From xenkramer at yahoo.com Thu Feb 1 18:34:47 2007 From: xenkramer at yahoo.com (Kramer Zramer) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:34:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live CD customization issues Message-ID: <887905.9212.qm@web62112.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello, I am a new Linux user and Fedora Core 5 was my first distribution. We've also just migrated to a mix of RHEL and Fedora in office. Our system admin told us about the Fedora Live CD and the Live CD tools which make it easy to customize one. I have been playing with on weekends and can get a basic system running, following the examples in the Wiki. My compliments to the Live CD team for such an easy to use tool, that even an inexperienced user like me could use with success. I'll be obliged if someone could assist me with the following questions? 1. Creating the CD based on the RPM is pretty straight forward and so is adding custom packages. But how do I actually customize the CD in terms of eye candy...wallpaper for example? How to play with configuration files? Say I want to edit /etc/fstab? 2. Just for fun I extracted the contents of the fedora-livecd-* rpms. Can I also customize the list of applications as specified in these rpms? For example, can I remove applications that are specified in the fedora-livecd-desktop-6.1.i386.rpm? 3. How to add data on the customzed CD? Suppose I want a particular folder which contains some files into the Live CD? Is this possible? 4. I read the archives of the list and someone pointed to the /var/tmp folder. What's in /var/tmp/livecd-creator directory? The folder is empty. 5. What's the installation root that I read in the Wiki Howto (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo)? Is it the same as above? Thank you. Kram ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From zrchrn at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 01:08:36 2007 From: zrchrn at gmail.com (Ahm ed) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:08:36 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live-cd request Message-ID: Hey, I just want to say I have just seen screen shots of the f7t1 live-cd build, and I am impressed. I have the cd downloaded and I will be trying it shortly. I was wondering if there was any room on the official live-cd builds for including gcc, make, and kernel-devel. It's just that these are needed by some people to build drivers like madwifi, once they install. I understand Fedora doesn't support certain drivers due to them not being consistent with FOSS ideas and I agree with this, but I also feel we shouldn't make those people who have them suffer by having to "jump through hoops" to get, for example, wireless drivers working. It is very difficult to manually resolve gcc dependencies. So please if it is at all possible, add the kernel-devel, gcc, and make packages. Thank you. From tchung at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 4 02:08:09 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:08:09 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Live-cd request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369bce3b0702031808x7bd74159w88dacd5fb6ee97a6@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/07, Ahm ed wrote: > Hey, > I just want to say I have just seen screen shots of the f7t1 live-cd > build, and I am impressed. I have the cd downloaded and I will be > trying it shortly. I was wondering if there was any room on the > official live-cd builds for including gcc, make, and kernel-devel. > It's just that these are needed by some people to build drivers like > madwifi, once they install. I understand Fedora doesn't support > certain drivers due to them not being consistent with FOSS ideas and I > agree with this, but I also feel we shouldn't make those people who > have them suffer by having to "jump through hoops" to get, for > example, wireless drivers working. It is very difficult to manually > resolve gcc dependencies. > > So please if it is at all possible, add the kernel-devel, gcc, and > make packages. Thank you. There is actually a configuration file for FC6 fedora-livecd-development[1]. If you're familiar with livecd tools, you can build one for yourself. Otherewise, I can build it for you via LiveCD On-Demand Service[2] Regards, [1] http://fedoranews.org/tchung/livecd/fedora-livecd/ [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2007-January/msg00103.html -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Sun Feb 4 11:50:34 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:50:34 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Customizing home folder? Message-ID: <3263b11b0702040350p2c9cf878w39665736444b008@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I was wondering if any one could explain how to customize the contents of the home folder on the Fedora live cd? Or if this is even possible! Thanks, Jon From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Sun Feb 4 19:48:31 2007 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:48:31 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Customizing home folder? In-Reply-To: <3263b11b0702040350p2c9cf878w39665736444b008@mail.gmail.com> References: <3263b11b0702040350p2c9cf878w39665736444b008@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2/4/07, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if any one could explain how to customize the contents > of the home folder on the Fedora live cd? Or if this is even possible! > I have a lot of dot_files to config for /home/user of livecd. By saving the tarball into build_dir/etc/dot_files.tgz, I could untar & ungzip into home folder of user later in /etc/init.d/livecd script (see David's script). HTH, -- http://vnoss.org From mauricio at tecnologica.com.br Tue Feb 6 15:22:11 2007 From: mauricio at tecnologica.com.br (Mauricio de Andrade Ramos) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:22:11 -0200 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Download of livecd-creator Message-ID: <1170775331.6276.5.camel@mauricio> Hello list, how is it possible to download livecd-creator. Can't find any link in the project site. Thanks you all in advance. Mauricio. From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Tue Feb 6 18:42:24 2007 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:42:24 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Download of livecd-creator In-Reply-To: <1170775331.6276.5.camel@mauricio> References: <1170775331.6276.5.camel@mauricio> Message-ID: On 2/6/07, Mauricio de Andrade Ramos wrote: > Hello list, > > how is it possible to download livecd-creator. Can't find any link in > the project site. Thanks you all in advance. Mauricio. > http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/ -- http://vnoss.org From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 6 19:24:49 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:24:49 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Download of livecd-creator In-Reply-To: <1170775331.6276.5.camel@mauricio> References: <1170775331.6276.5.camel@mauricio> Message-ID: <369bce3b0702061124n1e35a6e6ncffa9c3fd5058c4a@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/07, Mauricio de Andrade Ramos wrote: > Hello list, > > how is it possible to download livecd-creator. Can't find any link in > the project site. Thanks you all in advance. Mauricio. Hi Mauricio, Please refer to "How to Create a Fedora Live CD Using the Live CD Tools" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo which links to"RPMs for making Live CDs are now available." http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From lars.bjorndal at broadpark.no Tue Feb 6 21:04:42 2007 From: lars.bjorndal at broadpark.no (Lars =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rndal?=) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:04:42 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to clone a HD install onto a livecd? In-Reply-To: <650771.16011.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <650771.16011.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jane Dogalt writes: [...] > Not trivial, but very doable. Of course, from my own perspective, I > would just spend the time making a suitable pilgrim config file, rather > than cloning an existing system. For storage space and reproducibility > and maintenance, thats a big win IMO. Yes, of course, but I have a system with a lot of packages that I only use in some situation, and just this system is handy also on CD, when I'm traveling for instance. Lars From jdogalt at yahoo.com Wed Feb 7 17:53:39 2007 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:53:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] How to clone a HD install onto a livecd? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <564714.96223.qm@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Lars Bj?rndal wrote: > Jane Dogalt writes: > [...] > > Not trivial, but very doable. Of course, from my own perspective, > I > > would just spend the time making a suitable pilgrim config file, > rather > > than cloning an existing system. For storage space and > reproducibility > > and maintenance, thats a big win IMO. > > Yes, of course, but I have a system with a lot of packages that I > only > use in some situation, and just this system is handy also on CD, when > I'm traveling for instance. I was just pointing out that for instance, if you invest the time in creating the livecd-creator spin configuration, then, for example when f7 and f8 come out, it should be much easier to just rerun a command to spit out a new iso, rather than deal with trying to upgrade the cloned system. -dmc/jdog ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From alexm at asic.udl.es Thu Feb 8 17:06:17 2007 From: alexm at asic.udl.es (Alex Magaz) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:06:17 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] rhgb not working Message-ID: <200702081806.17643.alexm@asic.udl.es> Hi, I'm trying to get graphical boot with rhgb, but I can't make it work. I've modified rc.sysinit to open a shell instead of running rhgb. Then if I try running manually rhgb, it segfaults. This is what I get: # rhgb --debug-interface (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_n_screens: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_cursor_new_for_display: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_cursor_unref: assertion `cursor != NULL' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_monitor_geometry: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed (rhgb:1747): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance (rhgb:1747): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_set_default_size: assertion `height >= -1' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_default_colormap: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_get_visual: assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_default_colormap: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_root_window: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_root_window: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_new: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (parent)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_enable_synchronized_configure: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_user_data: assertion `window != NULL' failed (rhgb:1747): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_attach: assertion `window != NULL' failed (rhgb:1747): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_set_background: assertion `GTK_IS_STYLE (style)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_paint_flat_box: assertion `GTK_IS_STYLE (style)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_type_hint: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_accept_focus: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_focus_on_map: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_modal_hint: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_realize_icon: assertion `widget->window != NULL' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_x11_xatom_to_atom_for_display: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed (rhgb:1747): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_root_window: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed Segmentation fault and running this: # rhgb --debug checking for X checking for run create pipe create ramfs and does nothing more. But if I boot the live cd normally into runlevel 5 and then switch to runlevel 3, I can run it from console without any problem. Also some time ago I made a fedora 5 live cd with kadischi and rhgb worked well. Someone can give me some hint about what's happening? It is a fedora 6 live cd built with pilgrim. Thanks, Alex From blevine73 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 8 17:14:03 2007 From: blevine73 at yahoo.com (Brian Levine) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:14:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Setting video resolution on boot up Message-ID: <976063.70605.qm@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am attempting to run the Fedora Core LiveCD received with Fedora 6 and RHEL Bible book by wiley. I am assuming it is the same build although there is not much on the content of the CD to indicate which build or version. The problem I am having (tested on 2 different intel desktops, older Dell 4100 dimension and newer Lenovo 3000J) is that after the initial boot my monitor displays "Mode not supported H:68.8KHZ V:85.1HZ" and the display never comes back. I used the same monitor on both machines. The monitor is a MAG innovision Model #900P flatscreen. It seems the liveCD display refresh rate defaults to 85HZ. Has anyone come up with a workaround yet? I've been able to successully run the LiveCD on my Dell Lattitude laptop but I'm really trying to get a permanent install going on the above mentioned Dell Dimension tower. Please help, i don't want to have to haul my old CRT