Broken upgrade paths in F7
Josh Boyer
jwboyer at jdub.homelinux.org
Tue May 15 14:12:06 UTC 2007
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 15:56 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > I really don't have a problem in orphaning these packages, because my
> > > interest in continuing to struggle with packages in Fedora drops by the
> > > minute.
> >
> > If you were to do so, that would be quite sad.
>
> You still have your chances to change your workflow to something
> sane, ... or at least to document it.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelFreezePolicy
and
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoshBoyer/MergeHOWTO
Those have been sent out multiple times.
> Right now koji doesn't have any usable documentation nor is the workflow
You keep saying that, but what documentation are you looking for? From
a maintainers standpoint, all you need to do is 'make build' and follow
the DevelFreezePolicy.
> you are referring to documented anywhere - Not even your contained an
> URL to this documentation.
We've sent the above URLs multiple times to this list.
> I.e. I consider all these EVR breakages rel-eng's fault and it to be
> their job to handle them - period.
If that is your final answer, we will have to come up with some way of
dealing with those packages. Rahul is asking for them to be pulled from
the repositories. I had hoped to avoid things like that since it
doesn't really fix anything.
Are you effectively orphaning your packages?
> > And no, rel-eng cannot just tag them for you. We need some kind of
> > input from the package maintainer as to whether they're safe to enable
> > and make sure they don't break dependencies, etc.
> ... because your work-flow is broken.
Our lack of knowledge about every package that exists has little to do
with workflow.
> You guys should have branched rawhide before the freeze (BTW: you guy
That very well could be. But the procedure would have still been the
same.
> now also seem to have inconsistencies been rawhide and the buildsystem.
> Yesterday, I was facing packages which built in rawhide but failed in
> the buildsystem).
Which and how did they fail?
josh
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