Pushing updates for Fedora 7

Denis Leroy denis at poolshark.org
Fri Jun 1 17:32:08 UTC 2007


Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 01.06.2007 14:43, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 14:24 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> 1) Can it cause regressions for existing users? -> No
>> It can cause new problems.
> 
> +1
> 
>>> 2) Will it get installed automatically by the relative few people who have 
>>> updates -testing enabled, and thus see any kind of testing (atleast if its 
>>> installable)? -> No
>> You're making an assumption that there are few people that enable
>> updates-testing.
> 
> /me has it enabled on nearly all of his machines and that way prevented
> at least once or twice in the past that bad updates hit updates-proper

I have updates-testing set up too, but remember it won't install new 
packages, only update existing ones. Is anyone going to install all 
*new* packages that hit updates-testing automatically ?


>>> 3) Is there any added value in a new package first sitting for a few days in 
>>> testing -> No (because of 2)
>> Yes.  The QA team can at least install from there and see if it starts.
> 
> +1 -- and from what I've heard it looks to me that the new QA stuff
> might make it quite easy to just push some kind of button to say "there
> is a problem, please don't push"

My biggest question about the whole QA stuff is: while some packages are 
nice desktop applications with menu entries, many (most?) new packages 
are going to be somewhat obscure libraries, plugins, perl/py modules, 
i.e. things that are difficult to test. For example, if i push a new 
version of libgnomeuimm26 to updates-testing, will the QA folks know 
that the only way to test that is to actually test gcdmaster, workrave, 
referencer and wp_tray ?




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