3ad88@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601301153o25cb86a1k9f17ef23fae3ad88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes you missed I confired also (which makes it 5 of us) except the fact this is 22:00 in Bulgaria ;) And I'll be available from time to time, can't we put logs somewhere for people like me to catch up eventually missed meetings? On 30/01/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Since, no one has an objection to this schedule meeting time, Im > declaring the next meeting will be at 20:00 GMT Wednesday, February > 1st 2006 as Jasper suggested. > > Feel free to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Schedule if > you feel that the project needs to do it. > > ok till now the following confirmed that the meeting time is > appropriate for them: > Chitlesh Goorah > Jasper Hartline > Menno Slaats > Thijs Hulshof > > did i miss someone? > > The translators do you have something to add or any suggestion you > want to propose ? > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -- Cheers, Filip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at adslpipe.co.uk Tue Jan 31 14:52:15 2006 From: fedora at adslpipe.co.uk (Andy Burns) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:52:15 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DF799F.7000301@adslpipe.co.uk> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> we have scheduled the next meeting at 20:00 GMT >> Wednesday, February 1st 2006. I'll be imbibing alcohol at that time :-) but I hope someone will post a log of the session again? From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 15:15:27 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:15:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601301153o25cb86a1k9f17ef23fae3ad88@mail.gmail.com> References: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601301153o25cb86a1k9f17ef23fae3ad88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd like to attend, but I'll be travelling. Be sure to post the transcript. :) --g --------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Foundation || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Since, no one has an objection to this schedule meeting time, Im > declaring the next meeting will be at 20:00 GMT Wednesday, February > 1st 2006 as Jasper suggested. > > Feel free to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Schedule if > you feel that the project needs to do it. > > ok till now the following confirmed that the meeting time is > appropriate for them: > Chitlesh Goorah > Jasper Hartline > Menno Slaats > Thijs Hulshof > > did i miss someone? > > The translators do you have something to add or any suggestion you > want to propose ? > > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 31 15:33:59 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:33:59 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] meeting times In-Reply-To: References: <43D9DED1.8000703@adelphia.net> <13dbfe4f0601270637g421e38c5p6ad08775ead26f2a@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601301153o25cb86a1k9f17ef23fae3ad88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601310733p534938acibb179379d6b7ae06@mail.gmail.com> On 1/31/06, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > I'd like to attend, but I'll be travelling. Be sure to post the > transcript. :) sure it will be available on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Meetings :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 31 20:55:47 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:55:47 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC5T2: anaconda makes my screen flicker!! Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> Hai there, Ive wiped out my FC4 to install FC5T2 just to test kadischi. It's a pity that till now I couldn't get nvidia working. Anyway, I tried to patch anaconda, but it failed: patch -b /usr/sbin/anaconda /usr/local/share/kadischi/patches/anaconda.patch patching file /usr/sbin/anaconda Hunk #1 FAILED at 400. Hunk #2 succeeded at 510 with fuzz 2 (offset 16 lines). Hunk #3 succeeded at 1154 (offset 22 lines). 1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file /usr/sbin/anaconda.rej So I get my hands into the patch, and create a NEW patch. Ive attached it in this mail. Ive patched anaconda again. This time is was successful. patch -b /usr/sbin/anaconda /home/chitlesh/anacondafc5t2.patch patching file /usr/sbin/anaconda Ive successfully patched flags.py too. [root at goorah ~]# patch -b /usr/lib/anaconda/flags.py /usr/local/share/kadischi/patches/flags.py.patch patching file /usr/lib/anaconda/flags.py But kadischi cant launch anaconda. [root at goorah ~]# kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fc5t2.iso Starting kadischi... Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options *** running anaconda *** Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/anaconda", line 514, in ? flags.livecd = 1 File "/usr/lib/anaconda/flags.py", line 30, in __setattr__ raise AttributeError, attr AttributeError: livecd *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done Then, I patched kadischi.py with JasperHartline's kadischi-fc5tx.patch and executed kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fc5t2.iso again. THIS TIME ANACONDA MADE my screen flick repetitively after detecting my graphic card. All i needed to do is to press the power button. after booting my FC5T2 again, I tried again. But landed with another error. [root at goorah ~]# kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fc5t2.iso Starting kadischi... Parsing command line arguments Checking UID Using buildstamp file /etc/kadischi/buildstamp. Product path set to Fedora. Now we are going to try to validate your repository (for now, only http, ftp and local repositories can be checked) Repository seems to be OK. Checking required packages Looking for config file Loadnig config file options *** running anaconda *** Probing for video card: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX Go5100] Probing for monitor type: Unknown monitor Starting graphical installation... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/anaconda", line 1080, in ? methodobj = CdromInstallMethod(method, rootPath, intf) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/image.py", line 358, in __init__ (self.device, tree) = string.split(url, ":", 1) ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack *** Fatal error: anaconda returned non zero (256) exit code. Aborting execution. Cleaning up temporary files... Done. I am in the copying process of the dvd on my drive and ill execute kadischi afterwards. Ill keep you tuned. by the way [root at goorah ~]# rpm -qa | grep anaconda anaconda-10.91.9-1 busybox-anaconda-1.01-2.1 anaconda-runtime-10.91.9-1 -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: anacondafc5t2.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 1452 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 31 21:04:29 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:04:29 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: FC5T2: anaconda makes my screen flicker!! