yum RFE
Garrick Staples
garrick at usc.edu
Wed Oct 18 18:39:34 UTC 2006
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:16:22PM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg alleged:
>
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Jesse Keating wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 13:06, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > You mean when it overwrites base packages and breaks stuff ?
> >
> > Then should setup road blocks to using rpm? To adding repos at all? To
> > writing as root? The user had taken the step to add something which did NOT
> > come with his/her installation. Adding a NON "supported" repo. From that
> > point on, they're in the "on your own" land, and I'm perfectly happy with
> > their system getting eaten alive. There is a REASON we don't include those
> > repos. Setting up more (easily removable for those that know) roadblocks
> > will do nothing more than confuse the user even more, and create more
> > hostility toward the 3rd party packagers.
>
> Jesse, I just don't think it's that simple.
>
> It's easy for us to state, as policy, that "if you wander off the path,
> Fedora will eat your babies."
>
> But *a lot* of people still take that risk when they don't understand the
> risks they're taking. At all.
>
> I'm certainly not in favor of adding lots of arbitrary complexity to
> prevent people from using 3rd party repos. But here's the thing: it's
> also *entirely* possible to use 3rd party repos that don't overwrite core.
> Over time, there may be many more of these. Why not enable the
> functionality that tells users, one last time:
>
> "The operation you're about to perform will replace a core package. This
> could make it more difficult to maintain your system. If you're *sure*
> you want to do this, edit foo and change bar to baz."
>
> I believe that could help users -- users that are currently struggling to
> understand the trade-offs between using straight Fedora and Fedora+3rd
> parties. But I don't believe it does anything to damage the reputations
> of 3rd party packagers.
Not that anyone listens to me, but I'd like to go on record to say that
I think this general idea is terrific. Not only for the newbs, but also
as a useful tool for the experts (so you don't have to go double
checking each new thing).
--
Garrick Staples, Linux/HPCC Administrator
University of Southern California
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