From jdogalt at yahoo.com Mon Nov 6 23:43:25 2006 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:43:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc6 livespin torrent anybody? Message-ID: <20061106234325.65247.qmail@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Anybody have any insight into whats up with fedoraunity? They exploded several days ago, and haven't bothered to put any kind of meaningful explanation up on their page. Specifically, anybody got a working torrent of the fc6 livespin they were hosting? Are there any plans to have an infrastructure for hosting official fedora livecds that doesn't depend on them? (or are there backup sites I'm unaware of?) -dmc/jdog ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com From gdk at redhat.com Mon Nov 6 23:57:29 2006 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 18:57:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] fc6 livespin torrent anybody? In-Reply-To: <20061106234325.65247.qmail@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20061106234325.65247.qmail@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Head over to #fedora-unity on IRC and ask them what's up. --g (p.s. I'm working on a deal to get some hosting space at iBiblio. Terabytes worth, if all goes well. Stay tuned, and ask me if you haven't heard anything in a couple of weeks.) On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Jane Dogalt wrote: > Anybody have any insight into whats up with fedoraunity? They exploded > several days ago, and haven't bothered to put any kind of meaningful > explanation up on their page. > > Specifically, anybody got a working torrent of the fc6 livespin they > were hosting? > > Are there any plans to have an infrastructure for hosting official > fedora livecds that doesn't depend on them? (or are there backup sites > I'm unaware of?) > > -dmc/jdog > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Sponsored Link > > $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - > Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From sacarde at tiscali.it Thu Nov 9 20:33:24 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 21:33:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi into pendrive 1GB Message-ID: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> helo, I would like to install fedora-kadischi into my pendrive 1GB can you help me ? thankyou sacarde at tiscali.it From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Thu Nov 9 20:44:37 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:44:37 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi into pendrive 1GB In-Reply-To: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> References: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <45539335.1000103@adelphia.net> sacarde wrote: > helo, > I would like to install fedora-kadischi into my pendrive 1GB > > can you help me ? > Look at this script for reference: http://autopsy.liveprojects.info/EXTRAS/liveusb.sh The only parts which are not scripted, and are interactive are the fdisk and grub sections, which can probably be scripted. J. Hartline From sacarde at tiscali.it Fri Nov 10 18:51:47 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:51:47 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi into pendrive 1GB In-Reply-To: <45539335.1000103@adelphia.net> References: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> <45539335.1000103@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <200611101951.48181.sacarde@tiscali.it> I download SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG and I installed with dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 493796+0 records in 493796+0 records out 252823552 bytes (253 MB) copied, 357.003 s, 708 kB/s but when I boot I have load kernel OK load initrd OK some message: /linuxrc: 56 /initrd/sbin/MAKEDEV: not found mounting initrd_devpts on dev_pts: no such file or directory /linuxrc 64 /etc/rc.readonly not found kernel panicnot syncing sacarde at tiscali.it From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Fri Nov 10 23:27:43 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:27:43 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi into pendrive 1GB In-Reply-To: <200611101951.48181.sacarde@tiscali.it> References: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> <45539335.1000103@adelphia.net> <200611101951.48181.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <45550AEF.2050008@adelphia.net> You might want to check the SHA1SUM of the image you downloaded before writing it to the device, and after writing the image to the device use "sync" to be sure all data has been written to disk. It is not uncommon for things written to USB devices to become corrupt due to unplugging the device before all buffers and cache are flushed. I just tested the image you are speaking of and it works fine for me. J. Hartline sacarde wrote: > I download SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG > > and I installed with > > dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 > 493796+0 records in > 493796+0 records out > 252823552 bytes (253 MB) copied, 357.003 s, 708 kB/s > > > but when I boot I have > > load kernel OK > load initrd OK > > some message: > /linuxrc: 56 /initrd/sbin/MAKEDEV: not found > > mounting initrd_devpts on dev_pts: no such file or directory > > /linuxrc 64 /etc/rc.readonly not found > kernel panicnot syncing > From sacarde at tiscali.it Sat Nov 11 09:11:57 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:11:57 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi =?iso-8859-1?q?into=09pendrive?