rawhide/fc4 extras builds

[seth vidal]

>Chaos at several fronts: a sudden mass-rebuild from a non-ready CVS for
>pre-extras,


that was over a month ago and extras actually looks pretty good to me,
right now. 


> not
>every packager has CVS access, rebuilds without build requests (e.g. PPC
>builds of xv or unreviewed packages). I think coordination could be better.


How would you improve coordination w/o slowing things to a snails pace?


your list sound less like 'chaos' and more like 'everything isn't
perfect'




>And that means more chaos, because packages have build requirements
>and hence depend on other packages to be ready, too.


no! packages have build requirements?!?! All this time I thought they
were magically getting resolved. Well I'll be damned.
Cmon Michael, I know this - but you should know that rawhide is not a
stable place all the time and I wouldn't expect or demand that the
'devel' branch of fedora extras be stable either.



>No, it doesn't. Sorry. It doesn't answer my earlier questions. It doesn't
>answer when and whether to mass-rebuild.


Well I think the answer, if you want to take my direction is this:

1. you get YOUR packages together.
2. we all encourage the other packagers to do the same for theirs
3. We set a bright deadline for devel tree release of extras and ask the
packagers to stick to it.
  - I think maybe we should have that bright line be one week before the
fc4t1 release - essentially slushy-freeze extras for 'devel' at the same
time core freezes.
4. we figure out what's broken and fix it in that week, then release
on-around the same time.

5. wash-rinse-repeat for fc4t2, t3 and final.

Then we're ready to go!

in the meantime I'm working on the build system stuff (mach2 + yum) so
hopefully I'll have something for you use to test out your builds and
it'll be a more controlled environment that you've been desiring.

I'd personally love to get a cvs makefile options of 'make mach-$arch',
though it might just be simplest to do:
 make srpm; mach rebuild $package.src.rpm 

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