dist-hg proof-of-concept ready for use

[Havoc Pennington]

Carl Worth wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:22:01 -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote:
>> The hangup for me remains the git UI, especially since I'm using Eclipse
>> a lot and would lose the GUI stuff, but also the git command line and
>> web frontends are pretty strange. But, this is probably not such an
>> issue for Fedora as it is for us desktop/web-oriented developers... ;-)
> 
> Havoc, I don't follow your argument at all. If Eclipse is the
> important UI, then how could the git command-line be relevant at all?
> 

I'm just talking about my personal preference.

I use both command line and Eclipse pretty often. Eclipse is not "the 
important UI" for Fedora I'm quite sure (at least right now - maybe with 
the SRPM plugin it is), but it's one I use since I write a lot of Java 
lately. But I also use Emacs for C, and use the terminal a good bit.

To me the git docs are a sea of implementation details and terminology 
often at some kind of strange lower level than I want to know about.[1]

I know some people (e.g. obviously Keith and Linus) greatly enjoy 
understanding this level, and more power to them ;-)

I just hope before I get stuck using git for something someone will 
figure out how to bury some of this stuff a bit more.

Let's put it this way: honestly I don't care how cool the git 
implementation is, if I have to _know_ what the implementation is. If I 
wanted to know, I would write my own version control system like 
everyone else ;-)

Havoc

[1] I'm not going to be productive and try to design something 
better/ideal, since it would take weeks, but if you "man git" there's a 
"Plumbing" section and a "Porcelain" section. As a start, I'd like to 
live in a world where "Plumbing" was somewhere I never saw it.
Right now the terminology and goo from that layer leaks out everywhere, 
whether it's in the docs, in the output of git-<Tab>, in status 
messages, or in UIs that show me huge hex numbers and say things like 
"blob" when they mean "file." svn presumably also has "plumbing" but I 
don't know about it and am happy not to.

I'm skipping superficial UI complaints like "who the hell uses Tk in 
2006?" ;-)