= 1GB In-Reply-To: <45550AEF.2050008@adelphia.net> References: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> <200611101951.48181.sacarde@tiscali.it> <45550AEF.2050008@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <200611111011.58185.sacarde@tiscali.it> Alle 00:27, sabato 11 novembre 2006, Jasper Hartline ha scritto: > You might want to check the SHA1SUM of the image you downloaded before > writing the sum is OK > it to the device, and after writing the image to the device use "sync" > to be sure all data > has been written to disk. > > It is not uncommon for things written to USB devices to become corrupt > due to unplugging > the device before all buffers and cache are flushed. what diferent betwen dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda bs=512 ??? thankyou From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sat Nov 11 11:44:09 2006 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 05:44:09 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi into pendrive 1GB In-Reply-To: <200611111011.58185.sacarde@tiscali.it> References: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> <200611101951.48181.sacarde@tiscali.it> <45550AEF.2050008@adelphia.net> <200611111011.58185.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <4555B789.1090602@adelphia.net> sacarde wrote: > what diferent betwen > > dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 > > dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda bs=512 > sda is the whole device, sda1 is the first partition on that device. You definitely want to use /dev/sda for that particular image. J. Hartline From sacarde at tiscali.it Sat Nov 11 16:42:26 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:42:26 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] help to install fedora-kadischi into pendrive 1GB In-Reply-To: <4555B789.1090602@adelphia.net> References: <200611092133.25215.sacarde@tiscali.it> <200611111011.58185.sacarde@tiscali.it> <4555B789.1090602@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <200611111742.26553.sacarde@tiscali.it> Alle 12:44, sabato 11 novembre 2006, Jasper Hartline ha scritto: > sacarde wrote: > > what diferent betwen > > > > dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 > > > > dd if=SDA-256MB-FEDORA-CORE-5-BASED-i386-LIVEUSB.IMG of=/dev/sda bs=512 > > sda is the whole device, sda1 is the first partition on that device. > You definitely want to use /dev/sda for that particular image. I try with /dev/sda after dd command I have sda---> sda1 (200MB) grub is installed boot from usb works OK I select fedora in menu grub loading kernel, initrd I think problem is after decompression of usbroot.squash how can I check it ? sacarde at tiscali.it From jos at xos.nl Tue Nov 14 22:54:40 2006 From: jos at xos.nl (Jos Vos) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:54:40 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Unionfs for live CD? Message-ID: <200611142254.kAEMseL18115@xos037.xos.nl> Hi, Has the use of unionfs be considered for the Fedora live CD i.s.o. bind mounts? I've looked at Unionfs long ago and at that moment it was not stable enough and it was lacking some features, but things may have changed. -- -- Jos Vos -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 From jdogalt at yahoo.com Wed Nov 15 00:18:09 2006 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:18:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Unionfs for live CD? In-Reply-To: <200611142254.kAEMseL18115@xos037.xos.nl> Message-ID: <20061115001809.93672.qmail@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Jos Vos wrote: > Hi, > > Has the use of unionfs > be considered for the Fedora live CD i.s.o. bind mounts? > Yup. Search the list. Mainly it is the stability/features issue that prevents it from being accepted into fedora, and thus precludes it from official fedora livecds. I posted an iso and related initialization that utilized unionfs, though only at a proof of concept quality level. Also, it may be somewhat obsolete now, as linux-from-scratch moved from unionfs, to a device mapper snapshot architecture which accomplishes the same thing, without unionfs deficiencies. The pilgrim project which has also been discussed on this list has implemented that architecture for fedora core based livecds. That's probably what you want to check out. -dmc/jdog > I've looked at Unionfs long ago and at that moment it was not stable > enough and it was lacking some features, but things may have changed. > > -- > -- Jos Vos > -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 > -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From sacarde at tiscali.it Sat Nov 18 13:18:05 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:18:05 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi over usbstick installation Message-ID: <200611181418.05339.sacarde@tiscali.it> helo, I try to install live-cd-fedora-kadischi into usb pendrive 1GB I done make filesystem vfat over usb sda1 copy live cd into /dev/sda1 copy /boot/syslionux/* into sda1 syslinux /dev/sda but I have this error I have paste in http://spazioinwind.libero.it/sacarde/images/schermata8.png can you help me step by step ? thankyou sacarde at tiscali.it From jeroen.janssen at gmail.com Sat Nov 18 13:27:45 2006 From: jeroen.janssen at gmail.com (Jeroen Janssen) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:27:45 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi over usbstick installation In-Reply-To: <200611181418.05339.sacarde@tiscali.it> References: <200611181418.05339.