up from the basement and lose half my desk. Sincerely, Brian blevine73 yahoo ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From cnegus at rucls.net Thu Feb 8 18:28:42 2007 From: cnegus at rucls.net (Chris Negus) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:28:42 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Setting video resolution on boot up In-Reply-To: <976063.70605.qm@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <976063.70605.qm@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1170959322.2537.284.camel@einstein> On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 09:14 -0800, Brian Levine wrote: > I am attempting to run the Fedora Core LiveCD received with Fedora 6 and RHEL > Bible book by wiley. I am assuming it is the same build although there is not > much on the content of the CD to indicate which build or version. The CD is not an official live CD from the Fedora project, because there was no official live CD available when Fedora 6 was released. It was built using Kadischi, from packages on the Fedora 6 release DVD. Fedora project now recommends Pilgrim (livecd-creator), for making live CDs. > The problem I am having (tested on 2 different intel desktops, older Dell 4100 > dimension and newer Lenovo 3000J) is that after the initial boot my monitor > displays "Mode not supported H:68.8KHZ V:85.1HZ" and the display never comes > back. I used the same monitor on both machines. The monitor is a MAG innovision > Model #900P flatscreen. By default, Kadischi used the vesa video driver. > Has anyone come up with a workaround yet? One thing you could try is to start the live CD in text mode (init 3). >From the boot prompt, type "livecd 3". When you get the login prompt, login as root (livecd is the password). Run system-config-display to configure your video card. Then run startx and see what you get. Remember the display settings for when you do a permanent install later. > I've been able to successfully run the LiveCD on my Dell Lattitude laptop but I'm > really trying to get a permanent install going on the above mentioned Dell Dimension > tower. Please help, i don't want to have to haul my old CRT up from the basement and > lose half my desk. If you have a DVD drive, the DVD that comes with the book is the official Fedora 6 DVD, so you should install from that. The CD lets you do a network install (FTP, HTTP, NFS) by typing "linux" or "linux askmethod". Descriptions in the book describe how to set up FC6 software on a local server, which would probably be much faster than installing over the Internet. -- Chris Negus From pylesc at gdls.com Thu Feb 8 22:06:38 2007 From: pylesc at gdls.com (pylesc at gdls.com) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:06:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems using livecd-creator Message-ID: I've been trying to get "livecd-creator" working, and have been running in to problems. When I run the "livecd-creator" I get the following output... No Match for argument: fedora-livecd-desktop /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/run-init': No such file or directory /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/fixfiles': No such file or directory /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/vmlinuz*': No such file or directory /bin/mv: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/livecd-initramfs.img': No such file or directory /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage2_eltorito': No such file or directory /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz': No such file or directory sh: mksquashfs: command not found INFO: UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings. Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem, use -input-charset to override. /usr/bin/mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! I have installed the following RPMS... fedora-livecd-destop-6-1.i386.rpm fedora-livecd-gnome-6-1.i386.rpm fedora-livecd-6-1.i386.rpm livecd-tools-001-1.i386.rpm Any idea as to what the problem is? Any help would greatly be appreciated!! Thanks, Chris This is an e-mail from General Dynamics Land Systems. It is for the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please return this message to the sender and delete the message and any attachments from your computer. Your cooperation is appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnpenguin at vnoss.org Thu Feb 8 22:15:28 2007 From: vnpenguin at vnoss.org (Vnpenguin) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:15:28 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems using livecd-creator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/8/07, pylesc at gdls.com wrote: > > I've been trying to get "livecd-creator" working, and have been running in to problems. When I run the "livecd-creator" I get the following output... > > No Match for argument: fedora-livecd-desktop > /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/run-init': No such file or directory > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/fixfiles': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/vmlinuz*': No such file or directory > /bin/mv: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/livecd-initramfs.img': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage2_eltorito': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz': No such file or directory > sh: mksquashfs: command not found Do you have package squashfs-tools ? Do you build livecd under root ? -- http://vnoss.org From kengert at redhat.com Fri Feb 9 01:25:03 2007 From: kengert at redhat.com (Kai Engert) Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:25:03 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Additional ATA kernel modules needed? Message-ID: <45CBCD6F.6020004@redhat.com> I experience a boot failure with the Fedora 7 Test 1 LiveCD. It complains about missing /dev/root, drops me into an emergency shell, asking for manual link creation. However, /dev does not contain the CD device. This is probably related to bug 220470 and/or 218444. The particular system requires the pata_via kernel module in order to access the CD drive, which is not contained in the livecd-initramfs.img. Actually I don't see any pata modules listed. Should the LiveCD include more device driver kernel modules, in order to allow booting from as many systems as possible? Kai -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3315 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From pylesc at gdls.com Fri Feb 9 13:37:38 2007 From: pylesc at gdls.com (pylesc at gdls.com) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:37:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems using livecd-creator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yep...I installed the RPM for squashfs-tools and installed the livecd-tools as root... Vnpenguin Sent by: fedora-livecd-list-bounces at redhat.com 02/08/2007 05:15 PM Please respond to fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com To fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com cc Subject Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems using livecd-creator On 2/8/07, pylesc at gdls.com wrote: > > I've been trying to get "livecd-creator" working, and have been running in to problems. When I run the "livecd-creator" I get the following output... > > No Match for argument: fedora-livecd-desktop > /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/run-init': No such file or directory > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/fixfiles': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/vmlinuz*': No such file or directory > /bin/mv: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/livecd-initramfs.img': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage2_eltorito': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz': No such file or directory > sh: mksquashfs: command not found Do you have package squashfs-tools ? Do you build livecd under root ? -- http://vnoss.org -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list This is an e-mail from General Dynamics Land Systems. It is for the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please return this message to the sender and delete the message and any attachments from your computer. Your cooperation is appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pylesc at gdls.com Fri Feb 9 18:28:13 2007 From: pylesc at gdls.com (pylesc at gdls.com) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:28:13 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems using livecd-creator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Update... I figured out what I was doing wrong... I didn't notice that the livecd_rpms were called out in the "livecd-creator" command line in the "--repo=lcd6,http..." argument...I thought it was simply a rpm that needed to be installed prior to running the application. After adding the argument (and seperately downloading the various rpms needed for the fedora-livecd-gnome configuration, since I have no internet connection on the box I'm working on, and running "createrepo" to create a yum repository locally), I was able to get it to work!!! WOOHOO!!! Thanks for the help!!! Vnpenguin Sent by: fedora-livecd-list-bounces at redhat.com 02/08/2007 05:15 PM Please respond to fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com To fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com cc Subject Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Problems using livecd-creator On 2/8/07, pylesc at gdls.com wrote: > > I've been trying to get "livecd-creator" working, and have been running in to problems. When I run the "livecd-creator" I get the following output... > > No Match for argument: fedora-livecd-desktop > /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot create regular file `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/sbin/run-init': No such file or directory > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/mayflower': No such file or directory > /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot run command `/sbin/fixfiles': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/vmlinuz*': No such file or directory > /bin/mv: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/livecd-initramfs.img': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage2_eltorito': No such file or directory > /bin/cp: cannot stat `/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmpU32QCc/install_root/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz': No such file or directory > sh: mksquashfs: command not found Do you have package squashfs-tools ? 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Message-ID: <20070211140119.py36wytkcgw004wc@webmail.dtcc.edu> I'm trying to modify some Linux labs for a class I'm teaching so that students can work from home on their non-Linux system using the Fedora 6 Zod live CD on their Windows-based PCs. One lab has them running fdisk to create a partition, though, and the last thing I want is to have them do something that's going to mess up their PCs. Is there a way to have them play with running fdisk off the live CD without it affecting their PC's actual hard drives? I'd play with it myself but I'm at home and don't have access to a system that I'm willing to rebuild if I mess up my own hard drive! Thanks to anyone who can answer this. From jdogalt at yahoo.com Sun Feb 11 19:48:12 2007 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:48:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What happens if I partition from a live cd? In-Reply-To: <20070211140119.py36wytkcgw004wc@webmail.dtcc.edu> Message-ID: <697463.29255.qm@web56909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Leslie Vincent wrote: > I'm trying to modify some Linux labs for a class I'm teaching so that > > students can work from home on their non-Linux system using the > Fedora > 6 Zod live CD on their Windows-based PCs. > > One lab has them running fdisk to create a partition, though, and the > > last thing I want is to have them do something that's going to mess > up > their PCs. Is there a way to have them play with running fdisk off > the > live CD without it affecting their PC's actual hard drives? qemu? i.e. qemu-img create /tmp/fakebits.img 100G qemu -boot d -cdrom /dev/livecd -hdc /tmp/fakebits.img -m 256 (booting the livecd virtually from within the livecd. Make sure to make the fakebits device one that is nonexistent on teh real system, just in case someone thinks they are typing in the virtual host, but are typing in the real host). That is assuming qemu is on the livecd. Or you could create an empty file, associate it with a loop device, and partition that perhaps. -dmc/jdog > > I'd play with it myself but I'm at home and don't have access to a > system that I'm willing to rebuild if I mess up my own hard drive! > > Thanks to anyone who can answer this. > > > > > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Sun Feb 11 19:19:11 2007 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:19:11 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What happens if I partition from a live cd? In-Reply-To: <20070211140119.py36wytkcgw004wc@webmail.dtcc.edu> References: <20070211140119.py36wytkcgw004wc@webmail.dtcc.edu> Message-ID: <45CF6C2F.40607@adelphia.net> Leslie Vincent wrote: > I'm trying to modify some Linux labs for a class I'm teaching so that > students can work from home on their non-Linux system using the Fedora > 6 Zod live CD on their Windows-based PCs. > > One lab has them running fdisk to create a partition, though, and the > last thing I want is to have them do something that's going to mess up > their PCs. Is there a way to have them play with running fdisk off > the live CD without it affecting their PC's actual hard drives? > > I'd play with it myself but I'm at home and don't have access to a > system that I'm willing to rebuild if I mess up my own hard drive! > > Thanks to anyone who can answer this. The only thing I can think of by what you describe, is not actually writing the changes, which is documented and is the 'w' option in the first fdisk menu, otherwise you can probably use small 8MB or 16MB flash disks, or simply nit run any fdisk commands at all which doesn't seem like a solution. The really only best way is to have a empty hard drive, and do fdisk operations on it, providing you are writing changes. J. Hartline From jgranado at redhat.com Mon Feb 12 08:46:31 2007 From: jgranado at redhat.com (Joel Andres Granados) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:46:31 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What happens if I partition from a live cd? In-Reply-To: <697463.29255.qm@web56909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <697463.29255.qm@web56909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45D02967.7000003@redhat.com> Jane Dogalt wrote: > --- Leslie Vincent wrote: > > >> I'm trying to modify some Linux labs for a class I'm teaching so that >> >> students can work from home on their non-Linux system using the >> Fedora >> 6 Zod live CD on their Windows-based PCs. >> >> One lab has them running fdisk to create a partition, though, and the >> >> last thing I want is to have them do something that's going to mess >> up >> their PCs. Is there a way to have them play with running fdisk off >> the >> live CD without it affecting their PC's actual hard drives? >> > > qemu? > > i.e. > > qemu-img create /tmp/fakebits.img 100G > qemu -boot d -cdrom /dev/livecd -hdc /tmp/fakebits.img -m 256 > > (booting the livecd virtually from within the livecd. Make sure to > make the fakebits device one that is nonexistent on teh real system, > just in case someone thinks they are typing in the virtual host, but > are typing in the real host). That is assuming qemu is on the livecd. > > > Or you could create an empty file, associate it with a loop device, and > partition that perhaps. > > -dmc/jdog > > > >> I'd play with it myself but I'm at home and don't have access to a >> system that I'm willing to rebuild if I mess up my own hard drive! >> >> Thanks to anyone who can answer this. