yum RFE

Greg DeKoenigsberg gdk at redhat.com
Wed Oct 18 17:15:51 UTC 2006


I am reluctantly in Mr. Stone's camp here.

Reluctantly, because the strident nature of the evolution of this thread 
has obscured what I find to be a real issue: the question of what is and 
isn't "blessed" in the universe of Fedora packages.

There are *a lot* of people don't quite understand how packages work -- 
and they certainly don't understand the ramifications of using a repo that 
overwrites packages from Core.

I don't think it's unreasonable to package this plugin.  I don't even 
think it's unreasonable to enable it by default; I certainly think it's a 
potentially worthwhile discussion.

Is it a sensible compromise to include this plug-in by default for now?

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Christopher Stone wrote:

> On 10/18/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:14, Christopher Stone wrote:
> > > The reason it was closed was because Seth totally misunderstood what
> > > the RFE was trying to accomplish. Set thought that we were trying to
> > > make it impossible or extremely difficult for 3rd parth repos. to
> > > override base packages when the opposite is true. We want to make it
> > > easy for them to do this, but we want the user to have to take an
> > > extra step in order to enable them to do this. And this extra step
> > > should warn the user about the consequences of enabling this.
> > >
> > > We are *trying* to protect unknowning and unsuspecting users here.
> >
> > Unknowing and unsuspecting users will become frightening and confused when the
> > repo they added doesn't work like the rest of the repos they have.
> 
> I think this is better than some poor user who is forced to remove all
> packages from a certain repository by hand after their system becomes
> messed up.
> 
> There was a poor unfortunate user on #fedora just yesterday who ran
> into this problem and was forced to uninstall all 3rd party repo
> packages which due to dependencies resulted in uninstalling and
> reinstalling dozens of packages.  This is *much* more freightening and
> confusing to unsuspecting users if you ask me.
> 
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