[Fedora-livecd-list] one-livecd-per-child?

Greg Dekoenigsberg gdk at redhat.com
Thu Jan 11 19:09:05 UTC 2007


There are literally endless variations on this theme -- especially in the 
education space.  If Pilgrim can satisfy them, it will be very successful 
indeed.

--g

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Andy Gospodarek wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:40:04AM -0800, Jane Dogalt wrote:
>> Here is an idea I had which may be similar to other projects
>> (lfs,olpc), but interests me as it relates specifically to
>> fedora-livecds.
>>
>> Imagine a spin/strain/variant of a fedora livecd, which had the
>> following properties-
>>
>> ###
>> a) boots up into firefox displaying a "howto program computers" page.
>>
>> b) this howto presents a simple step by step procedure for creating a
>> simple text file with a favorite phrase in it (e.g. 'hello world').
>> Note
>> these steps include alt-tab or desktop-switching to-and-fro the howto
>> web browser page.
>>
>> c) the howto then describes the steps (ideally one-button simple) to
>> create and test(virtual boot) and burn a new livecd which only differs
>> from the current one by displaying a splash screen with monster
>> letters, displaying the phrase created in the text file from (b), until
>> the user hits any key, at which point the splash screen disappears, and
>> things are otherwise normal (i.e. identical to the original livecd
>> environment)
>> ###
>>
>> basically what I am getting at is how to go about educating
>> children(/adults) about programming.  Clearly the method I and others
>> went through (using logo on an atari, etc...) is not going to be the
>> way of teaching programming in the future.
>>
>> What I like about the above self-reproducing-but-modified livecd
>> scenario, is that it is a very idealized complete system.  I.e. "the
>> program" are these bits on the cd.  As the programmer, you make a new
>> cd/program with a slight difference, and now the behavior is different
>> (big hello world splash screen).
>>
>>> From there, I would add longer tutorials, starting with a hello world c
>> program (both as terminal under gnome-terminal, and graphical with some
>> educationally simple gui library).  And then some simple html web page
>> programming.
>>
>> I imagine of course that this sort of thing may have already been
>> discussed WRT OLPC.  I've read a bit on LWN and slashdot, but haven't
>> really looked at it's development.  But it seems like they are
>> targeting that type of education with the whole view source thing.  I
>> wonder, will the firmware on OLPC be 'educationally reflashable' like
>> so?  Maybe it would be ok, if there was an effectively irreplacable
>> boot option to restore the original firmware.
>>
>> anything missing or wrong with this picture?
>>
>> (of course I eventually want a full local copy of the
>> wiki-university-graduate-computer-engineering-video-lecture-series
>> included on the live-blu-ray as well...)
>>
>> -dmc/jdog
>>
>
> I've had similar thoughts centered around making a bootable CD that has
> all the tools necessary to start doing C/C++ development.  The students
> could have usb keys for their active projects so the PC's don't need any
> storage and they also don't need to be maintained by anyone.  This would
> also allow the kids to take the CD's home and use them on their parent's
> computers without having to install linux -- just reboot them with the
> liveCD when you want to do school work and take it out and reboot again
> when you are done.
>
>
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