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-livecd-list mailing list >> Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > Vmware is another possibility. Download Vmware from http://www.vmware.com/download/ (I understand you have to be registered). Once the students have a virtual machine installed in their windows box (There is an virtual machine creation wizard that they can follow) they can start the fedora live cd by inserting the cd in the computer drive ( The virtual machine has to be configured to look at the physical drive and not something differente like an iso image, but thats usually the default configuration so I would suppose there needs to be no additional configuration.). This setup allows them to fdisk all they want and not be in danger of damaging their box. Regards Joel From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Mon Feb 12 16:59:11 2007 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:59:11 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What happens if I partition from a live cd? In-Reply-To: <45D02967.7000003@redhat.com> References: <697463.29255.qm@web56909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <45D02967.7000003@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45D09CDF.2070608@adelphia.net> > Jane Dogalt wrote: >> >> >> Or you could create an empty file, associate it with a loop device, and >> partition that perhaps. >> >> -dmc/jdog >> This is perhaps a good idea I did not think of, when I think fdisk I simply think physical disks. This is what I would go for, this assumes I suppose learning how to create files with dd and mounting an arbitrary file to loop. Thanks jdog. From jgranado at redhat.com Mon Feb 12 19:02:50 2007 From: jgranado at redhat.com (Joel Andres Granados) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:02:50 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] What happens if I partition from a live cd? In-Reply-To: <45D09CDF.2070608@adelphia.net> References: <697463.29255.qm@web56909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <45D02967.7000003@redhat.com> <45D09CDF.2070608@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <45D0B9DA.7000203@redhat.com> Jasper Hartline wrote: > >> Jane Dogalt wrote: >>> >>> >>> Or you could create an empty file, associate it with a loop device, and >>> partition that perhaps. >>> >>> -dmc/jdog >>> > This is perhaps a good idea I did not think of, when I think fdisk I > simply think physical > disks. This is what I would go for, this assumes I suppose learning > how to create files with dd and > mounting an arbitrary file to loop. > > Thanks jdog. > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list I managed to use the fdisk command in the fedora liveCD. Here is what I did: 1. su - (become root) 2. dd count=2000 if=/dev/zero of=fileName (basically means to copy 2000 blocks from the zero device to the fileName, The zero device simply spits out \0 characters) 3. mkefs -T ext2 fileName (created a ext2 file system so I could easily loop back mount it) 4. mount -o loop fileName /mount/path (mounted the file on the /mount/path) 5. fdisk /dev/loop0 (usually the loopback mount is located in /dev/loop0, you can find out where the mount was made with the `mount` command) 6. have fdisk fun :) I checked my original partitions and the process didn't affect them. But I would test it first just to be sure :) Im using the livecd in a vmware machine. Regards Joel. From pylesc at gdls.com Mon Feb 12 20:54:58 2007 From: pylesc at gdls.com (pylesc at gdls.com) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:54:58 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Size limit? Message-ID: I was wondering if there is a limit to the size of iso file that can be generated using livecd-creator. I was hoping to somehow build a live DVD. Is this even possible? This is an e-mail from General Dynamics Land Systems. It is for the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy, forward or act in reliance on it or its attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, please return this message to the sender and delete the message and any attachments from your computer. Your cooperation is appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com GPG: http://www.rootshell.be/~kagesens/public-key.asc Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Wed Feb 14 20:11:35 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:11:35 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Customizing home folder? In-Reply-To: References: <3263b11b0702040350p2c9cf878w39665736444b008@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3263b11b0702141211w26f953e1i4aecd5a46044e329@mail.gmail.com> > I have a lot of dot_files to config for /home/user of livecd. By > saving the tarball into build_dir/etc/dot_files.tgz, I could untar & > ungzip into home folder of user later in /etc/init.d/livecd script > (see David's script). > I'm sorry for my slowness in replying! Could you explain this in a bit more detail!? i.e. what is a dot_file and what is David's script? Thanks for the help with this, Yours kindly, Jonathan Roberts From msteinmann at vesbridge.com Thu Feb 15 03:18:28 2007 From: msteinmann at vesbridge.com (Martin Steinmann) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:18:28 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] New sipX LiveCD published Message-ID: The sipX project team on SIPfoundry published a new Kadischi based Fedora LiveCD of its IP PBX application. The following is new: - The LiveCD now offers an XFCE4 based desktop environment - It auto-configures a redundant high-availability system consisting of 2 machines - It auto-configures DNS, DHCP, NTP, FTP, TFTP, and HTTP services The sipx LiveCD is a complete IP PBX solution on a single CD. It can turn your laptop into a full SIP-based PBX. We use it mostly for demo setups at events where we bring a laptop, a hub, and a few phones. The LiveCD can be downloaded here : Pick version 3.7.3 Documentation and screenshots How we created the LiveCD It is based on FC5 and the 2.6.15 kernel. We had trouble with the 2.6.18 kernel and are planning to provide an update once the 2.6.19 kernel is out. We are also interested in trying the install feature so that a system can be installed off a LiveCD. If you are interested to help let us know. Thought you might be interested --martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 15 20:01:59 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:01:59 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Make loopback mounts objects Message-ID: <1171569719.19239.50.camel@aglarond.local> Instead of scattering calls to losetup and mount/umount everywhere, the attached patch moves to where we have a LoopbackMount object to setup and cleanup. 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We use it mostly for demo > setups at events where we bring a laptop, a hub, and a few phones. > > > > The LiveCD can be downloaded here > : Pick version 3.7.3 > > > > Documentation and screenshots > > > > > How we created the LiveCD > > > > > It is based on FC5 and the 2.6.15 kernel. We had trouble with the 2.6.18 > kernel and are planning to provide an update once the 2.6.19 kernel is out. > > > > We are also interested in trying the install feature so that a system > can be installed off a LiveCD. If you are interested to help let us know. > > > > Thought you might be interested Cool. Thanks for passing on the information. Note that the installation to hard disk feature is already in Fedora 7 Test 1 release created using Pilgrim. Doing variations with your own package sets should be pretty simple. Rahul From joost.soeterbroek at gmail.com Sun Feb 18 10:02:00 2007 From: joost.soeterbroek at gmail.com (Joost Soeterbroek) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:02:00 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Announcing Huygens: Dutch language Fedora LiveCD for school labs Message-ID: Announcing Huygens: Dutch language Fedora LiveCD for school labs Huygens is a Fedora Core6 LiveCD specifically targeted towards children and students in computer school labs in the Netherlands and Belgium. Contains (among others): * OpenOffice.org * tuxpaint * tuxtype * GCompriz * Childsplay The CD is pre-configured for the Dutch language and Netherlands timezone. 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Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com GPG: http://www.rootshell.be/~kagesens/public-key.asc Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From janina at rednote.net Wed Feb 21 21:36:08 2007 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:36:08 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Possible OK Button (A11y) Bug Message-ID: <20070221213608.GD4179@rednote.net> I booted into FC7T1 LiveCD the other day for the first time. Fortunately, I had someone looking over my shoulder! Please read on. Part way through the boot an error came up about accessibility support. It's enabled by default, the error said, but the AT-SPI module required for a11y support was missing. "Press OK to continue," the message said. 1.) I am particularly delighted to see a11y on by default, of course. I would be. I do recall this was a testing decision for Gnome 2.17. But that raises another point: If not on after release, is there thought on how would handle this need on the fly? 2.) The real problem I encountered may be much more than missing AT-SPI. The OK button was not keyboardable, meaning I could not press enter to dismiss it. I had to get my sighted colleague to put the mouse cursor on it and click it away. Here's my concern: Is this possibly only this dialog? Or any similar "missing something or other" dialog? If the latter, do I Bugzilla this in Gnome? On Fedora? Or, was my laptop keyboard just not working yesterday and the button dismisses perfectly well with the enter key? Thanks for all guidance on this. It's a major issue for a11y support. PS: Did I say how thrilled I am to see a11y listed in the LiveCD feature set? Janina -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina at a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 21 21:51:07 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:51:07 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Possible OK Button (A11y) Bug In-Reply-To: <20070221213608.GD4179@rednote.net> References: <20070221213608.GD4179@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1172094667.21134.31.camel@aglarond.local> On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 16:36 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Part way through the boot an error came up about accessibility support. > It's enabled by default, the error said, but the AT-SPI module required > for a11y support was missing. "Press OK to continue," the message said. Yes -- this is a race condition that was noticed, but in the "need to get something out" rush, it was deemed okay for the first test release. It's filed as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=227214. Note that you can also hit this on a real system, but it's less likely since hard disks are a lot faster than reading from CD :) > 1.) I am particularly delighted to see a11y on by default, of > course. I would be. I do recall this was a testing decision for Gnome > 2.17. But that raises another point: If not on after release, is there > thought on how would handle this need on the fly? David has some ideas here involving gdm, the face browser, and a11y in gdm. I'll let him expound further > 2.) The real problem I encountered may be much more than missing > AT-SPI. The OK button was not keyboardable, meaning I could not press > enter to dismiss it. I had to get my sighted colleague to put the mouse > cursor on it and click it away. > > Here's my concern: Is this possibly only this dialog? Or any similar > "missing something or other" dialog? If the latter, do I Bugzilla this > in Gnome? On Fedora? The only place I've seen anything like it is this dialog. So I think it's just a big with