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: On 11/18/06, sacarde wrote: > helo, > I try to install live-cd-fedora-kadischi into usb pendrive 1GB > > I done > > make filesystem vfat over usb sda1 > copy live cd into /dev/sda1 > copy /boot/syslionux/* into sda1 > syslinux /dev/sda > > but I have this error I have paste in > > http://spazioinwind.libero.it/sacarde/images/schermata8.png Hi, I'm not familiar with kadischi myself, but just to check if I understand: 1) you're trying to create a bootable usb stick? 2) you're trying to boot from this stick with qemu? 3) does qemu support booting from usb stick? (which options did you use to start qemu?) 4) did you make any changes to the kadische scripts? (since it seems it is looking for a cdrom drive at /cdrom instead of an usb-stick at /dev/sda?) Hope this helps, Jeroen Janssen From sacarde at tiscali.it Sat Nov 18 15:21:40 2006 From: sacarde at tiscali.it (sacarde) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:21:40 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi over usbstick installation In-Reply-To: References: <200611181418.05339.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <200611181621.40618.sacarde@tiscali.it> Alle 14:27, sabato 18 novembre 2006, hai scritto: > > 1) you're trying to create a bootable usb stick? yes > 2) you're trying to boot from this stick with qemu? yes > 3) does qemu support booting from usb stick? system is booting, error comes later > (which options did you > use to start qemu?) qemu -hda /dev/sda or qemu -hda /dev/sda1 same result, same error > > 4) did you make any changes to the kadische scripts? (since it seems > it is looking for a cdrom drive at /cdrom instead of an usb-stick at > /dev/sda?) I view error seems like this, can you suggest me to modify kadische script or ...... ? thankyou From filip.tsachev at gmail.com Mon Nov 20 05:37:05 2006 From: filip.tsachev at gmail.com (Filip Tsachev) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:37:05 +0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] kadischi over usbstick installation In-Reply-To: <200611181621.40618.sacarde@tiscali.it> References: <200611181418.05339.sacarde@tiscali.it> <200611181621.40618.sacarde@tiscali.it> Message-ID: I can't open the error png, did you try to boot it without qemu? -- Cheers, Filip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdogalt at yahoo.com Thu Nov 23 21:12:33 2006 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:12:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Happy TG! What's goin' on with the pilgrims? Message-ID: <442373.83707.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> So I've been following this fedora summit thing, and it sounds like the current fc6 livespin is by no means the end of the fedora livecd project. So David, Can you elaborate a bit on pilgrim's future? Are there any resources/websites/forums/repositories/goalslists/milestonetargets that the readers of this list would be interested in? I'll be busy with finals for awhile, but I might be able to contribute something after that, and in the spring. Certainly I intend to demonstrate my userspace qemu automated system image generator, combined with with a pilgrim/lfs style livecd COW mechanism. -dmc/jdog __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From wsherman at gmail.com Fri Nov 24 18:44:19 2006 From: wsherman at gmail.com (Wayne Sherman) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:44:19 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live "USB" trends amd Fedora live CD Message-ID: <45673D83.7010901@gmail.com> I have been researching live distros, and it seems to be a trend that Live "CD" distros are increasingly supporting Live "USB" also. For example, DSL has a "5-way install script" that supports several boot options: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/usb.html One thing I really like is that in addition to booting directly from CD or USB, you can also boot from inside another Windows or Linux environment using the Qemu emulator: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/usb-qemu.html I really like Fedora, and hope the developers will officially incorporate live USB support since many users want to boot from a USB memory device. Are there any plans for this? I suggest considering a change of the name from Fedora Live "CD" to something more general. Booting from USB, CD, Qemu, IEEE1394, and network are all possible booting options. Thanks, Wayne From jdogalt at yahoo.com Sat Nov 25 00:16:46 2006 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:16:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live "USB" trends amd Fedora live CD In-Reply-To: <45673D83.7010901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35233.51447.