Broken upgrade paths in F7

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org
Tue May 15 18:21:00 UTC 2007


Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 23:25 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 23:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>> As such I think Rahul is shooting way over the top with
>>>>> pulling them from the repo, as that creates even more trouble for users.
>>>> Package is broken. Maintainer refuses to fix it. Others are not 
>>>> interested. Pulling the packages is the right way to go since they are 
>>>> implicitly orphaned packages. What alternative are you suggesting?
>>> That's not quite true in this case.  The package isn't broken.  The tag
>>> on which it sits is.  Just clarifying that.
>> Purely from the end user perspective what difference does it make? I 
> 
> None.  But then again, neither does your suggestion of pulling the
> packages out of the repo :).

It does make a pretty big difference in the overall quality of the 
repository. I can solidly claim that every single package in the release 
has a good update path. Quality and robustness of the repository and 
updates is one of the biggest problems we need to tackle. I see people 
suggesting that pulling off packages is over the top but I dont see 
anyone suggesting any other alternative. Does anyone want to knowingly 
put packages into the release with fundamental issues like this?

There is a usability issue in that packages being dropped are not 
immediately visible to end users. There are other potential solutions or 
that.  I have already suggested before to have a live upgrade 
tool/Anaconda module which checks for packages that does not have a 
proper update path (Packages that orphaned/pulled off the repository for 
any other reasons such as licensing, improperly configured third party 
repository packages ,custom packages etc) and list them with any 
possible solutions.

Rahul




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