how the specific dialog is (and where it is in the startup sequence of the session). So it should hopefully be resolved when the actual bug is fixed Jeremy From janina at rednote.net Thu Feb 22 00:46:38 2007 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:46:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Possible OK Button (A11y) Bug In-Reply-To: <1172094667.21134.31.camel@aglarond.local> References: <20070221213608.GD4179@rednote.net> <1172094667.21134.31.camel@aglarond.local> Message-ID: <20070222004638.GE4179@rednote.net> Jeremy Katz writes: > On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 16:36 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Part way through the boot an error came up about accessibility support. > > It's enabled by default, the error said, but the AT-SPI module required > > for a11y support was missing. "Press OK to continue," the message said. > > Yes -- this is a race condition that was noticed, but in the "need to > get something out" rush, it was deemed okay for the first test release. No problem. I certainly support progress over unattainable perfection. > It's filed as > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=227214. Note that > you can also hit this on a real system, but it's less likely since hard > disks are a lot faster than reading from CD :) Ah! Thank you. > > > 1.) I am particularly delighted to see a11y on by default, of > > course. I would be. I do recall this was a testing decision for Gnome > > 2.17. But that raises another point: If not on after release, is there > > thought on how would handle this need on the fly? > > David has some ideas here involving gdm, the face browser, and a11y in > gdm. I'll let him expound further OK. Understood. GDM is supposed to allow us to do gestures like "hold Ctrl-S for 5 seconds to start speech," or "Ctrl-M for 5 seconds to start magnification." This is currently broken on all Linux, I believe, and only working on Solaris. > > > 2.) The real problem I encountered may be much more than missing > > AT-SPI. The OK button was not keyboardable, meaning I could not press > > enter to dismiss it. I had to get my sighted colleague to put the mouse > > cursor on it and click it away. > > > > Here's my concern: Is this possibly only this dialog? Or any similar > > "missing something or other" dialog? If the latter, do I Bugzilla this > > in Gnome? On Fedora? > > The only place I've seen anything like it is this dialog. So I think > it's just a big with how the specific dialog is (and where it is in the > startup sequence of the session). So it should hopefully be resolved > when the actual bug is fixed OK. Thanks. I appreciate the reassurance. Janina > > Jeremy > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina at a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 22 19:01:37 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:01:37 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] use isolinux instead of grub Message-ID: <1172170897.14287.7.camel@aglarond.local> While using grub works for CD booting in a lot of cases, it also seems to have problems on some hardware. isolinux is what we've always used everywhere else for CD booting, so it probably makes sense to be consistent with the live CD.[1] Attached moves to using isolinux and the vesamenu + splash bits that are used for anaconda. 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Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Thu Feb 22 19:54:07 2007 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:54:07 +0000 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] use isolinux instead of grub In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> References: <1172170897.14287.7.camel@aglarond.local> <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3263b11b0702221154l63463e1fvc19189680d59f78@mail.gmail.com> On 22/02/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 2/22/07, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > While using grub works for CD booting in a lot of cases, it also seems > > to have problems on some hardware. isolinux is what we've always used > > everywhere else for CD booting, so it probably makes sense to be > > consistent with the live CD.[1] Attached moves to using isolinux and > > the vesamenu + splash bits that are used for anaconda. > > > > Probably worth looking at making things more generic with things like > > the location of the splash image, but this change doesn't actually make > > that a worse problem, per se. > > > > Jeremy > > > > [1] ... since I'm quite happy leaving my days of bootloader debugging > > behind me :-) > > > > Will isolinux support DVD booting? > Regards, I believe so. It's used on the Knoppix live DVD(?)... Jon From katzj at redhat.com Thu Feb 22 20:00:49 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] use isolinux instead of grub In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> References: <1172170897.14287.7.camel@aglarond.local> <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172174449.16174.0.camel@aglarond.local> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:51 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > Will isolinux support DVD booting? Yep. isolinux is what we use for all of our CD/DVD install media on i386/x86_64 Jeremy From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 22 20:06:05 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:06:05 -0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] use isolinux instead of grub In-Reply-To: <1172174449.16174.0.camel@aglarond.local> References: <1172170897.14287.7.camel@aglarond.local> <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> <1172174449.16174.0.camel@aglarond.local> Message-ID: <369bce3b0702221206v3177aebs39e63a8084ea98fb@mail.gmail.com> On 2/22/07, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:51 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > > Will isolinux support DVD booting? > > Yep. isolinux is what we use for all of our CD/DVD install media on > i386/x86_64 > > Jeremy Excellent, looking forward an official Fedora LiveDVD. :) Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From cnegus at rucls.net Thu Feb 22 20:08:06 2007 From: cnegus at rucls.net (Chris Negus) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:08:06 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] use isolinux instead of grub In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> References: <1172170897.14287.7.camel@aglarond.local> <369bce3b0702221151u5e0282d8r6f8f4378ec2ffa55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172174886.2672.69.camel@einstein> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:51 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 2/22/07, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > [1] ... since I'm quite happy leaving my days of bootloader debugging > > behind me :-) > Will isolinux support DVD booting? Yes. I've created about 8GB DVD images that boot with isolinux just fine from a DVD-9. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. -- Chris Negus From kiguin at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 18:22:26 2007 From: kiguin at gmail.com (Luke K) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:22:26 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] how do I build a local repository? Message-ID: Hi, I downloaded the f7test1 livecd and it looks great! I think this has the potential to really help the spread of Fedora. On the control panel I could only find an option to select the default printer, not actually set-up a printer (I'm aware of lpadmin but a GUI would be nice). Maybe the response to my questions below will be that I need to spend much more time reading about how repositories work, but I'll ask anyhow. On the LiveCDHowTo page the following example command is given: livecd-creator \ --repo=c6,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/\ --repo=c6_upd, http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/ \ --repo=lcd6,http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/ \ --repo=e6,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/\ --package=fedora-livecd-desktop \ --fslabel=Fedora-6-Zod-LiveCD-1-foo2 If I want to use f7, do I replace "/6/" with "/development/", and remove the extras repo (which doesn't appear to exist for development). Should I also change "repo=c6" etc. to "repo=c7" or does this not make any difference? I notice if I run the modified command above that RPM header files are downloaded into "/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmp...../yum-cache/[lcdr_c6|lcdr_e6|lcdr_lcd6]/headers". Is there a simpler way to build a local repository rather than using these to download the required RPM's? I think it'd be good to have the option to keep downloaded RPM's after a build, and for the next build, only download any addition ones needed. Finally, I see that the RPM's do not sit inside the folder given to livecd-creator " http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/os/", but inside the subfolder "Fedora/RPMS/". Is this how I should structure my local repository? Do I need anything other than RPM's in my local repository? many thanks Luke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And something obvious that Ray pointed out to me today when I hit it again (drats, I was hoping it would just get fixed upstream) is that if you move the mouse just to the upper right corner, then the dialog has focus and you can press enter. But I think I might try to see what's causing it here shortly Jeremy From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 18:46:57 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes Message-ID: <20070223184657.GA23983@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> I've been playing to see how much more we can fit on the live CD for test 2. First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to livecd-creator (attached). Then, I started adding and removing things. Based on Jeremy's test1 configs at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/f7live/, I made the following changes: Added ----- attr bind-utils gnome-screensaver pcmciautils termcap crontabs ppp rp-pppoe wvdial logrotate mdadm smolt nfs-utils readahead rhgb gok gnome-backgrounds gnome-audio nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto-bluetooth monkey-bubble gnome-blog Removed ------- emacs xchat-gnome This yields a 678MB Live CD, so we've still got a decent amount of room for changes. (SRPM for fedora-livecd attached) Bill -------------- next part -------------- --- creator/livecd-creator 2007-02-23 11:11:05.002439000 -0500 +++ /usr/bin/livecd-creator 2007-02-23 11:42:10.000000000 -0500 @@ -314,6 +314,7 @@ yumconf.write("retries=20\n") yumconf.write("obsoletes=1\n") yumconf.write("gpgcheck=0\n") + yumconf.write("tsflags=nodocs\n") yumconf.write("\n") yumconf.close() -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"Press OK to continue," the message said. > [snip] > > 2.) The real problem I encountered may be much more than missing > > AT-SPI. The OK button was not keyboardable, meaning I could not press > > enter to dismiss it. I had to get my sighted colleague to put the mouse > > cursor on it and click it away. > > And something obvious that Ray pointed out to me today when I hit it > again (drats, I was hoping it would just get fixed upstream) is that if > you move the mouse just to the upper right corner, then the dialog has > focus and you can press enter. > > But I think I might try to see what's causing it here shortly Okay, that was ridiculous. There's a check to see if the at registry starts within n seconds (was 2 seconds in test1, has increased to 5 now... but that's still not always enough). Put in a quick fix for test2 and then we'll get a real fix afterwards Jeremy From kiguin at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 19:25:56 2007 From: kiguin at gmail.com (Luke K) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:25:56 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] general livecd questions Message-ID: I have some more questions: - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit fedora system? - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit machine running 32-bit fedora (what I currently have)? - Is there a way the livecd user can replicate the livecd without installing it to disk? The ability to self-replicate would add another way to spread these. (I'm not familiar with the technical issues, but if limited memory was a problem perhaps the source and destination livecd's could be swapped in and out repeatedly? Or, would temporarily storing the image on a flash drive help? Perhaps there could be a choice at boot time to replicate the CD?) - Probably my most ignorant question: is it a security risk that the user and root passwords are empty, ie. can someone take control of the machine if you're connected to the net? - What (if any) responsibility do I have to make source code available for things on a livecd I create? If the CD only has fedora-provided software? If the CD has non-fedora GPL software? thanks again, Luke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 19:28:32 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] general livecd questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070223192832.GA25010@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Luke K (kiguin at gmail.com) said: > - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit fedora system? Yes, although make sure your run-init is the right arch. > - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit machine running 32-bit fedora (what > I currently have)? Yes. Bill From kiguin at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 19:44:25 2007 From: kiguin at gmail.com (Luke K) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:44:25 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] general livecd questions In-Reply-To: <20070223192832.GA25010@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20070223192832.GA25010@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/23/07, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Luke