Package EVR problems in FC+FE 2006-12-02

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 13:37 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 06:08:06AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > > > > > FWIW the smart build fails on KDE not liking the newest
> > > > > > > autoconf:
> > > > 
> > > > This a stupid and broken script in smart's source
> > > > (contrib/ksmarttray/admin/cvs.sh).
> > > > 
> > > > Either fix this script, kickass upstream to fix it or abandon
> > > > ksmarttray.
> > > 
> > > This script is an old copy from kde's sdk, it's no invention from
> > > smart.
> > > 
> > > In fact this shows that pregenerating files (in this case by
> > > copying a static version over) can be more harmful than generating
> > > in %build.
> > 
> > BS. 
> 
> Please Ralf, you're getting off track with your choice of language,
> why?
Because your apparent lack of understanding and stubbornness doesn't
leave me any alternative.

> > This freaking script is trying to dynamically generate a auto*
> > *source* files and badly stumbles over its feet, because
> > 
> > a) its buggy (The version checks are completely non-functional)
> > b) they are abusing the autotools
> 
> Great, this is a script from kdesdk, so try complaining to
> upstream, e.g. kde developers. smart is just a consumer.
So what?

This stuff is broken in _smart_, that's the topic we are taking about.

Whether it's smart maintainers or Kde maintainer or you who is to blame
doesn't matter.

> > C'mon, you really should know better.
> 
> So could be said of you. I'd prefer arguments instead of hand waving,
> though. The issue stands: If you patch master and generated files and
> their dependency is cast in always enabled Makefile rules you lose.
> 
> > > That will redefine your perception But foremost, please stop using words like "nonsense", "BS" and the
> like, let's keep it attribute-free, OK?
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainersof "nonsense" ;)
> 
> > Nope, you are spreading FUD.
> 
> Well, have it as you like. People that have done packaging which
> involved patching configure and configure.ac will know that this is
> reality and no FUD at all.
Yes, packaging monkeys. Programmers should know what they are doing.

Embarrassed,
	Ralf