Deep Freeze coming for Fedora 7 (and cvs branching coming too)

Panu Matilainen pmatilai at laiskiainen.org
Wed May 16 09:32:49 UTC 2007


On Wed, 16 May 2007, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

> On 5/15/07, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net> wrote:
>> BTW why can't the update message be the last changelog entry by default?
>> I'd rather require people to write meaningful changelogs than forcing
>> them to pipe the info in a different system.
>
> +1, i think this is a sane way to minimize perceived burden while
> still getting useful information into update notification mechanisms.
> Hell, unless there is some pretty stellar guidance for notification
> texts that convinces us otherwise, I expect the general practice will
> be to cut and paste of the changelog text...because its the easiest
> way to satisfy a notification text requirement.  We already sort of
> have a mechanism to help us cut and pass changlogs for cvs commit
> messages.
>
> If we make the last changelog entry the default update message, which
> can be overwritten by a more expansive message on a case by case
> basis, that would suit me just fine.

Sounds like a plan to me. Encouraging good changelog entries is, well, 
good anyway - look at the quality of FC changelogs before and after the 
daily rawhide-changes mails. In some cases (eg if the update requires user 
actions etc) further commentary not really suitable to changelog notation 
style might be needed but rpm changelog since last published package (or 
even just the latest entry) would make a nice default. And one that 
shouldn't be too troublesome for anybody since the message has already 
been written once...

> -jef"just need to figure out how to make update notification texts
> look pretty in the output of a yum cmdline call"spaleta

The changelog entries are easy, everybody likes rpm --changelog style 
output, no? :) OTOH for that there already is yum-changelog plugin, update 
notifications are a little different.

 	- Panu -




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