K (kiguin at gmail.com) said: > > - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit fedora system? > > Yes, although make sure your run-init is the right arch. Maybe I'm out of my depth here, as I don't know what run-init is, and google doesn't help. For the moment I'll use 32 bit fedora on a 64 bit machine anyhow (with which I understand from your reply I don't have to worry about the run-init). thank you Luke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katzj at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 19:43:07 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:43:07 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <20070223184657.GA23983@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20070223184657.GA23983@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1172259787.3646.22.camel@aglarond.local> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 13:46 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > I've been playing to see how much more we can fit on the live > CD for test 2. Always the fun part (or not) > First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to > livecd-creator (attached). Hmm... I'm not sure if we really want to do this unconditionally. And given that we later can install from the live CD, is removing the docs something we really want to do? > Then, I started adding and removing things. Based on Jeremy's > test1 configs at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/f7live/, I > made the following changes: Those bits are now at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test1/ but a symlink points there. I've put up what I've used for a proto-test2 live CD at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test2pre (and I'll try and keep that current) > Added > ----- > attr > bind-utils > gnome-screensaver > pcmciautils > termcap > crontabs > ppp > rp-pppoe > wvdial > logrotate > mdadm > smolt > nfs-utils > readahead These are all in my list > rhgb Not added because it's incredibly painful for a live CD right now... and I keep hoping that we're going to get to kill rhgb before F7. Although the chances of that seem to be dwindling :( > gok > gnome-backgrounds > gnome-audio > nautilus-sendto > nautilus-sendto-bluetooth > monkey-bubble > gnome-blog Didn't add any of these and I'm at ~ 15 megs to spare. So some could be, but probably not all of them without the --nodocs bits > Removed > ------- > emacs > xchat-gnome I took out xchat-gnome, emacs is still there. It's probably worth killing for some subset of the above too. Jeremy From katzj at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 19:46:50 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:46:50 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] general livecd questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1172260010.3646.27.camel@aglarond.local> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 14:25 -0500, Luke K wrote: > - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit fedora system? Yes. But if you build the livecd-tools package, you end up with 64bit binaries trying to go into the initramfs which breaks things. This is something that we really need to clean up before F7 final. > - Can I create a x86 livecd on a 64-bit machine running 32-bit fedora > (what I currently have)? Definitely. > - Is there a way the livecd user can replicate the livecd without > installing it to disk? The ability to self-replicate would add > another way to spread these. (I'm not familiar with the technical > issues, but if limited memory was a problem perhaps the source and > destination livecd's could be swapped in and out repeatedly? Or, > would temporarily storing the image on a flash drive help? Perhaps > there could be a choice at boot time to replicate the CD?) If you're in the run from RAM mode, you should be able to duplicate the CD without problems. If you're not running from RAM, then we really can't do it unless you have two CD drives. > - Probably my most ignorant question: is it a security risk that the > user and root passwords are empty, ie. can someone take control of the > machine if you're connected to the net? Things are set up such that no services are running for remote login. So there's not a lot of risk here, although there is some. Jeremy From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 19:57:07 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:57:07 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <1172259787.3646.22.camel@aglarond.local> References: <20070223184657.GA23983@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1172259787.3646.22.camel@aglarond.local> Message-ID: <20070223195707.GA3646@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jeremy Katz (katzj at redhat.com) said: > > First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to > > livecd-creator (attached). > > Hmm... I'm not sure if we really want to do this unconditionally. And > given that we later can install from the live CD, is removing the docs > something we really want to do? It's stuff in /usr/share/doc and info pages. Are either of those appropriate for a *Desktop* livecd? > Those bits are now at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test1/ but a > symlink points there. I've put up what I've used for a proto-test2 live > CD at http://people.redhat.com/katzj/live/f7test2pre (and I'll try and > keep that current) OK, will look at what I have and rediff. > > gok > > gnome-backgrounds > > gnome-audio > > nautilus-sendto > > nautilus-sendto-bluetooth > > monkey-bubble > > gnome-blog > > Didn't add any of these and I'm at ~ 15 megs to spare. So some could > be, but probably not all of them without the --nodocs bits So, somehow this spin is now averaging between 706MB and 714MB on my trials - it *shouldn't* be that big. Will do more investigating. Bill From kiguin at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 20:06:59 2007 From: kiguin at gmail.com (Luke K) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:06:59 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] self-replication Message-ID: On 2/23/07, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 14:25 -0500, Luke K wrote: > > - Is there a way the livecd user can replicate the livecd without > > installing it to disk? The ability to self-replicate would add > > another way to spread these. (I'm not familiar with the technical > > issues, but if limited memory was a problem perhaps the source and > > destination livecd's could be swapped in and out repeatedly? Or, > > would temporarily storing the image on a flash drive help? Perhaps > > there could be a choice at boot time to replicate the CD?) > > If you're in the run from RAM mode, you should be able to duplicate the > CD without problems. If you're not running from RAM, then we really > can't do it unless you have two CD drives. > Given that many users of livecd's will be inexperienced like myself, a useful feature to add sometime would be a "replicate this CD" option under one of the top-level menus, (if the CD is running in RAM mode). It could also be used to replicate arbitrary CDs. Although this could also encourage outdated CDs to spread. It's beyond me to write something like this at the moment. thanks Luke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 20:47:03 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <20070223195707.GA3646@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20070223184657.GA23983@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1172259787.3646.22.camel@aglarond.local> <20070223195707.GA3646@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20070223204703.GA4385@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Bill Nottingham (notting at redhat.com) said: > > Didn't add any of these and I'm at ~ 15 megs to spare. So some could > > be, but probably not all of them without the --nodocs bits > > So, somehow this spin is now averaging between 706MB and 714MB > on my trials - it *shouldn't* be that big. Will do more investigating. This is because of gok -> gnome-speech -> festival. I built with the attached diff, and got 681MB, so we've still got some wiggle room. Bill -------------- next part -------------- diff --git a/10-fedora-livecd-base.conf b/10-fedora-livecd-base.conf diff --git a/20-fedora-livecd-gnome.conf b/20-fedora-livecd-gnome.conf index 71abd58..4d54924 100755 --- a/20-fedora-livecd-gnome.conf +++ b/20-fedora-livecd-gnome.conf @@ -46,7 +46,6 @@ totem-mozplugin gnome-session system-config-display vim-minimal -emacs gnome-applets compiz gucharmap @@ -68,7 +67,10 @@ system-config-printer yum-updatesd alsa-utils gnome-screensaver - +gnome-backgrounds +gnome-audio +nautilus-sendto +nautilus-sendto-bluetooth dejavu-lgc-fonts " ;; diff --git a/30-fedora-livecd-desktop.conf b/30-fedora-livecd-desktop.conf index ee686a8..ed76fd4 100755 --- a/30-fedora-livecd-desktop.conf +++ b/30-fedora-livecd-desktop.conf @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ case $1 in # inquire what packages to install; prints package list on stdout pkgadd) echo " +bug-buddy evolution evolution-connector evolution-webcal @@ -33,6 +34,8 @@ inkscape rhythmbox abiword gnumeric +monkey-bubble +gnome-blog scim scim-libs From notting at redhat.com Fri Feb 23 21:43:53 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:43:53 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] silence udev Message-ID: <20070223214353.GA5737@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> udev complains about 'device' going away. This seems to silence it. Of course, with the move to libata, we could remove this line entirely. Bill -------------- next part -------------- diff --git a/creator/mayflower b/creator/mayflower index 378ac2f..6619fbe 100755 --- a/creator/mayflower +++ b/creator/mayflower @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ else ;; CDLABEL=*) CDLABEL=\${root#CDLABEL=} - echo "KERNEL==\"hd[a-z]\", BUS==\"ide\", SYSFS{removable}==\"1\", SYSFS{device/media}==\"cdrom\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"root\"" > /etc/udev/rules.d/00-cdlabel.rules + echo "KERNEL==\"hd[a-z]\", BUS==\"ide\", SYSFS{removable}==\"1\", ATTRS{media}==\"cdrom\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"root\"" > /etc/udev/rules.d/00-cdlabel.rules echo "KERNEL==\"sr[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"root\"" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/00-cdlabel.rules echo "KERNEL==\"scd[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"root\"" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/00-cdlabel.rules echo "KERNEL==\"pcd[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"root\"" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/00-cdlabel.rules @@ -599,7 +599,7 @@ if [ -e /sysroot/squashfs.img ] ; then if [ "\$livecd_ram" == "1" ] ; then echo "KERNEL==\"loop118\", SYMLINK+=\"livecd\"" > /sysroot/etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules else - echo "KERNEL==\"hd[a-z]\", BUS==\"ide\", SYSFS{removable}==\"1\", SYSFS{device/media}==\"cdrom\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"livecd\"" > /sysroot/etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules + echo "KERNEL==\"hd[a-z]\", BUS==\"ide\", SYSFS{removable}==\"1\", ATTRS{media}==\"cdrom\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"livecd\"" > /sysroot/etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules echo "KERNEL==\"sr[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"livecd\"" >> /sysroot/etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules echo "KERNEL==\"scd[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"livecd\"" >> /sysroot/etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules echo "KERNEL==\"pcd[0-9]\", PROGRAM=\"/lib/udev/vol_id -l %N\", RESULT==\"\$CDLABEL\", SYMLINK+=\"livecd\"" >> /sysroot/etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules From jdogalt at yahoo.com Fri Feb 23 22:56:16 2007 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:56:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <20070223195707.GA3646@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <572318.35685.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jeremy Katz (katzj at redhat.com) said: > > > First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to > > > livecd-creator (attached). > > > > Hmm... I'm not sure if we really want to do this unconditionally. > And > > given that we later can install from the live CD, is removing the > docs > > something we really want to do? > > It's stuff in /usr/share/doc and info pages. Are either of those > appropriate for a *Desktop* livecd? While I agree that ruthlessly nuking things like /usr/share/doc is a useful way to make your livecd image smaller, it seems like a bad thing to me for the case here. In addition to Jeremy's point, I'll just throw in my anecdotal usage example- firefox file:///usr/share/doc/qemu-bla/index.html Is wanting to read the manual for the software you are using on a livecd something that "doesn't make sense for a *desktop* livecd". I think the answer is no. (but again, having several flags to livecd-creator to prune your target tree in typical ways (e.g. nuking usr/share/doc, or /var/lib/rpm) does seem useful to me for the general livecd generation case). -dmc/jdog ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From jdogalt at yahoo.com Fri Feb 23 23:10:28 2007 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:10:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <572318.35685.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <825706.94928.qm@web56915.