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Wayne Sherman wrote: > I have been researching live distros, and it seems to be a trend that > Live "CD" distros are increasingly supporting Live "USB" also. For > example, DSL has a "5-way install script" that supports several boot > options: > > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/usb.html > > One thing I really like is that in addition to booting directly from > CD > or USB, you can also boot from inside another Windows or Linux > environment using the Qemu emulator: > > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/usb-qemu.html > > I really like Fedora, and hope the developers will officially > incorporate live USB support since many users want to boot from a USB > memory device. Are there any plans for this? > > I suggest considering a change of the name from Fedora Live "CD" to > something more general. Booting from USB, CD, Qemu, IEEE1394, and > network are all possible booting options. I agree. Obviously livedvd's are already widespread, and liveblurays are probably already useful. I doubt you'll get much disagreement that a feature switch on the 'livecd/system generator' tool should exist, to differentiate between 'output a liveiso', 'output a liveusb image', 'output a generic tgz'. Likewise, I would think a good generator, even of linux livecds, would have an option to include an installation of qemu&cygwin&firefox for win32, such that the livecd could either be trivially booted natively, or trivially run under qemu under windows. Yup, lots of work remains to be done to make the ultimate system image generator... (I actually have low priority plans to implement the above as well, with the system image generator sufficiently portable (bash/python/qemu/X) so that it can be natively run under winblowz as well, straight from one of it's output liveisos. Bwa Ha Ha... -dmc/jdog > > Thanks, > > Wayne > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 28 02:07:38 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:07:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed changes for fedora Message-ID: <685316.70124.qm@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Dear all, When visiting Distrowatch.com, I found the following information about Fedora http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20061127 Far-reaching changes affecting the Fedora distribution are looming on the horizon. Discussed by the project's core developers during the recently concluded Fedora Summit, a number of new ideas are currently being submitted for approval by Red Hat. If they are accepted, the "Core" and "Extras" parts of Fedora will merge into what is tentatively called Fedora "Complete", with two separate products, named "Fedora Desktop" and "Fedora Server", emerging from the huge software list. Extending the current support period of about 9 months to around 13 months is another important proposal that will please many Fedora users. Those who enjoy remastering the distribution for their own purposes will be excited to learn about "pungi" and "pilgrim", two tools that will allow building custom distributions and live CDs/DVDs. Pilgrim is also expected to help with delivering an official Fedora live CD/DVD. There is a lot more - please visit the Proposed Changes to the Release Process and Live CD Roadmap pages on FedoraProject.org for more details about these and other changes affecting the popular distribution. Is there any way for the community to have some input on these issues? Is there also another way to find out that these changes are being proposed? Many community members are uninformed and object to some changes when they are made, but since they had no voice they could not do anything about it. Some of these changes like "Fedora Total" seem very logical. We'll still have to wait and see what happens. Regards, Antonio ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From gary at mlbassoc.com Tue Nov 28 12:07:58 2006 From: gary at mlbassoc.com (Gary Thomas) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:07:58 -0700 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed changes for fedora In-Reply-To: <685316.70124.qm@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <685316.70124.qm@web52602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <456C269E.7070208@mlbassoc.com> Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear all, > > When visiting Distrowatch.com, I found the following > information about Fedora > > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20061127 > > Far-reaching changes affecting the Fedora distribution > are looming on the horizon. Discussed by the project's > core developers during the recently concluded Fedora > Summit, a number of new ideas are currently being > submitted for approval by Red Hat. If they are > accepted, the "Core" and "Extras" parts of Fedora will > merge into what is tentatively called Fedora > "Complete", with two separate products, named "Fedora > Desktop" and "Fedora Server", emerging from the huge > software list. Extending the current support period of > about 9 months to around 13 months is another > important proposal that will please many Fedora users. > Those who enjoy remastering the distribution for their > own purposes will be excited to learn about "pungi" > and "pilgrim", two tools that will allow building > custom distributions and live CDs/DVDs. Pilgrim is > also expected to help with delivering an official > Fedora live CD/DVD. There is a lot more - please visit > the Proposed Changes to the Release Process and Live > CD Roadmap pages on FedoraProject.org for more details > about these and other changes affecting the popular > distribution. > > Is there any way for the community to have some input > on these issues? > > Is there also another way to find out that these > changes are being proposed? Many community members > are uninformed and object to some changes when they > are made, but since they had no voice they could not > do anything about it. > > Some of these changes like "Fedora Total" seem very > logical. We'll still have to wait and see what > happens. These topics are being discussed on 'fedora-devel-list' -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Thomas | Consulting for the MLB Associates | Embedded world ------------------------------------------------------------ From olivares14031 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 28 13:04:54 2006 From: olivares14031 at yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:04:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed changes for fedora Message-ID: <20061128130454.3030.