Maintainers must be reachable by email

seth vidal skvidal at phy.duke.edu
Tue Aug 30 15:06:27 UTC 2005


On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 08:59 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:
> On 8/30/05, Tom Lane <tgl at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Warren Togami <wtogami at redhat.com> writes:
> > > Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > >> A fellow Fedora Extras contributor sends a private mail, probably to be
> > >> treated confidentially, to another contributor. But the mail is rejected
> > >> automatically due to rigorous or misconfigured SPAM filtering, IP
> > >> blacklists or SPF problems. ...
> > 
> > > If such a contributor is using CVS and is otherwise uncontactable, we
> > > could easily get their attention by disabling their CVS access
> > > temporarily.  Such contributors are not very communicative and thus
> > > would not see this note.
> > 
> > I think you are oversimplifying this greatly.  There are lots of people,
> > me for instance, for whom the choice is either "spam filtering with
> > teeth" or "abandon email, because you will never manage to find the
> > real mail among the spam".  I routinely reject several thousand junk
> > messages per day using a combination of SMTP and procmail filtering.
> > I really don't have a choice whether to filter (and I already spend
> > much more time than I could wish tuning and maintaining the filters).
> > 
> > This discussion seems to be headed in a direction fairly close to
> > forbidding contributors from using spam filtering.  That's not a recipe
> > for improving communication; that's a recipe for losing contributors.
> > 
> > I don't have a better solution I'm afraid, but I wonder whether this
> > problem isn't being overblown.  As long as you can contact someone via
> > the mailing lists, you don't have a serious communication problem.
> > Requiring contributors to keep an eye on certain specified lists
> > doesn't seem unreasonable.
> 
> 
> Hmmm, one solution would be to  set up 'vanity' accounts on a server
> that people who only want email from the build systems and such. 
> However this is higher burden on the fedora systems administration
> staff in yet another machine to maintain.
> 
> I was going to say that maintainers/contributers need to make sure
> that they have some account that is freely available to people to send
> email to .. but I hate agreeing with David on things :)

well there are already the @fedoraproject.org aliases.

there are a couple of us with write access to add those.

-sv





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