The road to the merge

[Josh Boyer]

On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 02:38 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:31:51PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 21:40 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:30:15PM -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > > > [...] it is pretty clear that there is not a small amount of work to
> > > > be done, and I'd really rather not interrupt the mad dash to get
> > > > things in before the Test3 freeze, since that is the Feature Freeze
> > > > as well. [...]
> > > 
> > > > Basically I want to give people a status update on where things are going, and 
> > > > what work still needs to be done, and what our expectations are.  I welcome 
> > > > input around when and how to flip the switch and whether or not dropping 
> > > > this "feature" in after the feature freeze is acceptable.
> > > 
> > > I'd argue that this feature is a meta-feature (e.g. it should not
> > > really be observable when someone grabs the final product what kind of
> > > buildsystem was used), so perhaps the feature-freeze does not really
> > > apply to this part. So, I think it's acceptable to add it after test3.
> > 
> > Yes and no.  With a merged collection of packages (which can't happen
> > before koji is in place),
> 
> Why not? (Just curious, no disbelieve :)

Technically it probably could happen before koji was in place if
everything was just moved to Extras CVS and plague was used.  But I
believe koji provides some additional function that Jesse and Rel-Eng
need to actually do freezes and composes.  Particularly, tagging of
packages to a collection.

> 
> > you could potentially start enabling some features in what were Core
> > packages that previously couldn't be done because the libs (or
> > whatever) resided in what was Extras.
> 
> It would probably mean that no BR from premerge-extras to
> premerge-core will be allowed until then, which would be sad, but
> probably bearable.

Sure.

> 
> What would you suggest otherwise as an alternative? Slip test3? No
> feature freeze until test4?

I don't have another suggestion and I think Jesse's and your's seem
fine.  I was just saying it wasn't exactly a meta-feature :).

josh