general mailing list reorganization? (was Re: RFC: fedora-devel-announce)

[Mike McGrath]

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 06.06.2007 23:01, Brian Pepple wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 15:04 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
>>     
>>> Christopher Blizzard wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 14:05 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> *shrug* I'll give this a +1.  Although if discussion goes to
>>>>> 'fedora-devel' 
>>>>> one wonders what the usefulness of fedora-maintainers will start to
>>>>> be?
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Yeah, I don't get this.  fedora-maintainers is pretty useful - high
>>>> signal, low crap.  The proper reaction to things like this is almost
>>>> never _another_ mailing list.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> It is pretty useful if you have the time to follow all the posts and 
>>> read everything.  It is wrong-minded however to expect everyone with 
>>> lesser commitments to be able to read and follow everything on a busy 
>>> discussion list.  For them, they could opt to follow minimally 
>>> fedora-devel-announce.
>>>
>>> I'm half-decided on if fedora-devel-announce then kill 
>>> fedora-maintainers.  fedora-maintainers has the benefit of having a 
>>> significantly better signal to noise ratio than fedora-devel-list. 
>>> There is however a detriment to the redundancy.
>>>
>>> If folks were willing to be more MILITANT AND CONSISTENT in enforcing 
>>> the "devel only" rules for fedora-devel-list I might be happier about 
>>> killing fedora-maintainers.  But consistent enforcement has proven to be 
>>> impossible to maintain in the past.
>>>
>>> We should talk about this issues in tomorrow's FESCO meeting.
>>>       
>> I've added it to the schedule.
>>     
>
> Killing fedora-maintainers is part of the plan for the mailing list
> reorganization the Board put on my plate months ago. The hardware for
> that was promised for mid April. :-( Mike, any update when something
> really happens?
>
>   
No hardware was actually promised for this particular project and its 
still a very low priority to the infrastructure team (AFAIK).   We have 
a current working solution in place right now for this.  We did get the 
new netapp setup but we are still waiting on a new disktray for it.  
Also when you're talking about the plan, can you send me a link to it?  
It will better help me plan A) how important this is to ensure the 
continuance of Fedora and B) what we need to do to get it done.


    -Mike