[Fedora-livecd-list] liveinst conflicts with anaconda

[Will Woods]

On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 03:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Friday 23 March 2007 17:29:37 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> It was in the Fedora 7 Test 2 live cd. I got it when I installed it to
> >> my hard disk. Doing a yum update today results in a conflict. Why should
> >> a end user run into this?
> > 
> > Trying to expect sane paths from anything less then Test3 is pretty 
> > unreasonable.
> 
> It is not unreasonable at all. The liveinst package should have been on 
> the officially repositories. The review and the process was bypassed to 
> get test 2 on time which is fine but let's not use that as a excuse not 
> to add a simple obsolete to Anaconda to ensure that users can update 
> properly. We should strive to provide sane updates paths from every 
> release to every release regardless of whether it is a test or not. It 
> might not be possible in some corner cases which this is not. Our end 
> users and testers deserve more respect for their time.

Or maybe the developers deserve more of your respect for their time?

The end users will never see this; the testers know to expect this sort
of thing. Anyone who expects upgrades between experimental test releases
to work flawlessly has got their expectations seriously out of whack.

Here's the deal: We've committed to do the best we can to ensure that
upgrades between major releases work and that Test3 (or, in this case,
Test4)->final upgrades will work. Everything beyond that is
best-effort. 

In my opinion this can be handled just fine by a Test3 release note.

-w
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