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Jane Dogalt wrote: > > --- Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Jeremy Katz (katzj at redhat.com) said: > > > > First, I eliminated docs from the livecd with a patch to > > > > livecd-creator (attached). > > > > > > Hmm... I'm not sure if we really want to do this unconditionally. > > > And > > > given that we later can install from the live CD, is removing the > > docs > > > something we really want to do? > > > > It's stuff in /usr/share/doc and info pages. Are either of those > > appropriate for a *Desktop* livecd? > > While I agree that ruthlessly nuking things like /usr/share/doc is a > useful way to make your livecd image smaller, it seems like a bad > thing > to me for the case here. In addition to Jeremy's point, I'll just > throw in my anecdotal usage example- > > firefox file:///usr/share/doc/qemu-bla/index.html > > Is wanting to read the manual for the software you are using on a > livecd something that "doesn't make sense for a *desktop* livecd". I > think the answer is no. (but again, having several flags to > livecd-creator to prune your target tree in typical ways (e.g. nuking > usr/share/doc, or /var/lib/rpm) does seem useful to me for the > general > livecd generation case). Another idea I've often kicked around, which may have already been thoroughly discounted on other mailinglists is this- Have rpms maintain a notion of- * required files * files that are nice to have * files that might be useful to someone somewhere somtime And when you install the rpm, you specify which of the 3 levels you desire (or maybe rpm looks at how much disk space you have and decides for you). Along with easy tools to 'upgrade' yourself to a different level with yum/rpm after the initial install. I.e. the first level (required) would be with low memory embedded systems in mind. Another scenario where it comes in useful, is you do your install with the full level, then later you run into a time when you are running out of disk space and you need a simple solution, so you just run a command to downgrade every package. just a though... -dmc/jdog ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 01:20:52 2007 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Hikaru Amano) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:20:52 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] how do I build a local repository? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: do you mean mirroring a repository locally?? consider reading my blog posts http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com/2007/01/howto-mirroring-yum-repositories-using.html http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com/2007/01/howto-creating-your-own-yum-rpm.html On 2/24/07, Luke K wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded the f7test1 livecd and it looks great! I think this has the > potential to really help the spread of Fedora. > > On the control panel I could only find an option to select the default > printer, not actually set-up a printer (I'm aware of lpadmin but a GUI would > be nice). > > Maybe the response to my questions below will be that I need to spend much > more time reading about how repositories work, but I'll ask anyhow. > > On the LiveCDHowTo page the following example command is given: > > livecd-creator \ > --repo=c6,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/ > \ > --repo=c6_upd, > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/ > \ > --repo=lcd6,http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/ \ > --repo=e6, > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/ > \ > --package=fedora-livecd-desktop \ > --fslabel=Fedora-6-Zod-LiveCD-1-foo2 > > If I want to use f7, do I replace "/6/" with "/development/", and remove the > extras repo (which doesn't appear to exist for development). Should I also > change "repo=c6" etc. to "repo=c7" or does this not make any difference? > --repo=name,url .. you can put the name with anything you like > I notice if I run the modified command above that RPM header files are > downloaded into > "/var/tmp/livecd-creator/build-tmp...../yum-cache/[lcdr_c6|lcdr_e6|lcdr_lcd6]/headers". > Is there a simpler way to build a local repository rather than using these > to download the required RPM's? I think it'd be good to have the option to > keep downloaded RPM's after a build, and for the next build, only download > any addition ones needed. > > Finally, I see that the RPM's do not sit inside the folder given to > livecd-creator > "http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/os/ > ", but inside the subfolder "Fedora/RPMS/". Is this how I should structure > my local repository? Do I need anything other than RPM's in my local > repository? the hierarchy can be anything you like ... you just need to point the url to the folder that contains the folder named "repodata" because theres where the metadatas for the repo are stored > many thanks > Luke > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > > -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com GPG: http://www.rootshell.be/~kagesens/public-key.asc Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From notting at redhat.com Sat Feb 24 03:16:53 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <572318.35685.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20070223195707.GA3646@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <572318.35685.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070224031653.GA7079@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jane Dogalt (jdogalt at yahoo.com) said: > While I agree that ruthlessly nuking things like /usr/share/doc is a > useful way to make your livecd image smaller, it seems like a bad thing > to me for the case here. In addition to Jeremy's point, I'll just > throw in my anecdotal usage example- > > firefox file:///usr/share/doc/qemu-bla/index.html > > Is wanting to read the manual for the software you are using on a > livecd something that "doesn't make sense for a *desktop* livecd". I > think the answer is no. Maybe I'm weird, but I think the stock target for a 'desktop' livecd probably isn't ever invoking qemu from the command line. The idea is that help & docs for the things we'd ship on a desktop should be part & parcel of the apps themselves, not random things hidden away in /usr/share/doc that someone needs to know to look for. Bill From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 03:47:39 2007 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Hikaru Amano) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:47:39 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Bug? : Failed SElinux fixfiles causes generated liveCD unable to run in readwrite Message-ID: I'm getting this error when creating a liveCD using livecd-tools ======== /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under / *********************matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 17497 elements, 12838/65536 buckets used, longest chain length 5 /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /tmp matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 2 elements, 2/65536 buckets used, longest chain length 1 /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /home matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 1 elements, 1/65536 buckets used, longest chain length 1 /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /mnt/storage /sbin/setfiles: error while labeling files under /mnt/storage ======== and this error causes the generated livecd couldnt run as readwrite ... at first I thought it was caused by something else, but after commenting out this line in livecd-creator , the problem gone .. # os.system("/usr/sbin/chroot %s/install_root /sbin/fixfiles restore"%(self.build_dir)) (yup i know i disabled it altogether) .. but I'm wondering what causes SElinux to fail in the first place .. i didnt enable SElinux in the box that generated the liveCD - is that what causes the error? or is it something else ?... and why does the liveCD fails to run as readwrite if the SElinux labeling failed ??.. -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com GPG: http://www.rootshell.be/~kagesens/public-key.asc Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From notting at redhat.com Sat Feb 24 04:28:09 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:28:09 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Bug? : Failed SElinux fixfiles causes generated liveCD unable to run in readwrite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070224042809.GA7653@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Hikaru Amano (kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com) said: > I'm getting this error when creating a liveCD using livecd-tools > > ======== > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under / > *********************matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: > 17497 elements, 12838/65536 buckets used, longest chain length 5 > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /tmp > matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 2 elements, 2/65536 > buckets used, longest chain length 1 > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /home > matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 1 elements, 1/65536 > buckets used, longest chain length 1 > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /mnt/storage > /sbin/setfiles: error while labeling files under /mnt/storage > ======== The hint there is the errors - AFAICT, setfiles is being run on the wrong root. > (yup i know i disabled it altogether) .. but I'm wondering what causes > SElinux to fail in the first place .. i didnt enable SElinux in the > box that generated the liveCD - is that what causes the error? Very possibly. > or is > it something else ?... and why does the liveCD fails to run as > readwrite if the SElinux labeling failed ??.. The LiveCD tries to use SELinux by default - if labelling is wrong, it's *not* going to work. Bill From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 04:45:02 2007 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Hikaru Amano) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:45:02 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Bug? : Failed SElinux fixfiles causes generated liveCD unable to run in readwrite In-Reply-To: <20070224042809.GA7653@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20070224042809.GA7653@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/24/07, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Hikaru Amano (kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com) said: > > I'm getting this error when creating a liveCD using livecd-tools > > > > ======== > > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under / > > *********************matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: > > 17497 elements, 12838/65536 buckets used, longest chain length 5 > > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /tmp > > matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 2 elements, 2/65536 > > buckets used, longest chain length 1 > > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /home > > matchpathcon_filespec_eval: hash table stats: 1 elements, 1/65536 > > buckets used, longest chain length 1 > > /sbin/setfiles: labeling files under /mnt/storage > > /sbin/setfiles: error while labeling files under /mnt/storage > > ======== > > The hint there is the errors - AFAICT, setfiles is being run on > the wrong root. > I'm using the the livecd-creator script from rpm ... (with the only modification is to the fixfiles line) .. what might possibly be causes it to run on the wrong root?? ... Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 7.6G 5.3G 2.0G 74% / tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm /dev/mapper/LVM-temp 1008M 35M 923M 4% /tmp /dev/mapper/LVM-home 2.0G 671M 1.3G 36% /home /dev/mapper/LVM-storage 26G 2.6G 22G 11% /mnt/storage I ran the script in a folder in /mnt/storage/ partition ... and from what i can understand from livecd-creator code, the fixfiles should be done chrooted in /var/tmp/livecd-creator//install_root/ .. which left me wondering cluelessly .. thanks -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com GPG: http://www.rootshell.be/~kagesens/public-key.asc Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From notting at redhat.com Sat Feb 24 05:29:36 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:29:36 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Bug? : Failed SElinux fixfiles causes generated liveCD unable to run in readwrite In-Reply-To: References: <20070224042809.GA7653@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20070224052936.GA8215@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Hikaru Amano (kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com) said: > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda3 7.6G 5.3G 2.0G 74% / > tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/mapper/LVM-temp 1008M 35M 923M 4% /tmp > /dev/mapper/LVM-home 2.0G 671M 1.3G 36% /home > /dev/mapper/LVM-storage 26G 2.6G 22G 11% /mnt/storage > > I ran the script in a folder in /mnt/storage/ partition ... and from > what i can understand from livecd-creator code, the fixfiles should be > done chrooted in /var/tmp/livecd-creator//install_root/ .. > which left me wondering cluelessly .. It's a bug. fixfiles has... interesting... behavior. Bill From notting at redhat.com Sat Feb 24 06:56:42 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:56:42 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] fix x86_64, SELinux relabeling Message-ID: <20070224065642.GA23294@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> This patch has two parts: 1) call fixfiles with a path If we don't do that, fixfiles will parse /proc/mounts to see what filesystems to try to relabel. In a chroot, that gets a little fishy. 