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601311304u6f625b6awcf65e1959f442cd8@mail.gmail.com> I successfully launched graphically anaconda, but afterwards I landed on the partitioning. -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 31 21:26:01 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:26:01 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC5T2: anaconda makes my screen flicker!! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DFD5E9.40701@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >Hai there, >Ive wiped out my FC4 to install FC5T2 just to test kadischi. It's a >pity that till now I couldn't get nvidia working. Anyway, > >I tried to patch anaconda, but it failed: > > > With FC5t2 you won't be needing to patch Anaconda or flags.py. Aren't you the one who put in the "What is rootpath mode?" in the FAQ? Have you been reading the list, or what is going on? :-P Oh, also I think that isn't a Kadischi FAQ, since we are on the subject, it has nothing to do with Kadischi all to do with Anaconda. >Then, I patched kadischi.py with JasperHartline's kadischi-fc5tx.patch >and executed kadischi cdrom:// /tmp/fc5t2.iso again. > > > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/image.py", line 358, in __init__ > (self.device, tree) = string.split(url, ":", 1) >ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack > > > This is something I am concerned with, cdrom:// is currently not usable with Kadischi. As it stands, I've tested Kadischi with a DVD media repository suing cdrom:// cdrom://hdd:// and a local file path, to the mounted optical media, and they all fail for different reasons. Perhaps Bill Nottingham can get some work in on Kadischi, and do what it is he needs to do. Otherwise I am plenty happy to get you guys setup with a makeshift, temporary solution to building RAWHIDE ISOs. I've already built a few minimals, some with Gnome.. and they all work excellent. J. Hartline From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Jan 31 21:31:33 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (J. Hartline) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:31:33 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Re: FC5T2: anaconda makes my screen flicker!! In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0601311304u6f625b6awcf65e1959f442cd8@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0601311304u6f625b6awcf65e1959f442cd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43DFD735.3050607@adelphia.net> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >I successfully launched graphically anaconda, but afterwards I landed >on the partitioning. > > The partitioning section of Anaconda, as Jeremy Katz pointed out needs some coaxing. Since Anaconda's rootpath method seems to be sufficient for use with Kadischi, the partitioning steps are all really that need to be rolled out. From katzj at redhat.com Tue Jan 31 21:40:44 2006 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:40:44 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC5T2: anaconda makes my screen flicker!! In-Reply-To: <43DFD5E9.40701@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> <43DFD5E9.40701@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1138743645.7447.22.camel@bree.local.net> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:26 -0600, J. Hartline wrote: > Oh, also I think that isn't a Kadischi FAQ, since we are on the > subject, it has nothing to do with Kadischi all to do with Anaconda. > Note that as a general thing, rootpath has traditionally just been for some debugging purposes with anaconda and I don't know when we'll get a chance to actually put some time into cleaning it up. Therefore, having patches submitted would really help to move things along Jeremy From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 31 22:05:13 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:05:13 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] FC5T2: anaconda makes my screen flicker!! In-Reply-To: <43DFD5E9.40701@adelphia.net> References: <13dbfe4f0601311255v3c687abeqf0fd98b668b8bbab@mail.gmail.com> <43DFD5E9.40701@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0601311405u194f8513yd3847276a78b0396@mail.gmail.com> > With FC5t2 you won't be needing to patch Anaconda or flags.py. ok ive just read them :) You broke my joy in creating my first ever patch :) lol Nevertheless, I ran with some errors before patching. > Aren't you the one who put in the "What is rootpath mode?" in the FAQ? > Have you been reading the list, or what is going on? :-P Ok Ill remove it right now :) > Oh, also I think that isn't a Kadischi FAQ, since we are on the subject, > it has nothing to do with Kadischi > all to do with Anaconda. > Perhaps Bill Nottingham can get some work in on Kadischi, and do what it > is he needs to do. > Otherwise I am plenty happy to get you guys setup with a makeshift, > temporary solution to building RAWHIDE > ISOs. I've already built a few minimals, some with Gnome.. and they all > work excellent. Im eager to get hold of them :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From saikat at cs.cornell.edu Tue Jan 31 23:30:45 2006 From: saikat at cs.cornell.edu (Saikat Guha) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:30:45 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi question Message-ID: <1138750245.11800.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I was looking to help test out Kadishi etc. I created a CD image (using the CVS just now based on FC4 release); tried booting into it from VMWare, but encountered some problems. I am running Kadishi CVS on a FC4 x86-64, with anaconda appropriately patched. The source image is the FC4 32-bit release version. The CD creation process runs fine without any errors. The CD created is used to boot up a VMWare image; said VMWare image successfully boots both 64-bit and 32-bit FC4 rescue CD's. When booting up with the Kadischi created CD, I run into the following problems. 1) Waiting for ISOLINUX to boot into the default image / or picking 'linux' or 'test' at that bootprompt all generate a kernel panic. It appears that the kernel couldn't mount root. 2) Booting into 'test root=/dev/hdc' detects and mounts the ISO9660 filesystem just fine; it then successfully moves the old root to /initrd and frees up some memory (based on debug printouts). Then it stops producing output after printing out 'Warning: unable to open an initial console.' Adding selinux=0 to the boot params doesn't fix this. I am using whatever udev comes with FC4 release. 3) Booting 'vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc init=/bin/bash' gives the same warning (about initial console) and complains that the kernel attempted to kill init. Am I missing something in getting it to boot? -- Saikat -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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