Fedora and Games (Was YUM RFE)
Hans de Goede
j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl
Wed Oct 18 19:56:22 UTC 2006
Karen Pease wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 October 2006 01:16 pm, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
>> Jesse, I just don't think it's that simple.
>>
>> It's easy for us to state, as policy, that "if you wander off the path,
>> Fedora will eat your babies."
>>
>> But *a lot* of people still take that risk when they don't understand the
>> risks they're taking. At all.
>
> But the obvious issue is: why do people take that risk? It's simple: much of
> what people want doesn't come with Fedora.
>
> Example: Lets look in Amusements/Games. I have my system set up to have about
> a half dozen repos in addition to Fedora. Only perhaps a fifth of the games
> listed are from Fedora. Where's Monsterz? Where's Nazghul? Where's
> Crack-attack? Tong? Frozen-bubble? Pingus? Trackballs? Liquidwar? I can
> keep going.
>
As a very active Fedora Extras Games SIG member let me cut in here:
First: Crack-attack, Frozen-bubble, Pingus and Trackballs are all in FE
and all at there latest version (I maintain all 4 of them). Also a quick
yum list delivers:
monsterz.i386 0.7.0-7.fc6 extras-developme
nazghul.i386 0.5.4-2.fc6 extras-developme
tong.i386 1.0-7.fc6 extras-developme
Second about the others if they meet the FE license demands, why haven't
you filed an RFE, please add any OSS games you want here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/WishList
and/or here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Games
I even take the trouble to talk to upstream to get license conditions
changed if nescesarry, we for example have tremulous in FE because I
managed to find out that the troublesome shaderlab Textures where
relicensed on Debian requests to a suitable license. Unfortunately this
wasn't documented anywhere and Debian still has tremulous in non-free
(but thats because they believe that any of the Creative Commons
licenses is non-free, not only the non commercial ones).
And tremulous is just one example, I have also managed to get worminator
(try it) released under GPL and ported it to Linux (from win32), and so
I could go on and on.
If you like monsters try crystal-stacker, another game for which I
managed to get the license ammended to make it OSS, and then ported to
Linux.
So in short if you want more games:
1) let us know which ones
2) come and join the Games SIG and package a few yourself
3) Ask upstream politely to amend their license, you will be surprised
how often they will comply when asked politely and you properly
explain things.
Thanks & Regards,
Hans
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