2) redo the find-library-dependencies bit in mayflower The rework removes the hardcoded /lib and /lib/ld-linux.so.2, which allows it to DTRT on x86_64. Tested, x86_64 livecd boots. Bill -------------- next part -------------- diff --git a/creator/livecd-creator b/creator/livecd-creator index c4ca22b..d4ad1b7 100755 --- a/creator/livecd-creator +++ b/creator/livecd-creator @@ -446,7 +447,7 @@ class InstallationTarget: os.unlink("%s/install_root/%s" %(self.build_dir, f)) # finally relabel all files - subprocess.call(["/sbin/fixfiles", "restore"], preexec_fn=run_in_root) + subprocess.call(["/sbin/fixfiles", "restore", "/"], preexec_fn=run_in_root) return True def configureBootloader(self): diff --git a/creator/mayflower b/creator/mayflower index 6619fbe..f9ddbc6 100755 --- a/creator/mayflower +++ b/creator/mayflower @@ -172,19 +172,13 @@ cp /sbin/lsmod sbin # Copy all required shared libs -rm -f libs for i in bin/* sbin/*; do - ldd $i | cut -d ' ' -f3 >> libs -done -LIBS=`cat libs | sort -u |grep -v ^dynamic` -LIBS="/lib/ld-linux.so.2 $LIBS" -cp libs /tmp/libs -rm -f libs -for l in $LIBS; do - if [ "$opt_verbose" == "1" ] ; then - echo "Copying DSO $l" - fi - cp $l lib + ldd $i | sed 's|.*=>||g' | awk '/\// { print $1 }' | while read lib ; do + if [ "$opt_verbose" == "1" ] ; then + echo "Copying DSO $l" + fi + cp --parents $lib . + done done # Write out init From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 07:19:15 2007 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Hikaru Amano) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:19:15 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] fix x86_64, SELinux relabeling In-Reply-To: <20070224065642.GA23294@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20070224065642.GA23294@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 2/24/07, Bill Nottingham wrote: > This patch has two parts: > > 1) call fixfiles with a path > > If we don't do that, fixfiles will parse /proc/mounts to see > what filesystems to try to relabel. In a chroot, that gets a > little fishy. Thanks! From dbodoff at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 16:46:10 2007 From: dbodoff at gmail.com (Dan Bodoff) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:46:10 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Unsubscribe, please... Message-ID: <94e518ad0702240846m33705df2oc5a3c3628d410922@mail.gmail.com> Please, unsubscribe me from any of the Fedora email lists. Thank you -- Dan Bodoff From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 24 16:48:30 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:18:30 +0530 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Unsubscribe, please... In-Reply-To: <94e518ad0702240846m33705df2oc5a3c3628d410922@mail.gmail.com> References: <94e518ad0702240846m33705df2oc5a3c3628d410922@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E06C5E.7060809@fedoraproject.org> Dan Bodoff wrote: > Please, unsubscribe me from any of the Fedora email lists. > > Thank you > Just use the web interface which is present in every single mail that is send to the list to do it. If you havent figured it out, look at https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list Rahul From quimpyfred at yahoo.com Sun Feb 25 06:29:19 2007 From: quimpyfred at yahoo.com (FRED QUIMPY) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:29:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] unsubscribe me plz Message-ID: <355138.64752.qm@web90307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> unsubscribe me plz --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bipin.gautam at gmail.com Sun Feb 25 16:57:57 2007 From: bipin.gautam at gmail.com (Bipin Gautam) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:42:57 +0545 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] getting sound working in live CD Message-ID: <754924960702250857r6a4608abodda0d9fa2c1168e5@mail.gmail.com> hello guys, how do you make the sound working in a striped down LIVE cd. (most preferebly from command line) Is there any bundle of drivers/pacages we should integrate in the live CD build first? please point me to some refrense. Actually, i'm trying to fix sound suooprt for XO ( the redhat os that runs 100$ laptop) what else should i do except trying to fix /etc/modprob.d/sound am i missing something? hoping for suggestions, -bipin From jdogalt at yahoo.com Sun Feb 25 21:22:38 2007 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:22:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <20070224031653.GA7079@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <526851.16665.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jane Dogalt (jdogalt at yahoo.com) said: > > While I agree that ruthlessly nuking things like /usr/share/doc is > a > > useful way to make your livecd image smaller, it seems like a bad > thing > > to me for the case here. In addition to Jeremy's point, I'll just > > throw in my anecdotal usage example- > > > > firefox file:///usr/share/doc/qemu-bla/index.html > > > > Is wanting to read the manual for the software you are using on a > > livecd something that "doesn't make sense for a *desktop* livecd". > I > > think the answer is no. > > Maybe I'm weird, but I think the stock target for a 'desktop' livecd > probably isn't ever invoking qemu from the command line. The idea > is that help & docs for the things we'd ship on a desktop should > be part & parcel of the apps themselves, not random things hidden > away in /usr/share/doc that someone needs to know to look for. > Setting asside my estimations of qemu's usefulness... IMO /usr/share/doc is where manuals are supposed to go. Are you suggesting they be binary encoded in the app for all applications? As an anecdotal developer, I have plans on developing software which keeps its documentation in html form under /usr/share/doc just like qemu, because it just seems like the right packaging style choice. Of course I haven't yet read all the fedora packaging guidelines... -dmc/jdog ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From janina at rednote.net Mon Feb 26 14:44:38 2007 From: janina at rednote.net (Janina Sajka) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:44:38 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Possible OK Button (A11y) Bug In-Reply-To: <1172258264.3646.9.camel@aglarond.local> References: <20070221213608.GD4179@rednote.net> <1172255742.3646.5.camel@aglarond.local> <1172258264.3646.9.camel@aglarond.local> Message-ID: <20070226144438.GF4179@rednote.net> Jeremy Katz writes: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 13:35 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 16:36 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Part way through the boot an error came up about accessibility support. > > > It's enabled by default, the error said, but the AT-SPI module required > > > for a11y support was missing. "Press OK to continue," the message said. > > [snip] > > > 2.) The real problem I encountered may be much more than missing > > > AT-SPI. The OK button was not keyboardable, meaning I could not press > > > enter to dismiss it. I had to get my sighted colleague to put the mouse > > > cursor on it and click it away. > > > > And something obvious that Ray pointed out to me today when I hit it > > again (drats, I was hoping it would just get fixed upstream) is that if > > you move the mouse just to the upper right corner, then the dialog has > > focus and you can press enter. > > > > But I think I might try to see what's causing it here shortly > > Okay, that was ridiculous. There's a check to see if the at registry > starts within n seconds (was 2 seconds in test1, has increased to 5 > now... but that's still not always enough). Put in a quick fix for > test2 and then we'll get a real fix afterwards > Fabulous, Jeremy. Thank you. Janina > Jeremy > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina at a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 16:49:27 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:49:27 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <526851.16665.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20070224031653.GA7079@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <526851.16665.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070226164927.GC24833@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jane Dogalt (jdogalt at yahoo.com) said: > IMO /usr/share/doc is where manuals are supposed to go. Are you > suggesting they be binary encoded in the app for all applications? As > an anecdotal developer, I have plans on developing software which keeps > its documentation in html form under /usr/share/doc just like qemu, > because it just seems like the right packaging style choice. Of course > I haven't yet read all the fedora packaging guidelines... If it's an actual help document that comes up on (or whatever), it should probably go in some portion of %{_datadir}. Bill From jdogalt at yahoo.com Mon Feb 26 17:17:10 2007 From: jdogalt at yahoo.com (Jane Dogalt) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:17:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <20070226164927.GC24833@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <893327.32200.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jane Dogalt (jdogalt at yahoo.com) said: > > IMO /usr/share/doc is where manuals are supposed to go. Are you > > suggesting they be binary encoded in the app for all applications? > As > > an anecdotal developer, I have plans on developing software which > keeps > > its documentation in html form under /usr/share/doc just like qemu, > > because it just seems like the right packaging style choice. Of > course > > I haven't yet read all the fedora packaging guidelines... > > If it's an actual help document that comes up on (or whatever), > it should probably go in some portion of %{_datadir}. I always thought it seemed nice if when you launched your help documents in the app (with F1 or whatever) that that spawned "htmlviewer file:///usr/share/doc/myapp-version/index.html" Thus if that were a packaging guideline, or even unspoken consensus, then people would always have a consistent way to reach the documentation. (and embedded systems developers who were really tight on memory requirements would have an easy way to nuke all the documentation at once). -dmc/jdog ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From katzj at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 17:42:44 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:42:44 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <893327.32200.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <893327.32200.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1172511764.13650.1.camel@erebor.boston.redhat.com> (... we are rapidly becoming off-topic for this list) On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 09:17 -0800, Jane Dogalt wrote: > --- Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Jane Dogalt (jdogalt at yahoo.com) said: > > > IMO /usr/share/doc is where manuals are supposed to go. Are you > > > suggesting they be binary encoded in the app for all applications? > > As > > > an anecdotal developer, I have plans on developing software which > > keeps > > > its documentation in html form under /usr/share/doc just like qemu, > > > because it just seems like the right packaging style choice. Of > > course > > > I haven't yet read all the fedora packaging guidelines... > > > > If it's an actual help document that comes up on (or whatever), > > it should probably go in some portion of %{_datadir}. > > I always thought it seemed nice if when you launched your help > documents in the app (with F1 or whatever) that that spawned > > "htmlviewer file:///usr/share/doc/myapp-version/index.html" > > Thus if that were a packaging guideline, or even unspoken consensus, > then people would always have a consistent way to reach the > documentation. (and embedded systems developers who were really tight > on memory requirements would have an easy way to nuke all the > documentation at once). Really, you don't want to spawn htmlview, you want to integrate with the help view system of your desktop. For GNOME, that means yelp and scrollkeeper. And libgnome provides a pretty easy way to integrate with your help by launching yelp, etc. Jeremy From notting at redhat.com Mon Feb 26 17:53:28 2007 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] patch, manifest changes In-Reply-To: <893327.32200.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20070226164927.GC24833@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <893327.32200.qm@web56910.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070226175328.GA26726@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Jane Dogalt (jdogalt at yahoo.com) said: > I always thought it seemed nice if when you launched your help > documents in the app (with F1 or whatever) that that spawned > > "htmlviewer file:///usr/share/doc/myapp-version/index.html" > > Thus if that were a packaging guideline, or even unspoken consensus, > then people would always have a consistent way to reach the > documentation. (and embedded systems developers who were really tight > on memory requirements would have an easy way to nuke all the > documentation at once). Well, if we ever go to differential updates, %{_datadir}/myapp rather than /usr/share/doc/myapp-%{version} will make a difference in update size. Bill From mustafa4336 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 27 01:03:36 2007 From: mustafa4336 at yahoo.com (Mustafa AL) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:03:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] how i remove myself form fedora mail list. Pease Message-ID: <20070227010336.68149.qmail@web37704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am not happy to get 100 email from fedora. How i remove myself form fedora mail list. Please ? --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Toolbar. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-livecd-list mailing list > Fedora-livecd-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list > The link thats on the bottom of all the list messages can help you : https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list Regards From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 12:32:47 2007 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Hikaru Amano) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:32:47 +0800 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] what mainly required for a lightweight livecd?? Message-ID: I'm stuck ... lol ... I'm trying to create a lightweight liveCD ... but failed miserably due to perhaps poor package selection (and lots of my carelessness) ... anyway .. I want to know what packages are minimum for a distro that have X, a login manager, a desktop , a web browser .. firefox have lots of dependency .. and elinks is too geeky ... the target for this liveCD are old systems with around 192-256MB RAM ... and btw .. do i need to shrink the kernel to reduce memory consumption? -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com GPG: http://www.rootshell.be/~kagesens/public-key.asc Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From ml at deadbabylon.de Tue Feb 27 12:58:46 2007 From: ml at deadbabylon.de (Sebastian Vahl) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:58:46 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Change default keyboard layout in Gnome Message-ID: <20070227135846.156c14d5@localhost.localdomain> Hi. Does anybody know how to change the default keyboard layout when building a livecd? I`ve tried to change the value in 10-fedora-livecd-base.conf but that seems not to work: cat < /etc/sysconfig/keyboard KEYBOARDTYPE="pc" KEYTABLE="de-latin1-nodeadkeys" In Gnome the default layout is still "us" (I think). Is there a gconf string that could do this? I exspected /desktop/gnome/periphals/keyboard/kdb/layouts, but this is normally empty (also on my normal fc6 box with german layout). Or I just don't know how to put the right string in it. Sebastian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kiguin at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 15:06:42 2007 From: kiguin at gmail.com (Luke -) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] how do I build a local repository? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks - the repo name and hierarchy are useful to understand. I didn't want to mirror a whole repository, just those RPMs I needed for my builds. It's ugly, but what I did was run livecd-creator with the outside repos until it had finished downloading the headers into each of the directories /var/tmp/livecd-creator//yum-cache/[lcdr_c6|lcdr_e6|lcdr_lcd6]/headers Then use these headers to get the names (replace .hdr with .rpm) of the RPMs needed, and download them using wget. Then run livecd-creator again, but with the local repository. For subsequent builds I did the same thing but had a script that only downloaded RPMs I didn't already have. Each time you add RPMs to your repository you need to run "createrepo path-to-repository-folder". See http://fedoranews.org/contributors/richard_flude/repo/ Luke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kiguin at gmail.com Tue Feb 27 15:24:34 2007 From: kiguin at gmail.com (Luke -) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:24:34 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] missing command mksquash and others from root PATH? Message-ID: It took me a while to figure this out, so I'll post it in case anyone else has the same problems. My builds were failing with errors saying "mksquash" and "chkconfig" not found (this was with livecd-tools-001-2, with 001-3 it didn't say this but failed anyway). Also, "pwconv" was failing. The following worked for me: once root type PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin export PATH Using livecd-tools-001-3 and the provided configuration RPMs (6.91-2), I got a working livecd. Though there were still some error messages (see below), and I could not mount either a USB drive or a CD with the livecd. I don't know if this was because I'm still missing some further commands. The mount error pop-up said "Cannot mount volume Error org.freedesktop.Hal.PermissionDenied Details Permission denied: Not in active session" The build errors were: warning: libmng-1.0.9-5.1: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 897da07a warning: vpnc-0.3.3-15.fc7: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 1ac70ce6 warning: system-config-network-1.3.96-1.fc6: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4f2a6fd2 cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:sbin_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:insmod_exec_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0': Permission denied cp: cannot set setfscreatecon `system_u:object_r:modules_object_t:s0': Permission denied error: %post(policycoreutils-2.0.2-3.fc7.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 -- snip -- Building an initramfs at /boot/livecd-initramfs.img for kernel 2.6.20-1.2942.fc7 FATAL: Module ide_cd not found. 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I`ve tried to change the value in > 10-fedora-livecd-base.conf but that seems not to work: > > cat < /etc/sysconfig/keyboard > KEYBOARDTYPE="pc" > KEYTABLE="de-latin1-nodeadkeys" > > In Gnome the default layout is still "us" (I think). > > Is there a gconf string that could do this? I > exspected /desktop/gnome/periphals/keyboard/kdb/layouts, but this is > normally empty (also on my normal fc6 box with german layout). Or I > just don't know how to put the right string in it. > > Sebastian Ok. got it: gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t list /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/layouts - -list-type string "[de]" Sebastian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The following command was run: livecd-creator \ --repo=c6,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/ \ --repo=c6di,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/debug/ \ --repo=c6_upd,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/ \ --repo=c6_updi,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/debug/ \ --repo=lcd6,http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/ \ --repo=e6,http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/ \ --package=fedora-livecd-gnome \ --package=kernel-debuginfo \ --package=systemtap \ --package=systemtap-runtime \ --package=elfutils-devel \ --package=elfutils \ --package=gcc \ --fslabel=Fedora-6-Zod-LiveCD-1-stap0 \ --base-on=/home/wcohen/Fedora-6-Zod-LiveCD-1-woot.iso I saw the following error message during the process: Transaction Check Error: package kernel-2.6.19-1.2911.fc6 (which is newer than kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6) is already installed There are multiple kernel rpm in the updates directory. Shouldn't the older one be ignored and no error occur? Or is there something that is forcing it to be pulled in? I am tryed adding the following option to the command line, but got the same result: --exclude-package=kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 The previously created Fedora-6-Zod-LiveCD-1-woot.iso has a 2.6.19-1.2911.fc6 kernel in it. -Will From jasperhartline at adelphia.net Tue Feb 27 23:48:05 2007 From: jasperhartline at adelphia.net (Jasper Hartline) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:48:05 -0600 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Message to Chitlesh about Kadischi Message-ID: <45E4C335.7060905@adelphia.net> Hello. Chitlesh can I remove the GUI bits from kadischi and strip it back down to be CLI so we can work on another front side UI for it? Thanks. J. Hartline From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 28 11:22:30 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:22:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Message to Chitlesh about Kadischi In-Reply-To: <45E4C335.7060905@adelphia.net> References: <45E4C335.7060905@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0702280322k36d62d69g8344e63fa15fd646@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/07, Jasper Hartline wrote: > Hello. > > Chitlesh can I remove the GUI bits from kadischi and strip it back down > to be CLI so we can work on another front side UI for it? Yes, you can :) Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From davidz at redhat.com Wed Feb 28 17:25:28 2007 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:25:28 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Possible OK Button (A11y) Bug In-Reply-To: <20070222004638.GE4179@rednote.net> References: <20070221213608.GD4179@rednote.net> <1172094667.21134.31.camel@aglarond.local> <20070222004638.GE4179@rednote.net> Message-ID: <1172683528.2604.26.camel@zelda.fubar.dk> On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 19:46 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > David has some ideas here involving gdm, the face browser, and a11y in > > gdm. I'll let him expound further > > OK. Understood. GDM is supposed to allow us to do gestures like "hold > Ctrl-S for 5 seconds to start speech," or "Ctrl-M for 5 seconds to start > magnification." This is currently broken on all Linux, I believe, and > only working on Solaris. Actually I looked into this the past week and am happy to report it's working fine for me. It did require both making the themed greeter more a11y-friendly as well as some other fixes. It's tracked here (note the pointers to the various bugs on the GNOME bugzilla) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=229912 and the live CD for Fedora 7 test3 should have this, e.g. we want the live CD to boot into gdm and from there you can enable AT's (and/or select your language) and these will also be started for your desktop session. David From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 28 19:12:43 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Specify full path to utilities Message-ID: <1172689963.30265.1.camel@aglarond.local> Instead of depending on the path to contain /sbin, let's just be pedantic and specify paths for everything. Applies on top of my previous patches. Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: livecd-path.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 2338 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ml at deadbabylon.de Wed Feb 28 20:52:19 2007 From: ml at deadbabylon.de (Sebastian Vahl) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:52:19 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] livecd-tools, rawhide and no /dev/root Message-ID: <20070228215219.0abdbe6c@localhost.localdomain> Hi. Yesterday I've started to create a live-cd with the livecd-tools based on rawhide. I encountered the same problem with f7test1-live: no /dev/root: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=227734 In vmware and qemu the cd boots fine but show some errors: Both found a fault with a deprecated device link in 00-cdlabel.rules and 00-livecd.rules: http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=erroryy2.png http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=error1yv0.png When I saved /etc/udev/rules.d/00-livecd.rules to my fc6 and f7 boxes, put the cd into the cd-drive and restart udev with "/sbin/udev_start/" the link /dev/livecd was correctly created. I've also tried to insert some modules into the initramfs (pata_via, ata_generic) but this don't help. I've tried two ways: 1. Added them to /usr/bin/livecd-creator: mayflowerconf.write('MODULES+="cdrom pata_via ata_generic ide-cd ahci loop dm_snapshot squashfs ext3 ehci_hcd uhci_hcd ohci_hcd usb_storage sd_mod sr_mod usbhid ata_piix"\n') 2. Extracted the content of livecd-initramfs.img, copied the modules into the directory lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2947.fc7, recreated the initramfs and mastered the cd. But still the only modules loaded before the error are: ehci_hcd and uhci_hcd. On my normal rawhide installation an "lsmod | grep ata" shows: pata_via 15557 7 ata_generic 11973 0 libata 112741 2 pata_via,ata_generic scsi_mod 140717 4 sr_mod,sg,libata,sd_mod My question here is: Where is the error? :) I assume it is in the creation of the initramfs in correlation with libata (I have no sata). But I don't know a way to create a working one. Is there a newer version of the livecd-tools? I still use this one: http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/livecd-tools-001-1.i386.rpm And livecds based on fc6 works fine. Sebastian My hardware: http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/show?UUID=e689326b-2c7d-4fbc-969e-f6293086ab97 http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/show?UUID=2e386ff4-8c36-4017-bae0-deab54df7e77 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From katzj at redhat.com Wed Feb 28 20:57:08 2007 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] livecd-tools, rawhide and no /dev/root In-Reply-To: <20070228215219.0abdbe6c@localhost.localdomain> References: <20070228215219.0abdbe6c@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1172696228.30265.8.camel@aglarond.local> On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 21:52 +0100, Sebastian Vahl wrote: > In vmware and qemu the cd boots fine but show some errors: Both found a > fault with a deprecated device link in 00-cdlabel.rules and > 00-livecd.rules: These are just deprecation warnings -- for now, the rules work, they just spew a warning. Bill sent a patch last week-ish to fix them up. > My question here is: Where is the error? :) > I assume it is in the creation of the initramfs in correlation with > libata (I have no sata). But I don't know a way to create a working one. This is highly probable. And with the test1 live CD, only some of the pata bits worked due to a combination of spaces not being in the right place and some kernel wonkiness. > Is there a newer version of the livecd-tools? I still use this one: > http://people.redhat.com/davidz/livecd/i386/livecd-tools-001-1.i386.rpm > And livecds based on fc6 works fine. I've got a set of changes which works for the little bit of pata hardware that I was able to find relatively quickly around the office. The patches and config packages that I used for the test2 live CD are at http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/live/f7test2/. And there's a README at http://people.redhat.com/~katzj/live/f7test2/README along the same lines as the one davidz posted with the FC6 live CD. It's at least worth checking to see if that solves things for you before going any further on trying to track things down. Jeremy