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Thomas To: fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:07:58 AM Subject: Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed changes for fedora Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear all, > > When visiting Distrowatch.com, I found the following > information about Fedora > > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20061127 > > Far-reaching changes affecting the Fedora distribution > are looming on the horizon. Discussed by the project's > core developers during the recently concluded Fedora > Summit, a number of new ideas are currently being > submitted for approval by Red Hat. If they are > accepted, the "Core" and "Extras" parts of Fedora will > merge into what is tentatively called Fedora > "Complete", with two separate products, named "Fedora > Desktop" and "Fedora Server", emerging from the huge > software list. Extending the current support period of > about 9 months to around 13 months is another > important proposal that will please many Fedora users. > Those who enjoy remastering the distribution for their > own purposes will be excited to learn about "pungi" > and "pilgrim", two tools that will allow building > custom distributions and live CDs/DVDs. Pilgrim is > also expected to help with delivering an official > Fedora live CD/DVD. There is a lot more - please visit > the Proposed Changes to the Release Process and Live > CD Roadmap pages on FedoraProject.org for more details > about these and other changes affecting the popular > distribution. > > Is there any way for the community to have some input > on these issues? > > Is there also another way to find out that these > changes are being proposed? Many community members > are uninformed and object to some changes when they > are made, but since they had no voice they could not > do anything about it. > > Some of these changes like "Fedora Total" seem very > logical. We'll still have to wait and see what > happens. These topics are being discussed on 'fedora-devel-list' Why can't they also be passed on to fedora-list? This according to the main page is where the discussions pertaining to fedora users should belong. This is where there are more users and more discussions/rants/etc. Thanks for the info, Antonio -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Thomas | Consulting for the MLB Associates | Embedded world ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 28 23:05:16 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:35:16 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Proposed changes for fedora In-Reply-To: <20061128130454.3030.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061128130454.3030.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <456CC0AC.9070108@fedoraproject.org> Antonio Olivares wrote: > These topics are being discussed on 'fedora-devel-list' > > Why can't they also be passed on to fedora-list? > This according to the main page is where the discussions > pertaining to fedora users should belong. This is where there > are more users and more discussions/rants/etc. We dont really need rants. If there is constructive feedback on Fedora development and the changes proposed fedora-devel list is suitable for that. Fedora-list is for end user discussions. Rahul From bdykstra at virtualwar.com Thu Nov 30 23:30:57 2006 From: bdykstra at virtualwar.com (Brian Dykstra) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:30:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems on a very current FC6 Message-ID: <4270.192.168.2.100.1164929457.squirrel@webmail.virtualwar.com> Hi, I just found this project this morning and eagerly installed Kadischi after an ugly experience last night with live-linux scripts. My system is a running kernel 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 I've yum updated all the packages and installed everything required from the wiki install documentation. I had no problem compiling the source. So basically I'm very current and ready to go. When I ran # kadischi --help I got the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 8, in ? from functions import * File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 12, in ? import isys File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 32, in ? import block File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/block/__init__.py", line 33, in ? from bdevid import bdevid as _bdevid ImportError: libparted-1.7.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I dug up an older version of parted and install libparted-1.7.so.1 but ran into all new errors: [root@ ~]# kadischi --help Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/kadischi.py", line 8, in ? from functions import * File "/usr/local/share/kadischi/lib/functions.py", line 12, in ? import isys File "/usr/lib/anaconda/isys.py", line 32, in ? import block File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/block/__init__.py", line 33, in ? from bdevid import bdevid as _bdevid ImportError: /usr/lib/libbdevid.so.5.1.19: undefined symbol: ped_exception_get_handler I was wondering if anyone had Kadischi working on current FC6 (I saw the Unity CD release) and had some pointers? Thanks BD