[Fedora-livecd-list] Portuguese pt_PT spins

[Pedro Silva]

Ter, 2008-06-03 às 14:25 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen escreveu:
> Pedro Silva wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I pulled the latest .ks through git and changed the files accordingly to
> > create pt_PT localized spins of fedora.
> > 
> > Attached are the following spins:
> > 
> > - Electronic Lab
> > - KDE
> > - XFCE
> > - Developer
> > - Games
> > 
> > Just has Jeroen said, on gnome based livecds, I added the %post hack for
> > the xorg.conf keyboard stuff. I think these are electronic-lab,
> > developer and games. 
> > 
> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> I've added the kickstarts to the kickstart pool, thanks
> 
> > Also regarding localized versions of software, does @portguese-support
> > flag pull localized dependecies of packages? Although I can't find it
> > now, I think childsplay used to have a childsplay-sounds-pt package. Is
> > this pulled by @portuguese-support flag?
> > 
> 
> The @*-support groups have conditional requirements. For example, if 
> openoffice.org is in the package set, @*-support will pull in the 
> appropriate openoffice.org-langpack.

I'm sorry, the package I was trying to refer to is gcompris-sounds-pt.
So this would be pulled, great!

> > One more thing I remembered, Portugal has two timezones (Lisboa/Mainland
> > and Açores Islands), does it make sense to create another spin to cover
> > both timezones? What about countries with multiple timezones?
> > 
> 
> This is a very good question, which I haven't thought about (yet). 
> Localized spins in this sense is hard. We'd want to prevent having a 
> million kickstarts just for each and every combination of keyboard, 
> timezone, and possibly dialect, and so forth, just to not confuse people 
> any more then we need to. Creating a localized spin should just be as 
> easy as possible. I can imagine we would either;
> 
> 1) provide a little commentary section in the localized kickstart where 
> one timezone is the default, but another timezone entry is commented out 
> so people can easily enable it, or
> 
> 2) point people to loading the kickstart in system-config-kickstart 
> letting them adjust (all) settings and save the changes, or
> 
> 3) having additional options to livecd-tools / revisor to override what 
> is in the supplied kickstart.

IMHO, every point you made is valid. If I were hand editing a ks file,
comments always help. I rarelly use s-c-kickstart, but it would help a
lot in changing little things/options. I don't know why but revisor
never really worked for me, I forgot about it since F7.

I guess it really depends on the user's favorite tool. Maybe it makes
sense to implement all three points, I don't know.

But I have to agree with you, if we hit a country that has half dozen
timezones, four keyboard sets and if we multiply it by the number of
spins, there will be a lot of files to choose from. This would confuse
the user trying to build a spin for sure.

Best regards,

-- 
Pedro Silva
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